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Originally posted by ypperst
Very good post
Yup, there is a war going on.
Oh, and one little thing, he won't release any 9/11 info.. He doesn't believe in the 9/11 thingy, and then I doubt he will release ANY information on 9/11.
And for the UFO cables. Nah, I don't think we are gonna get blown away. I just think its little things that wont change anything in the UFO community.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
hmmmm...I wonder where all this will lead?
Internet regulations and restrictions anyone???
And all of you are applauding those that will cause it....good job.
Originally posted by ZombieWoof
This exactly where it's leading, and I believe that was the plan all along. So much rhetoric flying around. The crack down has begun. It's only a matter of time until web sites are shut down and others are arrested. They'll send the warning soon that anyone who re-posts 'secret' docs is just as guilty as Assange.
Originally posted by Monts
Thats right ATS.
We are in the midst of one of the biggest wars this world has seen in decades.
Except this war is a war of information and control, not a war of conventional means.
This war is being fought between the wikileaks group, and the government/corporation group. One only needs to take a look at all the recent wikileaks-related headlines to see the truth:
"All-out cyber war' erupts over WikiLeaks: 'Anonymous' hackers take MasterCard offline"
"Media outlets may be probed over WikiLeaks stories, Sen. Lieberman claims"
"Swedish prosecutor's website under cyber attack"
"Wikileaks under powerful cyber attack"
"WikiLeaks Under Attack; No Comment From State Department"
"Hackers Attack Websites of Perceived Enemies of WikiLeaks"
And the list goes on.
Its quite easy to see the back and forth attacks that are going on... and they seem to be only increasing in size and intensity.
Just recently, hackers took down mastercard online. MASTERCARD!!!!
With attacks such as these going on, could we see an "escalation" to the point where infrastructures of governments/countries could be attacked, affecting our everyday lives?
Lets not forget how intertwined our everyday lives are with technology- cellphones, credit cards, INTERAC, internet- even much of our traffic light system is controlled by computers. Could operations like these come under attack?
Lets not forget who is on wikileaks' side; a bunch or armchair computer hackers spread out over many different locations! If these armchair hackers unite to defend wikileaks, the government could become totally powerless to stop them from completely taking out technological infrastructures.
So what are the two sides of this war fighting for?
Well the government and the corporations that run it are obviously fighting to keep the ability to have secrets and keep the people in the dark.
Whether or not you think governments have the right to keep secrets from the public is up to you, but personally I think it is a privilege that has become the source of most, if not all governmental corruption. If governments were totally transparent, there would be no corruption, at least not at the scale we see today. Just try and imagine what kind of dirty secrets the governments are hinding in the name of "national security".
Wikileaks seems to be fighting to initiate some kind of idealistic global reform- to expose the geo-political secrets of the world and keep them in fear of continuing to operate in the same secretive fashion that they have been for who knows how many years.
Just take a moment to step out of the fray and take a look at whats at stake here.
Whether or not you think wikileaks is government info or a true freedom-fighting movement, you can't deny the ripples it is making world-wide, and can't help but feel excited at the prospects of certain government secrets, such as JFK, 9/11, federal reserve, BP oil-spill, Iraq, Afghanistan, and even UFO's coming to light.
We without doubt live in extremely interesting and crazy times, and this very well could be the most organized effort at liberation from government corruption we have seen in years.
Unfortunately, as in any war, there could be huge amounts of casualties, and its fair to say that the powers that be won't bend to the will of wikileaks, and if it sees defeat, will thrash about like a wounded animal and try and take down the rest of the world with it.
I'd say that this could be the best chance for people like us here on ATS to contribute to the fight against oppression.
Even if Wikileaks is a CIA operated organization, its pretty obvious that if such were reality, then wikileaks main goal would be to eliminate even more freedom. If such is true, then wikileaks could be the biggest mistake TPTB have ever committed.
These last few weeks could be the start of a new revolution; it is only my hope that things don't start escalating out of control and we those supposed FEMA camps come to use...