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Originally posted by Otamad
reply to post by Crakeur
Hey, great thread but I have another question. Why do you think the media has allowed coverage of WikiLeaks? This has puzzled me. If this whole scandal is as serious as we think it is, why has the government and media allowed for it to take place, unless they might use it to their advantage somehow. Thoughts anyone?
Originally posted by Crakeur
reply to post by Blazer
If they jail him for life or he accidentally trips over a pencil and dies, wikileaks will still be around but who, in their right mind, would take his place? If you were there and something happened to him, would you want to continue working there?
Originally posted by nevertolate
reply to post by romanmel
The web has been the only way I have been able to see what is really happening,, I can understand why they want it changed. This is our only way if policing them and getting the real info out, they are going to use any means they can think of to change it to their control,,, don't be fooled.
Originally posted by CrakeurSo, I'm wondering, is our government so afraid of what might be in those future releases that they tightened the screws on everyone to ensure that Assange is taken into custody, hopefully removing the risk of disclosure?
Originally posted by nevertolate
reply to post by Section31
They are the ones who made and sent the cables so they know what is in them. There must be something or all this would not be such a big deal.
Originally posted by strangleholder1I don't know about poker but Julian Assange and Wikileaks are the real deal, LONG LIVE ANONYMOUS!...
Originally posted by Crakeur
I know, another wikileaks thread but I'm going to take a different tact here. We've all been following along, watching and reading about the leaks, learning that (shocker) our government spies on it's allies and we learned that (surprise surprise) everyone in the middle east wants the US to attack Iran and we learned that (really?) China is fed up with Kim Jong Il and North Korea.
Still, very little happened, other than leaders cried foul.
Then Assange hinted that, in early 2011, he would release documents regarding the banking crisis that might bring down a very large bank still operating in the US.
Now, he has also released documents and footage prior to the current dump and all that has happened has been rhetoric from the US government about how this is endangering lives and how it is a security threat and blah blah blah.
Then, in an interview, someone asks about ufos and Assange says that he gets stuff all the time but it always seems to be nonsense with no evidence other than self produced stuff. He goes on the say that, in the near future, ufos will be mentioned in his leaks.
Then Amazon shuts him down.
Paypal shuts him down
Nations start blocking wikileaks
The ridiculous charges against him are pressed, an apb is put out and the pressure mounts to the point that he actually turns himself in.
So, I'm wondering, is our government so afraid of what might be in those future releases that they tightened the screws on everyone to ensure that Assange is taken into custody, hopefully removing the risk of disclosure?
Originally posted by schuyler
It seems to me that WikiLeaks is in the academy of the over-rated. Like the OP says, there's not much new here. It amounts to diplomatic gossip. And Julius, bless his soul, is about as egotistical a person as you can find. WikiLeaks is all about him, and what he is is not all that much. He must be disappointed because aside from some isolated ATS hero worship, most people are not liking him very well. The governments are moaning and groaning, but there's been nothing earth-shattering revealed. Assange suggesting Obama "should resign" is just comical. My barber thinks so, too.
This idea of a "poison pen" file of REALLY bad stuff, as opposed to the "merely bad stuff that really isn't all that bad' he has already released is, I think a lot of hot air. He has shown no restraint so far and I think he has already let out his best stuff. Remember that he has done this before.u Even his 'critical places' list is a yawner. Wow! Tin mines in China are vulnerable. The Straits of Malacca are crucial! Any terrorist worth his 72 virgins has a better list than that.
The UFO angle is just more proof the Assange personality cult is going off the deep end. Now even more people will dismiss him as a nutcase. I do believe the governments have said, "Shut this guy down," because they are paranoid secret freaks anyway. This explains the monetary freeze now on him.
So overall I'm thinking he's getting way more media attention than he deserves.
Originally posted by Section31
Originally posted by strangleholder1I don't know about poker but Julian Assange and Wikileaks are the real deal, LONG LIVE ANONYMOUS!...
Since Assange is a prideful and confident computer hacker, he gets off on the excitement of having power. That is why he had sex with four different people in Sweden. Even though the allegations may be minor, the act of sex is a primal and physical expression of power. When he sees his power slipping slightly, Assange will make a comment (or have sex) to regain or gather more power. UFOs anyone? Lol... He is only bluffing, so he can maintain power.
Is the United States afraid of Assange, I seriously don't think they are moved by him in that manner. Since the information being released happened under the Obama Administration, I think they are more embraced than afraid. If they didn't show concern publicly, they would have lost the faith of the people they protect. United States citizens (like everyone else) would feel insecure with the present administration; there, the government had no choice but to come out in front of this matter.edit on 8-12-2010 by Section31 because: (no reason given)edit on 8-12-2010 by Section31 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by strangleholder1
Is that how you see the world? Having sex with people means you like power? I'm not sure about that assumption, perhaps! you're having sex wrong...
Originally posted by Crakeur
Originally posted by TheAmused
I will have to disagree with ya on this one.
He was charged with rape before these last release's.
yes, he was but the charges were originally dismissed and then brought back (before the leaks or the ufo comment). He was wanted for the crime but, only after the ufo comment, was the red tag issued and the apb put out over interpol