Kilroy Silk was right

I think that Mr Kilroy Silk of the United Kingdom Independence Party was spot on with what he said about the arabs (not muslims) but the arab people in general.

Name one arab that has contributed anything of value to the benefit of any society?

I cant think of a single arab that has done anything good. Perhaps you can?

They wont even stand up to say that these muslim fundamentalists are fundamentally mental in the way they carry out the murdourous attacks on westerners and western property.

Unless the good people of the middle east start saying that what is happening is wrong, long will it continue.

I am not a racist. I am a realist. a fine line in this case.

Did the BBC have the right to do what they did to Mr Silk.

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Wow. Just...wow. Such downright ignorance and bigotry on ATS just appalls me.

Name one Arab who has ever contributed anythign good to society? Well, what abotu the arabic members of ATS? There's bound to me a few around, but I don't suppose they would exactly step up adn say it because that'd make them targets for hatemongers like you. Makes me sick.

Oh yeah... learn your history. Do you know why we even have the works of Plato and Socrates today? Because an arab scholar kept them, made commentaries, and sold them back to the european as that Dark age where 90% of the populace was illiterate.

Yeah...of course, you do realize that a lot of muslims live in places like Africa and the PacRim, right? Is anyone listening when they object? Does anyone care?

DE

I'm surprised it took you two edits to get your post up to that level of erudition and wit.

Kilroy-Silk is an ignorant, rascist, homophobic has-been - which, I will admit, makes him perfect UKIP material. I'll be prepared to debate the contribution of muslims to contemporary culture when you can show me what either Mr. Kilry-Silk or you yourself have contributed. Until then, I respectfully suggest you confine your bile and sickening "politics" to another, more suitable outlet.

But before you slink off, 1Ting, are you aware the UKIP actually denies their rascist policies in public? You're only supposed to be a bigot in private, silly! Now everyone will realise that you're only one step removed form the BNP and survive only on a diet of rhetoric and hate! Doh!

Originally posted by 1Ting4SureWeAreNotAlone
I am not a racist. I am a realist. a fine line in this case.

Yes you are.

Originally posted by 1Ting4SureWeAreNotAlone
Name one arab that has contributed anything of value to the benefit of any society?
I cant think of a single arab that has done anything good. Perhaps you can?

See?

It's truly sad that people like you continue to preach such hate and ignorance.
Your mother must be proud.

Just a quick post.

Should such complete ignorance really be dignified with any further response?

I think not, I hope this idiotic thread is finished here.

Jack

Respectfully, I must disagree, Jack. Wilfull ignorance and prejuidice of this staggering intensity can only be defeated if it met at every turn with fierce condemnation. To ignore this crap is to let it fester and grow.

A line has to be drawn.

I just have one thing to say......

I haven't such ignorance on ATS in a long time.


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ISLAMIC CONTRIBUTIONS TO SCIENCE
The Islamic empire in the early 6th. centuries were the inheritors of the scientific tradition of late antiquity. They preserved it, elaborated it, and finally, passed it to Europe (Science p3). At this early date, the Islamic dynasty of the Umayyads envinced an interest in science. It was the century that were, for Europeans, the Dark Ages, were, for Muslim scholars, centuries of philosophical and scientific discovery and development. The Arabs at the time not only assimilated the ancient wisdom of Persia, and the classical heritage of Greece, but adapted their own distinctive needs and ways of thinking (Hitti 363).

The Islamic ability to reconcile monotheism and science proofs to be a first time in human thought that theology, philosophy, and science were finally harmonized in a unified whole. Thus their contribution was "one of the first magnitude, considering its effect upon scientific and philosophic thought and upon the theology of later times" (Hitti 580). One of the reason for such development of science is probably due to God's commandment to explore the laws of nature. The idea is to admire all creations for its complexity - to cherish the creator for the ingenuity. Possibly holding to this believe, Islam's contributions to science had covered many roots of thought including mathematics, astronomy, medicine and philosophy. This paper will examine these roots of natural science, and unearth the contributions of the Islamic thinkers.

Muslim Contributions to Science and Art
Just as many are there sciences, so many do we require specialists from among the historians to describe adequately the Muslim contribution to each branch and to collaborate in the compilation of a general survey of this vast subject. Far from pretending to deal adequately with the topic, an attempt is made here to give information of a general nature relating to the role the Muslims have played in the development of the various arts and sciences.

General Attitude

444. Islam is a comprehensive concept of life and not merely a religion describing the relations between man and his Creator. Therefore it becomes necessary to, first of all, give an account of the attitude of Islam with respect to the pursuit of arts and sciences.

www.muslimheritage.com...

Word of advice 1Ting4SureWeAreNotAlone. Read your history before you start talking # about a culture you obviously know nothing about.

Originally posted by StrangeLands
I'll be prepared to debate the contribution of muslims to contemporary culture when you can show me what either Mr. Kilry-Silk or you yourself have contributed.

You are obviously mistaken with your rantings. If you read my original thread it stated ARABS and not MUSLIMS. Oh I forgot the muslims are that far up themselves that they think they are the only religion within the community. and all those other names you realled off who ever they are, all they did is write a book. Just like the guys who wrote the KORAN and the BIBLE. And what good did that do. If it were not for those idioitic book writters we might all be living in harmony.

So get off your high horse and quote me some real names fool

Originally posted by StrangeLands
the UKIP actually denies their rascist policies in public? You're only supposed to be a bigot in private,

So I guess its okay for the muslim leaders to deny OSMA bin laden and Co in private. BECAUSE NOT ONE MUSLIM LEADER HAS YET STOOD UP TO HIM.

brown marks in theyre underpants or what

Arab contributions?

you mean contributions like mathemetics, the number zero, algebra, modern trigonometry, the calendar, latitude, longitude, the rotating earth theory; advances in medicine including the understanding of contagion, the diagnosis of small pox, and measles, many medicines, surgical stitches, architecture, irrigation, the first accurate maps, (the ones our early "explorers" used), navigation, horticulture, botany, the water wheel, cisterns, the camera obscura, the discovery of comets, mirages, tides and the ground work for modern optics, music, geography, philosophy, politics....

They were very height of civilisation, culture, and modernity when we were in the dark ages, and the saviours much of the scientific and philosophical thinking that helped bring about the Enlightenment in Europe.

They also invented the bagpipes.

I am not a racist. I am a realist. a fine line in this case.

No, it's a great fat mother of a line, and you're still on the wrong side of it. Educate yourself.

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Wow! Hitler w�re so stolz auf Sie. Heil!

Why is it i get all the warnings?

Because my statements are not politically correct.

Why is it that we try to keep the peace in our community but let others destroy it?

I started off a perfectly good thread. And the MUSLIM community could not accept the battle to defend the ARAB Contribution.

ukip is by no way a racist party. and i am by no way racist. I have a half brother who is halfcast. I have family loyalties through various differnt communities.

So dont expect me to keep quiet when muslims cant think of anything better to contribute to this thread but the OLD CHESTNUT OF RACISM.

get a grip. give me a real argument with real names of people. NOT objects alphabets books and stuff. REAL PEOPLE.. obviously you all cant think of one single person. And someone who is a bit more recent than 1 million BC.

The koran The bible and any other religion in my eyes breeds hatred. And that is what you ill concieved people are feeling now. I WILL SAY THIS NOW I AM NOT A RACIST. MUSLIMS ARE NOT THE ONLY RELIGION AMONGST THE ARAB NATIONS. AND IF THEY ARE. WHY IS THIS? BECAUSE THEY DONT LET YOU EXPRESS YOURSELVES POLITICALLY OR RELIGOUSLY.

anyone who defends this must trully be off theyre nut

Get a grip old son......you're starting to foam at the mouth.


zero lift

ps tomorrow doesn't belong to you.

Originally posted by 1Ting4SureWeAreNotAlone
You are obviously mistaken with your rantings. If you read my original thread it stated ARABS and not MUSLIMS.

Ah, so the reference to "muslim fundamentalists" was just made in passing, was it?

Oh I forgot the muslims are that far up themselves that they think they are the only religion within the community.

Gosh. I am glad you've already assured us you're not rascist, because otherwise that statement would look like a sickening generalisation made by a ignorant bigot who doesn't have the faintest idea about multiculturalism.

and all those other names you realled off who ever they are

I'm sorry, but I didn't reel off any names. Perhaps you meant Ocelot? No, it's okay, I can understand the confusion, you're obviously so busy with your extensive study of history, literature, science and mathematics that you don't have the time to notice thing like who it is that's proving you wrong.

all they did is write a book.

Which is no big deal, is it? Remind me, 1Ting, how many books have you written? What contribution have you made? How have you improved modern society? You should write a book. All you need to do is sit down, find a pen, and think up some words that go nicely together. Like "Once upon a time". Or "Happily ever after."

Or "rascist" and "prick".

If it were not for those idioitic book writters we might all be living in harmony.

Yeah, it's those bastard book writers who spoil it for everyone, isn't it? Them and their fancy ideas and language. If it wasn't for them, we'd all be perfectly happy living in a cave, chewing on a leg of an antelope.

I am tired of this crap, 1Ting. I am tired of morons spouting this bile and spoiling my otherwise sunny demeanour. I am tired of ignorance and prejuidice passng itself of as legitimate political comment. I am tired of accusations of "political correctness" and "whiny liberals".

So here's the deal, 1Ting - you don't post any more of this groundless, inflammatory bollocks, and I won't rip each and every one of your ignorant, badly-worded, mispelled posts to pieces. Sound good?

Of course, if you'd rather go toe-to-toe on the relative value of arabs and you, I'll be happy to oblige.

So get off your high horse and quote me some real names fool

Actually, my horse isn't all that high - it just looks high when you're so low down in the gutter.

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And just in under the wire:

I have a half brother who is halfcast.

Because balanced, inclusive, reasonable people still use words like "halfcast", don't they?

Originally posted by 1Ting4SureWeAreNotAlone


So I guess its okay for the muslim leaders to deny OSMA bin laden and Co in private. BECAUSE NOT ONE MUSLIM LEADER HAS YET STOOD UP TO HIM.

Plenty have, you're jsut not listening. Just because you don't hear in the news that an impoverished imam in the Phillipines or a cleric in Chad objects doesn't mean it doesn't happen, jackwipe.

I don't pretend to defend religion in any form. I just smite people like you.

And since you refuse to read Ocelot's links, you're obviously not listening. Books and objects and ideas have to be started by someone.

Do yourself and all of us a favor...shut your face hole, and go somewhere else. Your racism, ignorance, and general refusal to listen aren't wanted here.

DE

Originally posted by 1Ting4SureWeAreNotAlone
Why is it i get all the warnings?

You get warnings because you are using inappropriate language on ATS and you are calling members names.
You did read the Terms & Conditions when you signed up here, right?