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Lets just call this a hypothetical...Shall We?

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posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 02:28 PM
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Lets assume that you or a unified force of focused, well armed patriots were to make a push on the establishment, what would your main objectives be, and what would you consider the greatest cherry pickins to unravel their strengths?

what would you go after that would make a difference?

now remember this is all hypothetical




posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 02:29 PM
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How big is the force?

Depending on the man power controls what some one could do
edit on 8-12-2010 by AdAbsurdum because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 02:30 PM
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My priority would be to get my camera, take a bunch of pictures of all the dead and dying so called "patriots" so that I could sell them to CNN and make a ton of that proverbial phat cash.

There is nothing patriotic about sedition, not even in the hypothetical.

~Heff



posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 02:45 PM
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They could just microwave all you, and you could do nothing. Just think of all the things the ptb know is bad for humans, and you can bet they have made it into a weapon.



posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 02:45 PM
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I choose not to fight uneven battles. The average citizen doesn't have tanks, after all.



posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 02:49 PM
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Separate into individual cells all able to make command decisions based on the objective in key locations.
Propaganda/Recruitment
Strengthen these cells.
Propaganda/Recruitment
Level the playing field - damage or take out the infrastructure they are dependent on.
Propaganda/Recruitment
Destroy there ability to communicate freely.
Propaganda/Recruitment
Cut off supply lines/means of manufacturing.
Propaganda/Recruitment
Execute high level officials in the opposing faction.
Propaganda/Recruitment
Take control of key locations.
Propaganda/Recruitment
Strangle them until they die. (metaphorically)
Give the world back to the people.

Not necessarily in this order. . .

edit on 12/8/2010 by AnteBellum because: spelling



posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 02:50 PM
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Originally posted by AdAbsurdum
reply to post by aliengenes
 


How big is the force?

Depending on the man power controls what some one could do
edit on 8-12-2010 by AdAbsurdum because: (no reason given)


lets assume 5 specially trained tacticians.

or since its hypothetical, you can imaging a greater force if you desire since its yours.

personally i prefer only 5



posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 02:53 PM
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i like your thinking in the hypothetical



posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 02:57 PM
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Originally posted by aliengenes
lets assume 5 specially trained tacticians.
or since its hypothetical, you can imaging a greater force if you desire since its yours.
personally i prefer only 5


can't do it with that amount.
tacticians do not fight wars,
they only plan them.

u will need boots on the ground,
lots of them



posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 02:58 PM
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Hypothetically, I would try to get my force into area 51. Get all the Alien technology I can.



posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 03:05 PM
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Ok, so you got 5 guys.

First step is to hamper the opposition forces. You are going to be initially facing local and state police. So, this group would need to know precinct locations, jurisdictions, response times, etc.

Next, the group will need funding so banks would have to be robbed with no casualties suffered.

After the funding was met than the initial assault on the power grid begins. Taking out power to the rich parts of town and leaving the poor areas alone will make for a good piece of propaganda. It will ensure you receive media attention and will also put you in a better light in deal with the poor.

The poor are plentiful and so they would need to be catered to.

Once you accomplished all of this, then you would be looking at federal involvement. So, the FBI is gonna come a knocking. Here is where things get dicey and everyone is probably going to jail. The only shot you'll have at surviving this stage is if you could pull off enough high profile stuff to force military involvement.

Once martial law is declared you can kick back and what everyone else do the fighting while you lie low and begin to target sites essential to the survival of the cause.

I've been wanting to write a book about this sort of thing. Like, the government goes full Nazi and then we have to all band together and operate clandestinely. Like Red Dawn but with less teenager.



posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 03:05 PM
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given a large enough force, my "establishment targets" would be

1) The Stock Exchanges (DOW, NASDAQ, and S&P) on Wall Street.
2) The White House
3) Fox, CNN, and MSNBC News Headquarters
4) The Supreme Court building in Washington
5) IRS HQ
6) The Pentagon
7) The Federal Reserve Buildings in Washington, New York, and Philadelphia
8) Capitol Hill (Congress AND Senate)
9) HQ's of JP Morgan Chase, Bank of America, Goldman Sachs, VISA, Mastercard, and AMEX
10) United Nations HQ New York

This is probably my top 10. Lots more further down the list though. It would have to be a LARGE force, but I'm guessing someone like Blackwater might be able to make this happen.
edit on 8-12-2010 by babybunnies because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by aliengenes
Lets assume that you or a unified force of focused, well armed patriots were to make a push on the establishment, what would your main objectives be, and what would you consider the greatest cherry pickins to unravel their strengths?

what would you go after that would make a difference?

now remember this is all hypothetical

TBTB vs resistance(Which unfortunately I think they would slaughter or put in those nice little Fema camps.. The first objective would be to get a unified server with elite hackers to gather more support and attack biased media, while searching the location of intelligence agencies, HAARP, military outposts and military facilities with aircraft/tank and possibly nuclear weapons. Unify, command and conquer. Systematically taking bases over from the inside of the United States outwardly kinda like a spider web. Once the bases are taken, our server would notify people of any threat areas are so we could unify quickly, while maintaining the benefit of a large sphere of influence (Heh sorta like they do). I would destroy media radio stations, television stations and Hollywood movie producers that rely on brain washing my brothers and sisters. Likely to be replaced by live video feeds and free access to all media on the net; without censorship. I would dismantle the oil tycoons, stop drilling in to the earth for fossil fuels that we burn that creates pollution. Melt down the cars and eventually create a self-propulsion mechanism for train systems world wide. I would return property that is currently owned by the trillionaires to the communities, Concidering the banks and government own every single establishment and acre on this planet. I would take over microsoft for the sheer amount of computers, install free source (linux) on all of them and link them to the private server and then distribute computers to the whole world. That way even if they can burn books and supress information in media currently - it would be much harder to delete things in cyber space when one document could be uploaded to infinate different pages. I would distribute the seeds from the seed banks all over the world. Gather the wisest scientists to create larger versions of water filters through reverse osmosis, and boil away impurities rather than hoping chlorine and flouride won't rape our brain, Find a means to remove the birth-control substance from the water system, due to it's extremely long half life it doesn't break down when they attempt to purify it which leads to feminie males - sometimes infertility. I would line every "elite member" on a stage infront of the people that they manipulated and lied to, stole from, and the families whom lost their children - and make them apologize. I would keep them around and torture them worse than they have been treating Guantanamo Bay soliders, but not physically abusively. Lock them in rooms with non-stop Barney playing loudly and displaying on every corner of the room. Feed them once every three days, water everyday. See how they enjoy their psychosis
They surely have given me bouts. Some other fun things I would do, legalize Marijuana, Peyote, Psychadelic Mushrooms, '___' and MDMA for medical, or recreational use. I would limit the amount of Benzo's and Opiates distributed - due to fear of apathy, lethargy and an overall discontent for life usually arise; but none the less free use! I would make sure that anti-biotics are available to all whom need, Vaccines that poison people would be put out of commission, along with that ugly monster we call the Pharmacuetical corporations
I would begin to distribute Collodial silver to Africa, Haiti and places in Latin America that our #ed up government gave people HIV and Syphilis, Cholera to stop the outbreaks. Then distribute collodial silver to the rest of the world due to it's beneficial anti-virus,fungal,bacterial properties. I would begin making Orbitally Rearranged Monoatomic Elements (manna) and feed those who are concerned with spiritual growth, It feeds your light body! Once food conditions and disease prevention were controlled; society can do what it wants - it's always gonna grow as an organism and sustain even if some do not want to contribute. I have a feeling we would be listening to mad regaee and enjoying our beautiful mother after we finally destroyed every last weapon on the planet. So if anybody wants to try again, they can be my guest if they can succed with wooden swords or pure physical over powerment. But then again they would be free to go wherever they want, and do whatever they want; so to choose that option I would assume they didn't join the resistance in hopes of peace and a better future, but merely because they were in a state of discontent. I hate our government and I hope that this doesn't happen but a revolution seems immanent. I just wish it coulda been Ghandi's dream. Unfortunately turning the other cheeck isn't respected for how noble it is; Now we consider loving people "Pussys"
There is probably a lot of other things that we would end up doing, and a lot of details about taking over the bases that is not included. Because everything is circumstantial; I don't know where would be the best place to start. HAARP would probably be the best choice. Maybe some o dem predator missile planes our boys have been dropping on innocents lately..



posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 03:33 PM
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Originally posted by AdAbsurdum
reply to post by aliengenes
 


Ok, so you got 5 guys.

First step is to hamper the opposition forces. You are going to be initially facing local and state police. So, this group would need to know precinct locations, jurisdictions, response times, etc.

Next, the group will need funding so banks would have to be robbed with no casualties suffered.

After the funding was met than the initial assault on the power grid begins. Taking out power to the rich parts of town and leaving the poor areas alone will make for a good piece of propaganda. It will ensure you receive media attention and will also put you in a better light in deal with the poor.

The poor are plentiful and so they would need to be catered to.

Once you accomplished all of this, then you would be looking at federal involvement. So, the FBI is gonna come a knocking. Here is where things get dicey and everyone is probably going to jail. The only shot you'll have at surviving this stage is if you could pull off enough high profile stuff to force military involvement.

Once martial law is declared you can kick back and what everyone else do the fighting while you lie low and begin to target sites essential to the survival of the cause.

I've been wanting to write a book about this sort of thing. Like, the government goes full Nazi and then we have to all band together and operate clandestinely. Like Red Dawn but with less teenager.
Excellent idea about taking the self sufficent out, the poor masses would take you to be a messiah. The FBI would fall apart IMO; they are so divided. If the powers that be are threatening their families and won't have a means to pay them I bet that they would join your resistance. Martial law would suck balls, but that would be sick if you got out and could lay low long enough for resistance, or survival.

Originally posted by babybunnies
given a large enough force, my "establishment targets" would be

1) The Stock Exchanges (DOW, NASDAQ, and S&P) on Wall Street.
2) The White House
3) Fox, CNN, and MSNBC News Headquarters
4) The Supreme Court building in Washington
5) IRS HQ
6) The Pentagon
7) The Federal Reserve Buildings in Washington, New York, and Philadelphia
8) Capitol Hill (Congress AND Senate)
9) HQ's of JP Morgan Chase, Bank of America, Goldman Sachs, VISA, Mastercard, and AMEX
10) United Nations HQ New York

This is probably my top 10. Lots more further down the list though. It would have to be a LARGE force, but I'm guessing someone like Blackwater might be able to make this happen.
edit on 8-12-2010 by babybunnies because: (no reason given)
I don't think the Wall street games will continue much longer. The white house is a great idea, let's paint it Red White and Blue haha. The IRS would be nice, if taxes and currency aren't dismantled. Deff pentagon.

But to the both of you, You consider it from the angle that the monetary system would remain stable? the devaluation of our currecy suggests continuous trade and resource wars. unfortunately believe we are entering an age where we realize the insignificance of money after survival needs are met, hence the reason for the RDIF chips they purpose. I think it would be better to attempt large scale growing operations for food, and deffinately people would eat less. I just feel like it would end up being a bartering system + communism element when it comes down to survival and luxery living dies out. If the paper has nothing to back it people will realize it is invisible. I feel like if we could take the money supply over; we would end up just like the Fed. Thinking we own the world, controlling everyone with media, and overall making more enemies than friends. They say your right hand man ain't your right hand man til your right hand filled with money, you feel me money? lol. I just try imagining the world after the economic and social collapse... maybe if we can't fight them we should go back to the jungle and find new types of life in the rainforests and # lols.



posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 03:57 PM
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Look I posted going after area 51, because I don't think anyone is going to take it seriously. I do though.

The rest of you are posting some ideas that will now give TPTB of what they should be looking out for. I don't think that's a good idea.

OP are you asking this just so you can go to your masters in TPTB to tell them what to get ready for?



posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 04:02 PM
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I do not need to give the ptb ideas on this,

Just imagine everything that is bad for humans, and they would of weaponised it by now.

Microwaves has been weaponised, and it would stop anyone fact.
edit on 12/8/2010 by andy1033 because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by Hefficide
reply to post by aliengenes
 


My priority would be to get my camera, take a bunch of pictures of all the dead and dying so called "patriots" so that I could sell them to CNN and make a ton of that proverbial phat cash.

There is nothing patriotic about sedition, not even in the hypothetical.

~Heff


So, everything's good? Your post is sick, man. Thanks for pointing it out.



posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 04:32 PM
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There is nothing patriotic about sedition, not even in the hypothetical.


Well you can have my place in the bend over and take it line then!

When push comes to shove what do you intend to do, yell at them through a loudspeaker?



posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 04:37 PM
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Forget the government or any government targets. Go for the power behind the throne. The people pulling the strings.

Cut off the head of the beast. That would be a "civil matter" and would not even involve the "official" armed forces.

Now all you have to do is identify your targets



posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by AnteBellum

Well you can have my place in the bend over and take it line then!

When push comes to shove what do you intend to do, yell at them through a loudspeaker?


We, as a society, are miles and miles away from needing or justifying talk of an armed revolution. Despite what Fox news crams down our collective throats - we are not living in a Socialist police state. This is merely rhetoric designed to ensure that Republicans get elected in 2012. Unfortunately some fringe elements drink the Kool Aid and get these Rambo fantasies about how a few good hearted citizens with their shotguns could overthrow the government.

If anyone is stupid enough to try this, at this point in time, they'll either end up, justly, dead or in a prison.

Thank you, but no... I don't want a bunch of misguided Palin worshippers overthrowing my rightfully elected leadership.

Oh, and just for fun... To point out the obvious... This thread is very indicative of what is known as a "honey pot". A way to get oneself pegged as a "domestic terrorist". Anyone with training, or half a brain, would never post anything seditious in a forum or thread like this.

~Heff




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