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Britain.. Libya and the Lockerbie bombing... Something doesn't quite add up??

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posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 02:47 AM
Something I found strange in wikileaks release which kind of set the alarm bells ringing..
It is a release which concerns Lockerbie bomber, abdelbasat al-mengrahi being released early from prison on compassionate grounds..
This is a story I found strange when he was originally released, which caused fury against the Scottish government.
The 'leak' talked about threats made to Britain by libyan leader col gaddafi over the case and that could have "disastrous implications" for the uk these could have included stopping British commercial interests, severing political ties and demonstrating against official facilities.
One cable warned that if al magrahi was allowed to die in a British jail the consequences would have been 'harsh, immediate and not easily remidied"
It was said Britain fears Libya would "cut us off at our knees"

I just find this very strange.. Why would a country like Britain be afraid of idle threats from a country like Libya? So much so that they would release a convicted terrorist, that committed an atrocity that killed countless people? What could Libya possibly do to cause such a reaction from Britain? I'm sure Britain could damage Libya, a country with serious problems already alot more than they could harm us..
Also if they u.s had this information, then why was there so much, slamming if britain by the American government over this decision?
Maybe I'm reading to much into it, but it just seems a little strange to me..
We would release a convicted terrorist, to a known terrorist country because of a threat, and at the same time upsetting our closet ally on the world stage..
What do you guys think? Thoughts please...

posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 03:31 AM
What about the war on terror? Oh that does not matter, when there is money to be made or lost. This whole case was dodgy to say the least. I think he was an innocent man, and thats why gadaffi was so upset.

posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 03:37 AM
reply to post by illuminnaughty

Yeah.... Something is a little weird with the whole thing...

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posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 03:49 AM
reply to post by Misterlondon

Wait...they released a guy that mass-murdered 270 people???

posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 03:53 AM
reply to post by Nonchalant

Yeah... Released on compassionate grounds, by the Scottish government, no doubt under orders from the british government..

posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 04:27 AM
reply to post by Nonchalant

He didn’t do it. Many programmes aired in the UK show he couldn’t have done it, and these were made by excellent investigative reporters and the government attempted to block the airing of these programmes, many, many times. The case all hangs on one man’s account, a stall holder in Malta who says he sold some clothes to him. There’s loads of accounts on the net that describe how the FBI were on the grounds within minutes of the plane exploding, local police having the incident taken out of their control and jurisdiction by them (which the local bobbies couldn’t fathom) and all info being sent up to high government immediately. Smacks of a cover up of something that the British and US governments were in on and/or controlled.
I empathise with all the people affected by it, I really do as it must be the most awful thing but they jailed the wrong man because they wanted to place sanctions on Libya and did not want to rock the ‘peace process’ in Palestine. They also ‘know’ that the bomb was put on the plane in Heathrow as nothing was picked up in Frankfurt.

posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 04:39 AM
Great selection of info here....

‘The prosecution case was that al-Megrahi took the bomb, wrapped in clothes bought from a shop in Malta, to the island's Luqa airport, where it was checked in and then transferred onto Pan Am flight 103.
A key witness against al-Megrahi was the Maltese shopkeeper Tony Gauci, who owned Mary's House, where the police say the garments were bought. He identified al-Megrahi as having been in his shop some weeks before the bombing. ‘

From the report of UN observer, Dr Hans Kochler, after Megrahi's trial:
It was a consistent pattern during the whole trial that - as an apparent result of political interests and considerations - efforts were undertaken to withhold substantial information from the Court. The Opinion of the Court is exclusively based on circumstantial evidence and on a series of highly problematic inferences. As to the undersigned's knowledge, there is not one single piece of material evidence linking the two accused to the crime. On the basis of the above observations and evaluation, the undersigned has - to his great dismay - reached the conclusion that the trial, seen in its entirety, was not fair and was not conducted in an objective manner. Indeed, there are many more questions and doubts at the end of the trial than there were at its beginning. Full text available at

Read more: EUA

Lockerbie and the conspiracy theories
Long standing theories about who was behind the bombing of a Pan Am jet over Lockerbie in 1988 have now been joined by a batch of new claims about the reasons behind the moves to release Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi.

Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi: he dropped his second appeal to pave the way for return home. Photo: EPA
By John Bingham 3:10PM BST 20 Aug 2009
The Iranian connection:

Iran was initially the prime suspect and had the most obvious motive for bombing a US airliner in December 1988. Five months earlier an Iranian civilian aircraft was shot down by the US warship the USS Vincennes and Ayatollah Khomeini called for revenge.

The theory is that Iran paid the Syrian-based Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine General Command (PFLP-GC) to carry out the attack on its behalf. Ahmad Behbahani, a former Iranian intelligence official, later claimed that he personally conveyed the message to the PFLP-GC.

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But the group has denied any involvement and one of the main named suspects, Mohammed Abu Talb, gave evidence at Megrahi's trial offering an alibi.

Abu Nidal and the Libyans:

The Palestinian terrorist, who died in Baghdad in 2002, is said to have to have boasted to aides in his Fatah Revolutionary Council that he was behind the Pan Am attack. Nidal lived in Libya in the late 1980s not long after the US air strikes on Tripoli, a possible motive.

Following his death Atef Abu Bakr, a former member of Nidal's circle, told a newspaper that Nidal had been adamant he was behind the bombing but sworn his aides to secrecy.

But he could not provide evidence to substantiate Nidal's claim or say who Nidal had been working for.

South Africa:

Colonel Gaddafi is among those who have voiced the theory that the Apartheid government of South Africa may have been complicit.

A handful of senior South African officials including the then Foreign Minister Pik Botha cancelled bookings for the flight at short notice fuelling speculation that they had been tipped off about the bomb.

The suggestion was that there was a plot to assassinate Bernt Carlsson, the designated UN Commissioner for the newly independent Namibia, who died on the flight.

Mr Botha confirmed that he had indeed been booked onto the flight and cancelled but described the theory as "absurd and far-fetched" pointing out that security agents did not know which flight he was on.

The CIA and drugs running:

Another recurring theory centres on claims that the CIA or rogue elements within it had cleared a drugs smuggling route from Europe to America involving Pan Am flights in return for intelligence about militant groups.

The theory goes that two US intelligence officials, Matthew Gannon and Maj Charles McKee, had uncovered the practice and were flying back unannounced to America to raise their concerns but were killed on the way.

But Maj McKee's mother is convinced, based on her own last conversation with him, that his superiors did not know he was flying home.

The Government and Libya:

There have been claims that the decision to release Megrahi is part of a "blood money" deal between the British establishment and Libya, bringing the former pariah state in from the cold in return for furthering UK oil interests.

Tony Blair first announced a "new relationship" with Libya in 2004, the Duke of York has since made four visits to the country, meeting Gaddafi and his son Seif.

Although Gordon Brown, who met Gaddafi earlier this year, has described the Lockerbie issue as a matter for the Scottish government, it was also allegedly raised when Lord Mandelson met Seif last month in Corfu.

But Kenny MacAskill, the Scottish Justice Minister, insisted that the decision to release Megrahi on compassionate grounds was his alone.

posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 04:40 AM
Left unsaid in the leaks of course would be any reference to the highly questionable "evidence" used to convict in the first place. Also left unsaid would be any reference to the agreed upon appeal by his lawyers at which time they would have been able to present previously withheld evidence that would have acquitted the accused. In fact, a whole lot of stuff the US and British governments would have preferred to have been kept hidden away was probably going to come to light.

So, they cobbled together a good cover story and let him go. That way they get to keep hidden all their dirty little secrets surrounding the Lockerbie bombing and still have the alleged perp looking like the bad guy!

Sure, maybe Libya used a bit of pressure too and threatened to keep British companies out of any oil deals, but that is probably only a very small part of it.

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