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Curious Thing About Wikileaks and Assange

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posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 05:18 PM
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I doubt it's about alien disclosure, I believe the government knows about as much or a little more than we do on UFO's and aliens.... Sure the government may have gained alien technology from some UFO crash, however I doubt we have anything to worry about from aliens...

Think of it like this, there are over two hundred billion stars that make up our galaxy and still counting. If aliens exist they have already been studying other stars and planets like ours, that probably evolved like earth...These studies would be happening in very heavy star cluster regions of our galaxy, and seeing we live nowhere in such a region with only a small Alpha Centauri nearby... chances are aliens have already classified our star, planet an species by observing other nearby star clusters. Take for example ant colonies, we only need to study one ant colony to learn about them, we don't have to study a billion other ant colonies just like them. Therefore this would make it rare for aliens to visit earth, we live in one of those remote locations... we are just a lonely ant pile away from civilization......

There you go... you heard it first here as to why Aliens, and this Assange character will amount to nothing new towards alien disclosure.
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posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 05:21 PM
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Abso-bloody-lutely.

I don't think there's any doubt that this is the case. The man is a hero in my opinion, and the more people we have like him out there the better. I believe all of this character assassination is taking place so that people will tolerate an arrest and subsequent extradition, as a preemptive maneuver to prevent the release of the most damaging reports.



posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 05:34 PM
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You've got a pretty valid point there. I would like to see those leaks, and where this all goes. Maybe all will be explained with the opening of the insurance file.



posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 05:35 PM
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Originally posted by Sinter Klaas
Just like his arrest that happened in a country that do not act like some others are. Coincidence ? Or planned.

The guy is obviously intelligent. But is he intelligent enough ?


The first leak in April, about US soldiers killing civilians and journalists in Iraq, indicates an astute team that have strategically planned the order of release and are probably as aware of the risks to themselves as they have been about media response.

Not all MSM in the UK are ignoring the inordinate nature of the arrest, implications of the denial of bail for so minor a charge and over-zealous application of international extradition agreements.



posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 05:38 PM
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Well, on the subject of assange's rape charges, I think they're just an excuse to bring him in for questioning/threatening. But that's just my opinion.



posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 05:42 PM
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I understand your point however I do not think that the UFO "revelation" was a catalyst.

What I do not understand is *if* the USG is behind the witch hunt to get Assange what they hope to achieve by it?

IMO all it will do is put a bad light on Wikileaks in the minds of the general population.

Even if he is extradited to the US and charged the leaking of Cables will not stop. The distribution of the Insurance File will not stop. People will not stop posting WikiLeaks mirror sites. The Guardian amongst others has all of the cables I believe so even if Wikileaks is officially a "Terrorist Organsation" in the eyes of the US are the Media going to stop posting leaked revelations?

Going after Assange will not stop the train.

I truly believe the Governments of the world are worried about what is in the files but only from the viewpoint of it "awakening" for want of a better word, more of the general population.



posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 05:49 PM
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From what I've been reading on other sites, the diplomatic fall out from the leaks has hit the vipers very hard. That, of course, won't appear in the MSM. Their duplicity, bribery, coertion and, in some instances, crimes have caused big ripples, apparently. I see that as a real positive - it might weaken the US ability to bulldoze things and carry on with 'dirty deals' - for a while at least. Many countries were already distancing themselves from US because of their blatant and illegal banking conspiracies. Apparently at the emergency meeting in China in November, Obama was isolated...no-one would buy whatever line it was he was trying to get people to agree to. It seems as though the wikileaks may have fallen on more fertile ground than usual because of this. His timing was perfect in that respect.

As I said, I see this as hugely positive...it won't hamper decent diplomatic relations (as claimed by Hillary) but it will seriously hamper the Cabal's ability to deceive and dupe. I think that is one of the reasons why they are so hysterical. More obstacles to their murderous Agenda.

Another reason, I believe, is the info on the banks that he said they will release next. The bank criminality is at the core of the Cabal's ability to fund itself, so a big blow here would be another huge tightening of the screw on the cabal's ability to function. The furore went into crescendo after his statement he will release bank info which would turn a major bank inside out. In fact, I know it's hard to know which info on the net is legit and which isn't, but many, many sources are saying that the cabal is in deep financial trouble - so a big exposure of bank fraud, for example, could be a real body blow to the Vipers.

He has said that the main purpose of the leaks is to make it increasingy hard for the Cabal to function, so at the moment it seems he's doing pretty well and they are insane with rage....and terrified of the bank releases, imo.

A third important aspect is that the Cabal don't tolerate even dissenters with a huge following, let alone activists. They are often horizontalized.

And there's the UFO disclosures - I don't know how much of a threat that is to them, except it might make the public aware of the extent they have been lied to...it will also wrench any UFO stuff out of secrecy and therefore, to some extent at least, out of their total control.

So, Assange represents a huge threat to their very ability to continue to plot and scheme unhindered in more than one respect.




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posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by teapot

The first leak in April, about US soldiers killing civilians and journalists in Iraq, indicates an astute team that have strategically planned the order of release and are probably as aware of the risks to themselves as they have been about media response.

Not all MSM in the UK are ignoring the inordinate nature of the arrest, implications of the denial of bail for so minor a charge and over-zealous application of international extradition agreements.



He is high profile and everything will be incredibly closely scrutinized by lawyers, HR groups, etc.

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posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by RMFX1

Originally posted by BrokenCar
Yeah this whole thing stinks of oppression. I don't believe for a second he raped those women.
I can't wait to see what else he has to release.


Why don't you believe that for a second? How well do you know him personally?

Rapists are usually control freaks that get off on power. How much power does Assange feel that he has over the worlds SUPERPOWERS right now? He must be getting off on that. Who wouldn't? What else does he get off on?

Personally, I don't know him personally so I couldn't have an opinion on it either way. I just couldn't be as sure as you are. Not even for a second.


Well the charges aren't for rape as we would define it, that much has been made very clear. Consentual sex without a condom, or consentual sex with a condom that breaks isn't considered rape in most countries of the world. So, no, based on the allegations against him he is definitely NOT a rapist in the usual sense of the word.

There is no other reason at all to suggest that he might be that kind of person, no more than there is to consider you are.



posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 06:54 PM
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dudes, he said there was mention of "UFOs", not "alien spacecraft."

How many times do you think folks working in the aerospace field refer to "unidentified flying objects?" Kites, balloons, legit aircraft where the flight plans are out of sequence, large flocks of migratory waterfowl...and on and on and on....

You people keep overgeneralizing here.



posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 07:04 PM
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Dear Crakeur

Too my mind it goes like this.

TPTB are not so much afraid of what will be in the documents as such but the fact that the MSM is all over anything that come out through him.

It is the questions that they will start to ask that has them bothered.

As I have maintained for years, you have two choices;

1 either the UFO ET subject in nonsense.

2 it is real and so dangerous that the truth can never be know by us for the sake of TPTB.

A lot of us on here think it is number 2

I had a thought about the Norway Spiral the other night that point to my conclusion.

If this was not a Russian Missile, then it must have been something real big for tem to say it was???



posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 08:20 PM
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Well it is a fair point, the timing is impecable...

we can but wonder

kx



posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 08:26 PM
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But, when an aviation specialist sees something in the air, that he cannot identify, it's far more compelling than when I see something I cannot identify.

Take, for example, the O'Hare incident. The pilots and air traffic controllers couldn't identify an object that hovered over a terminal. That, to me, is truly odd.
Thus, when US diplomats discuss an object that was not identifiable, that was flying, he odds are,there's more there than simply a gaggle of geese.

Thus, my query as to whether or not the mention of UFO disclosure in future leaks might have been the straw that broke the camel's back.

As to the bank story being the news, I doubt it. The bank issues are not secret really. Bank of America settled one of their issues today and nobody seemed to care, or notice. They did a myriad of bad things, as did the banks they took over. The only bank news that would be so devastating that our government would go to these lengths to keep it out of the public eye, would be goldman stuff. Since there are so many former gold man guys pulling obama's economic strings, only that would make sense and I doubt if it's that since we already know that a former BofA employee gave Assange info.

Plus, the push didn't start, in earnest, until after the UFO comment.



posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 08:38 PM
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I highly doubt it was the mention of UFO stuff.

Greer already published a bunch of classified UFO documents years ago and there was no big media spectacle, no death threats, no rape charges, no arrests.

You guys didn't get any serious heat coming down on you when you were talking about posting your big stash of UFO documents, right? (Or...... did you??
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posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 08:42 PM
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Perhaps he is guilty of the charges against him, and you're defending a rapist because it suits your own ideals on "fighting the good fight" and your own paranoid thoughts of cover ups and misinformation.



posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 10:06 PM
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I'm thinking there is a GREAT fear of disclosure - not Banking Crisis more than UFO's or vice versa.

It's all dirty deceit - and TPTB do NOT want us to know how well, deeply and thoroughly we have been truly ...fuddled.



posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 11:04 PM
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Interesting theory, but maybe a coincidence of timing that is giving the illusion of a relationship. After all, all of this hubbub could have been set into motion after Assange announced that he was essentially going to take down a bank and only came to fruition a few days later. Or perhaps too many people were being blackmailed behind the scenes.

I don't think anything of import is going to come of any UFO releases as Assange seems to look very derisively upon the subject matter. Rather, I think that he may have realized how many people were hoping to see some UFO leaks and is playing to the masses.



posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 12:25 AM
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Maybe I'm wrong, but the main thing all these leaks seem to say to me is that politicians are elected/selected on their ability to lie..

No country has denied these leaks to be true so I must assume they are all real......

Therefore, that's what stands out !!!
They ALL lie........

Is that not enough proof of what kind of people we have running every aspect of our lives?
If they can so easily LIE to world leaders, what are they lieing to us about????

Wikileaks is just showing the world for what it trully is.
Run by liars....



posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 12:33 AM
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well but how he gets this scary-paranoid info???..why not say he is just telling pranks on goverments??? I THINK somebody has given credit to all of this as true. But is it not the common knowledge that most of the info on the net is 99.99% false??,,,yes that is the breaking news. ...OR IS IT??



posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 12:43 AM
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perhaps he should be arrested so that he can spill all the highly doomsday secret to the world like he said he would.
I don't like the fact that he is withholding the documents to himself while hiding it from the world.

If he has something significant to reveal, then do it... if not...then >SNIP< off please.

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