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posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 12:10 AM
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LatAm gravitates toward Palestine


www.presstv.com

Uruguay says it will recognize an independent Palestinian state, following in the footsteps of Brazil and Argentina, which have officially recognized Palestine.
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posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 12:10 AM
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It has been a long wait, the wait is over, Israel is coming closer and closer to its extinction.

What does this news mean?

It means when the world recognizes an independent Palestinian state, and when the US collases, Israel won't be able to resist international pressure anymore.

There is a reason why they want to increase the pace of settlement expansions, that way they can occupy as much land as possible before Palestine becomes independent.

Israel, your time is up.

You can't exist with your current policies, the world has spoken, and your own ally is in decline trying to survive.

Good luck.

Thoughts.

oz

 



In a letter addressed to acting Palestinian Authority Chief Mahmoud Abbas, which was read out on Monday by Argentine Foreign Minister Hector Timerman, Argentine President Cristina Kirchner said her country recognizes Palestine as a "free and independent state" as defined by the 1967 borders.

On Friday, the Brazilian Foreign Ministry announced that Brasilia recognizes the Palestinian state within the 1967 borders.

In response, Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor said, "This regrettable decision will not help at all to change the situation between Israel and the Palestinians."

"It is a disappointing declaration which goes against the spirit of the agreements between Israel and the Palestinians and against negotiations for peace," he said.

Due to the renewed settlement building activities, the Palestinian Authority broke off the recently resumed direct talks. The PA said Tel Aviv had to freeze the construction and expansion of Jewish settler units or the talks could not continue.

But Israel refuses to cancel its recent decision to build 238 new Jewish settler units in East al-Quds and is also forging ahead with the construction of new units in settlements in other parts of the occupied territories.

The Palestinians say that the settlement activities are being carried out to prevent the establishment of an independent Palestinian state.



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posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 12:14 AM
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Related News:

Israel fears growing Palestine support



“Recognition of a Palestinian state is a violation of the interim agreement signed by Israel and the Palestinian Authority (PA) in 1995, which established that the status of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip will be discussed and solved through negotiations,” the Jerusalem Post quoted Israel's foreign ministry as saying in a statement late Monday.

The statement, which said that recognition of a Palestinian state also contradicted the road map, called it a regrettable move that would not help change the situation between Israel and the Palestinians.

“All attempts to bypass negotiations and to unilaterally determine issues in dispute will only harm the trust of the sides and their commitment to agreed frameworks for negotiations,” the statement read.

Argentina, Brazil and Uruguay have all sent letters to acting PA Chief Mahmoud Abbas during the past week, declaring the recognition of a free and independent Palestinian state within the 1967 borders.

The letters come amid US efforts to devise an economic-military package to 'bribe' Israel to renew a partial settlement freeze, which expired on September 26.

Tel Aviv's refusal to extend the 10-month moratorium enraged the PA negotiators who walked out of the US-sponsored direct talks launched three weeks earlier in Washington.

Israel has called on the countries which have recognized a Palestinian State to instead force Ramallah into returning to the negotiating table, what Palestinians fear could cost them more concessions in favor of Israel given Washington's influence on the PA and the talks.

A United Nations resolution demands the return of Palestinian territories which were occupied by Tel Aviv during the Six-Day War in 1967.

Over 100 countries have endorsed the Palestinians' 1988 unilateral declaration of independent statehood.






Israel is crying because it can't get what it wants anymore, like a spoiled little kid.

Times up, over, finished, welcome back to reality, ohh there goes gravity ....



posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 12:21 AM
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What does this have at all to do with the “collapse of Israel”? So a few Latin American nations accept an independent and sovereign Palestinian State and this somehow equates to Israel’s eventual nonexistence?

Another question for you is how exactly is the United States of America going to collapse at any time in the near future? You can wish for anything you so choose but when you reenter reality it is clearly recognizable that the USA is not going anywhere.

Now in regards to the recognition of an independent Palestinian state I say congratulations as they rightfully deserve. Each people’s have the divine right to self-determination without being oppressed, subjugated, or occupied by any foreign entity. I do applaud the Latin American nations for standing up for their individual national interests on this divisive issue.



posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 12:40 AM
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Over 100 nations have joined together to recognize Palestine, that is a great step and shows support for the Palestinian cause, which the Zionists are against.

It is obvious that the Zionists who run the government of the stollen land doesn't want this.

What do they want>? They want the whole of Palestine, meaning the Biblical Israel to fullfil the prophecy, that is why they continuously expand settlements and bulldoze Palestinian homes.

Howdoes that equate to Israel demise>? Well since they wouldn't accept Palestine, nor would they recognize them, nor would they stop their illegal operations within Palestine, Israel will be working against the vast majority of International communies wishes and against International law.

The only country which has been saving Israel's a$$ for past decades is US.

US is obviously in decline, their economy is F'ed and they are stuck in Afghanistan, using borrowed money to pay for the war.

US collapse is imminent ----> Israel's collapse is imminent.

Even Zionist leaders admit that their survival lies in the hands of US.



posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 12:57 AM
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Originally posted by Misoir
reply to post by oozyism
 
Another question for you is how exactly is the United States of America going to collapse at any time in the near future? You can wish for anything you so choose but when you reenter reality it is clearly recognizable that the USA is not going anywhere.


You're right, we're just piling up debt on the new generation (me), destroying the dollar, destroying our liberties, destroying our constitution, destroying our economy, destroying our foreign relations....

Oh wait wait, I see how you meant that. You thought he meant the American continent would actually collapse into the planet and you're just saying that's not actually going to happen, that it won't be going anywhere.

Because anyone suggesting they're in reality and believes America is going to be here to stay for long, you're either going through a schizophrenic delusion, or you're on some very powerful hallucinogenic drugs.



posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 12:58 AM
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I will not argue the United States is going to enter a very trying period in its history there is absolutely 0% chance that it will either collapse or enter the brink of near collapse.

As for Israel if they are to encounter such overwhelming support for a Palestinian state and it is finally recognized there will be no invasion or occupation. The elite in Israel would prefer to keep what they have instead of losing it all. Next time try and give them a little more credit.



posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 01:04 AM
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Originally posted by Misoir
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I will not argue the United States is going to enter a very trying period in its history there is absolutely 0% chance that it will either collapse or enter the brink of near collapse.

That is exactly what USSR thought, but they collapsed, and it looks like US is in the same exact situation.



As for Israel if they are to encounter such overwhelming support for a Palestinian state and it is finally recognized there will be no invasion or occupation. The elite in Israel would prefer to keep what they have instead of losing it all. Next time try and give them a little more credit.


Israel won't collapse while US is still around, so it doesn't really matter even if Israel invades and occupies Lebanon then expand its settlements inside Lebanon. As long as US is around, Israel will continue its illegal and inhumane activities.



posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 01:07 AM
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Originally posted by oozyism



As for Israel if they are to encounter such overwhelming support for a Palestinian state and it is finally recognized there will be no invasion or occupation. The elite in Israel would prefer to keep what they have instead of losing it all. Next time try and give them a little more credit.


Israel won't collapse while US is still around, so it doesn't really matter even if Israel invades and occupies Lebanon then expand its settlements inside Lebanon. As long as US is around, Israel will continue its illegal and inhumane activities.


I love how the US is always blamed solely for Israel's prevalence and authority. We're just their current bodyguards. And the leeches sucking America dry right now will be long gone by the time the body dies.



posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 01:09 AM
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The leeches need a new body to survive.

Who will the Zionist regime of the stolen land start sucking and control next?

Europe is also waking up against the Zionist regime.

Africa/SouthAmerica/Asia is already against Zionist illegal and inhuman activities.



posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 01:46 AM
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Israel's government had already accepted a future Palestinian state. Many issues are being addressed in recent negotiations. The recognition of Latin America is meaningless.
These Latin countries hide a sack of hidden viper snakes. They were the most notorious countries for accepting Nazi war criminals, some of them responsible for the murder of millions.
To this day, they did not admit nor express remorse.
Argentina holds a very dark past she wishes to keep hidden. Argentinians however do not forget the atrocities of its regime, let alone the fact that several terror groups are working there freely. They have no moral ground what so ever to have a say on anything concerning the middle east.

Grasp at straws oozy.

Anyway, there is already a thread on that issue.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Where you not given enough attention for several hours, that you needed to open another thread with your pre written scripts?



posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 01:50 AM
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Originally posted by oozyism
reply to post by SpectreDC
 


The leeches need a new body to survive.

Who will the Zionist regime of the stolen land start sucking and control next?

Europe is also waking up against the Zionist regime.

Africa/SouthAmerica/Asia is already against Zionist illegal and inhuman activities.


Your last post sounds like pure anti Semitic propaganda of the worst kind. The only thing missing is a caricature of a Jew with big nose.
Are you sure you want to continue walking this path, or are you going to put one of your idiotic emoticons and blame me for pulling the AS card?



posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 01:52 AM
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Over a hundred countries already recognize Palestine./



Once US collapses, Israel will be gone, because no one in the world likes the Zionist regime of the stolen land.

Who else needs VETOes from the big daddy to save their a hole every time



posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 01:53 AM
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reply to post by gravitational
 


Oh darn, already Anti-Semite hahahahahah

Palestinians are Semites too



posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 01:59 AM
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even the Olympics Association recognise "Palestine" as an independant nation hence why they are allowed their own team to enter - or did'nt anyone notice?



posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 02:04 AM
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The US and Israel is fine. NOONE is going to collapse, either literally or metaphorically. I agree it is a good step by independant and aligned nations.

The question is, do they have the cojones to deal with this newly recognized state? Will they send a relief convoy with heads of state escorted by their navy? Will they establish an Embassy or at least a liasions office?

I say show up with your navy and say, "excuse me IDF, please step out of the way we need to conduct business with this state."
Then just park em there with air defense and leave the systems activated for a distressed state. No more bombs from the sky.

Can the citizens of GAZa have at least that? Can they have some relief from Jets flying low over the neighborhood and dropping bombs frequently? Can they live maybe at least a year without worrying about death from above?


Then we'll work on the automated killing machines lined up along the perimeter that murder civilians scavenging for supplies on their own land.
edit on 12/7/2010 by DYepes because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 02:05 AM
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The countries encourge each other to have + action.
welldone, but too late.
Israel continue to consider UN as if not present. It kills wenever it wants !



posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 02:40 AM
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Originally posted by gravitational

Originally posted by oozyism
reply to post by SpectreDC
 


The leeches need a new body to survive.

Who will the Zionist regime of the stolen land start sucking and control next?

Europe is also waking up against the Zionist regime.

Africa/SouthAmerica/Asia is already against Zionist illegal and inhuman activities.


Your last post sounds like pure anti Semitic propaganda of the worst kind. The only thing missing is a caricature of a Jew with big nose.
Are you sure you want to continue walking this path, or are you going to put one of your idiotic emoticons and blame me for pulling the AS card?


Oh bull#, he didn't say anything about the Jewish faith or Jews in general. This is exactly why things have gotten so bad is people like you proclaiming legit observations and issues with a very detrimental country and group of powerful people as racist. Your moronic propaganda doesn't fly with me.



posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 09:13 PM
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For those who doubt the coming collapse of American empire or an end to its ability to bully international compliance to its foreign interventionist policies, I recommend The Decline and Fall of the American Empire Four Scenarios for the End of the American Century by 2025, By Alfred W. McCoy.


Despite the aura of omnipotence most empires project, a look at their history should remind us that they are fragile organisms. So delicate is their ecology of power that, when things start to go truly bad, empires regularly unravel with unholy speed: just a year for Portugal, two years for the Soviet Union, eight years for France, 11 years for the Ottomans, 17 years for Great Britain, and, in all likelihood, 22 years for the United States, counting from the crucial year 2003.
paragraph 2

My impression is that this article is a bit on the optimistic side as to possible outcomes. While it is probably true that the U.S. can still save itself as a viable democratic nation living within its borders and guided by principles of rule of law and equal human rights, it seems rather obvious that it is sticking to the doctrine adopted during the Clinton administration of "One and only world super-power willing to do everything necessary to maintain that position". A rather black or white doctrine; rule the world or bring the world down with it, since there are no other options offered by the doctrine.

It would be very interesting to see what the outcome would be in the U.S. if this doctrine was presented to the general public as a referendum. Unfortunately for the world, the U.S. operates under pay to play politics, so the biggest payers in terms of money and special favor set the agenda.

Likewise in the current so-called Jewish State of Israel, though growing numbers of citizens would be content to accept internationally recognized borders ie "green line", the payers/players are still of a more radical opinion of "Eretz Israel and no peace without it". This is the ideology of those who are behind the Settler movement and pushing out of Palestine of all things not Jewish. Much of the funding for the political clout of this ideology does come from the U.S. The political cover in international bodies eg U.N. for the status quo of dwindling Palestinian human rights, land, water, and viability is definitely given by the US diplomatic corps.

As dwindles US imperial clout, so goes radical settler movement clout. We shall see if the Empire will transition into a normal democratic nation and also if the so-called Jewish State of Israel will transition from ethnocracy into a multi cultural democracy.



posted on Dec, 11 2010 @ 10:06 PM
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I read that article, and frankly it sounds like more of a Tom Clancy novel than anything truly likely to happen. Well the military scenarios particularly. It was a rather comical read frankly. Thats about as likely to become as that new video game called "homeFront" where a United Korea invades the continental US. Just plain silly.



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