posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 11:31 PM
reply to post by nite owl
You are very off topic here. However, I know about all the areas in that youtube video and none of them are very secret. Secure yes, but not secret.
Hellendale is the Lockheed facility. You can see it in the "Battle of the X Planes" from Nova. Tom Mahood went well out of his way to show the
facility isn't sinister, just a RCS, one of many in the US. The test article does rise from underground, but that is just to frustrate yahoos like me
that go snooping there, plus keep the article hidden from aircraft that like to detour over the facility to see what's cooking. There is security
there for sure. There is an automated guard shack of sorts on the south side of the facility that looks very "robo copish." Basically lots of
cameras so that they can see who you are without actually manning it.
The Northrup facility is a bit harder to snoop on, but not impossible. To my knowledge, it doesn't have the underground pylon scheme. If they did,
the pylons wouldn't be visible all the time.
In the mix of images, they showed the two General Atomics UAV facilities. El Mirage is for Army UAVs. Grey Butte is USAF and probably CIA is there, if
only for training. The Grey Butte facility is much more secure than El Mirage. For El Mirage, you park to the west of the aircraft junkyard, and you
can watch them fly UAVs. For Grey Butte, it is a bit harder to watch. There is no area really out of their watchful eye. The best thing is to hang
back a mile or so to the west and wait for something to fly, then swoop in and get a shot.
The other facility is Haystack Butte near Edwards. It might still be part of the base.It was to be used for the Venture Star reusable space craft, but
GW Bush killed the project as soon as he took office. [Golly, California ain't Texas. Why are we spending money there on a project Al Gore pushed.]
The land was ordered to be sold to prevent the project from coming back to life. Haystack Butte is very very visible from route 395 and also from
"the spot" at the back of Edwards.