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Originally posted by XPLodER
reply to post by Giovannetti44
"how would they justify putting people in these camps?"
Thats funny! This is what we've been saying.They do not need or are required by any means...to justify. Under Marshall Law, the Patriot Act, Homeland and TSA Security rules and even the CDC (disease control) and any number of bio, chemo, natural or un-natural reasoning...they can "detain" us for "processing".
Individual rights suspended.
Originally posted by MikeNice81
It is unrealistic to suppose that the military or the police are going to herd people into prison camps, unless there is a very compelling reason - and why? - just to execute them!?
I keep reading this on ATS. Let me tell everybody something, it is exactly what you should expect. All you have to do is look at Germany during Hitler's reign. Look at what happened under Stalin, Mao, and other dictators. It is not hard to get the military to act in the way it is ordered.
How many police officers raided houses to drag undesirable German citizens from their homes? What was the purpose of the maniacal arrests? It was to ship off people to work in concentration camps. It was to send people to their death. Millions of Jews, Gypsies, Homosexuals, Disabled, and undesirable people were destroyed. The police and military lead the round ups against their fellow citizens.
You have to remember that the soldiers are trained to see the military as a brotherhood joined against all that threaten their government. Then they are taught to follow orders under the threat of jail or death. As the are trained they are constantly told that they are the line between America's continuance and the end of the republic. So you have a group of guys that believe they are the saviors of the nation, but they must follow orders or face harsh consequences. Plus they are told that disobeying orders could get their "brothers" killed.
Now who are they going to protect? Are they going to protect me and you? Don't you think that protecting their own rear and their brothers will be more important? Would you be more likely to protect a stranger or the person you have lived, slept, ate, and trained with for the last four years?
The military and the police have their own priorities and I wouldn't expect them to line up with mine if TSHTF.
Don't over estimate the general populace's willingness to help out either. Remember we had internment camps for Asians during WWII. It was actually a pretty popular idea among non asians across the country. National security required that we isolate these people. We didn't want to risk them being spys or sabateurs. Once the propaganda was in full swing Americans threw their full support behind the measure.
So, don't think that the police, military, or general populace will be there to rescue you. Don't expect them to stand up. If you want to resist and remain free, in such a situation, you better be prepared to fight like a cornered cat.
reply to post by JohhnyBGood
edit on 7-12-2010 by MikeNice81 because: (no reason given)edit on 7-12-2010 by MikeNice81 because: (no reason given)
IN NOVEMBER, 1918, Marxist organizations seized the executive power by means of a revolution. The monarchs were dethroned, the authorities of the Reich and of the States removed from office, and thereby a breach of the Constitution was committed. The success of the revolution in a material sense protected the guilty parties from the hands of the law. They sought to justify it morally by asserting that Germany or its Government bore the guilt for the outbreak of the War.
This assertion was deliberately and actually untrue. In consequence, however, these untrue accusations in the interest of our former enemies led to the severest oppression of the entire German nation and to the breach of the assurances given to us in Wilson's fourteen points, and so for Germany, that is to say the working classes of the German people, to a time of infinite misfortune....
The splitting up of the nation into groups with irreconcilable views, systematically brought about by the false doctrines of Marxism, means the destruction of the basis of a possible communal life.... It is only the creation of a real national community, rising above the interests and differences of rank and class, that can permanently remove the source of nourishment of these aberrations of the human mind. The establishment of such a solidarity of views in the German body corporate is all the more important, for it is only thereby that the possibility is provided of maintaining friendly relations with foreign Powers without regard to the tendencies or general principles by which they are dominated, for the elimination of communism in Germany is a purely domestic German affair.
I can say with pride, comrades of the SA and SS, that if the whole German people now was possessed of the spirit which is in us and in you, then Germany would be indestructible. Even without arms, Germany would represent an unheard-of strength through this inner will tempered like steel.