Wikileaks and ATS are deceiving YOU!, page 5


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reply posted on 6-12-2010 @ 12:54 PM by lbndhr
reply to post by TheTruthIsFromGod



You are probably right, however true believers of the end time will know what is happening and not be fooled.
peace to us all we need it



reply posted on 6-12-2010 @ 12:56 PM by kallisti36
Interesting thread. I have been suspicious of wikileaks since it started being publicized. If they were a real threat to the government and not a pawn in the game, then why weren't they secretly obliterated?

As for "ATS lying to us", if you are a conspiracy theorist that's pretty obvious. ATS isn't as underground as many of us would like to believe and you can bet if the government is half as nefarious as many of us believe, they have dozens if not hundreds of disinformation agents. No reason to throw the bugout pack out with the listening devices There are plenty of genuine people on ATS.

Now on to your anti-christ theory; also very well done. Raj Patel would be an excellent Anti-Christ (there are many anti-christs, but then there is the Anti-Christ) candidate, because he's such a worldly figure. You know, socialist but not quite and being spiritual while also being as far removed from any religion as you can get.

Now what's wrong with your prediction. First of all: the Messiah and the Anti-Christ are NOT two sides of the same coin, they are not nickle and nickle with different carvings, they are Christ and Anti-Christ. Also, to be perfectly honest, you lose credibility with me for being Muslim. I have no problem, however, with good hearted, pious, Muslims who would never dream of blowing up a bus. To better make my point, I'm going to reverse something Ghandi said: I like your Muslims (not the jihadists), but I do not like your prophet. Because of this, I believe your viewpoint on the matter may be skewed and I won't accept any scripture supposedly proving Raj Patel as the Anti-Christ unless it's from Jewish or Christian scripture.
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reply posted on 6-12-2010 @ 12:59 PM by lbndhr
Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
Originally posted by Gemwolf
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


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Interestingly enough your thread made it to the front page under Current Member Picks... I'm just curious as to how this fits into the whole theory of ATS, Satan and "promoting threads" to hide the truth about WW3 and Wikileaks? Does this confirm the earlier suggestion that you are actually "a puppet for Satan" by having your thread on the front page?

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.


It's the first time that one of my threads get so many flags, inspite of the fact that the topic of my other threads is supposed to be much more popular: the emergence of Maitreya (Raj Patel). Curious coincidence, isn't it?

In my opinion, it just confirms what I am saying in this thread.

I do not know the unknown, I cannot see what you're really doing in secret, no matter.... It's just curious that I get so many flags specifically for this thread....I won't produce specific accusations without proofs.

I repeat that I am not accusing you personally, all I know is that as long as your profile goes with ATS politic, you'll do the job for them exactly like they want, and if one day, you become "a different person", you'll see their true face... You don't even know the persons you're working for, have at least the honesty to recognize it. You, mods, are not free, you're just following the instructions of your chiefs.

My best proof for those who have still eyes is to invite them to watch your top topics over some months and they'll see that the topics which reach the front page are not random. In addition, it's rare that the information which is spread in your top topics turn to be true....In other world, that's called propaganda.

I have a extremely difficult time believing ATS is part of the satan reign. Your thread is great but come on.
peace to us all we need it


reply posted on 6-12-2010 @ 01:00 PM by andrewh7
reply to post by TheTruthIsFromGod



Satan and God don't exist. Organized religion is just another way to control the masses and drain their wallets through fear. By seeing "evil" as some kind of external force, it allows mankind to avoid taking personal responsibility for routinely breaking the morals that we invented and imposed on ourselves. Good people die and bad guys prosper because we're on our own down here. God isn't going to solve your problems. That's why we have laws, police, courts, and jails. Our system is imperfect, just like the people who made it. If something's wrong, you have to fight to change it. Prayer accomplishes nothing - it's an encouraged delusion to discourage you from actually doing something.

There's no magical sky wizard. It's time to grow-up.
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reply posted on 6-12-2010 @ 01:07 PM by lbndhr
Originally posted by andrewh7
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post by TheTruthIsFromGod



Satan and God don't exist. Organized religion is just another way to control the masses and drain their wallets through fear. By seeing "evil" as some kind of external force, it allows mankind to avoid taking personal responsibility for routinely breaking the morals that we invented and imposed on ourselves. Good people die and bad guys prosper because we're on our own down here. God isn't going to solve your problems. That's why we have laws, police, courts, and jails. Our system is imperfect, just like the people who made it. If something's wrong, you have to fight to change it. Prayer accomplishes nothing - it's an encouraged delusion to discourage you from actually doing something.

There's no magical sky wizard. It's time to grow-up.
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There are numerous books to back a creator, there a refew to deny a creator....proof would be nice to bring such a post, I accept all views a view is a view. a opinion is an opinion
peace to us all we need it


reply posted on 6-12-2010 @ 01:27 PM by NeoAstra
Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
Wikileaks does not serve the interests of one guy (Soros is just a puppet among many others), it's rather a much more powerful system which is behind Wikileaks and it serves a much higher purpose.

Satan and his fiends, who control the governments and the economy of this world, have staged these leaks (even if most of them are indeed genuine) and have focused on some of them more particularly.

The main info which has been leaked is about Iran/North Korea and Nuclear bombs, it is a psy-ops to prepare the people's mind about the coming Middle-East war which will quickly trig the beginning of the WW3, and religion will be blamed. The WW3, like WW1 and WW2 were, will be totaly staged.

The world leaders are all puppets of Satan, each one is in charge of a country but they are all part of Satan's crew. Ahmadinejad, Obama, Netanyahu, Sarkozy, Merkel, Ban Ki Moon, Medevedev/Putine.... are all serving the same master: Satan.

The goal behind this is to make the people accept the One world (non) religion of Maitreya/Raj Patel (Satan's First Lieutenant on earth, aka the antichrist or the Messiah: 2 faces of the same head) and to permit the staged landing of the so called Aliens (who are no more than devils), who will come as saviors (just like the US was introduced as a savior after WW2). This is all about deceiving you and stealing your souls...

Money is nothing, terrestrial power is ephemere,... the devils are aware of that and that's why your soul is much more important for them.

ATS is also part of this scheme, they are also puppets of Satan and are promoting this kind of thread in order to lose you once for all. You can be sure that any important media is under the control of Satan and his puppets (illuminatis and other secret societies).
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hmmm.. well i cannot say i agree good sir..
now, if you were to provide me with definitive evidence that satan is at work here,
and/or these men you mention are his "tools"
Well, i would just like to know how ATS is a puppet of satan
implying this, you seem to be under the impression that we are all puppets of satan
well i can assure you i am not, and i can assure you ATS is not.


reply posted on 6-12-2010 @ 01:35 PM by Gemwolf
Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
It's the first time that one of my threads get so many flags..In my opinion, it just confirms what I am saying in this thread.

Uhm... No it's not. It's saying the exact opposite.

And I'm just as dumbfounded as you - looking at the amount of flags... Interesting social experiment if you ask me. Are people mocking you? Are people trying to prove you wrong by flagging the thread and getting your thread on the front page? Or do people actually like the thread?

I do not know the unknown, I cannot see what you're really doing in secret, no matter.... It's just curious that I get so many flags specifically for this thread....I won't produce specific accusations without proofs.


Why not? That's what you've been doing from your very first post in this thread. As a matter of fact you even do it in the title... "Wikileaks and ATS are deceiving YOU!" ... "Proofs" please? All I'm seeing are accusations and no "proofs"...

I repeat that I am not accusing you personally, all I know is that as long as your profile goes with ATS politic, you'll do the job for them exactly like they want, and if one day, you become "a different person", you'll see their true face... You don't even know the persons you're working for, have at least the honesty to recognize it. You, mods, are not free, you're just following the instructions of your chiefs.


Again... You have no idea of how ATS works. Especially not behind the scenes. Your statement(s) are highly speculative. Unless you've seen what goes on in the moderator's forum making a wild statement such as "you, mods, are not free etc." is laughable.

My best proof for those who have still eyes is to invite them to watch your top topics over some months and they'll see that the topics which reach the front page are not random. In addition, it's rare that the information which is spread in your top topics turn to be true....In other world, that's called propaganda.


Here you go. A summation of all the top topics over several time intervals. Would it be OK for me to give you some of the top topics and request an explanation on how they fit into Satan's plan...?

I'm guessing that you actually believe yourself. I'm just curious - and this question has been asked and ignored many times in this thread: Why are YOU on ATS?
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reply posted on 6-12-2010 @ 01:39 PM by MITSwagger
reply to post by TheTruthIsFromGod



You not only incorporated the movie "12 Monkeys" into your lame thread but you even quoted some lines from "The Men that stare at goats".

A mod should junk this thread.

:Those who don't use the Alert button to summon a deletion of this thread are clinically insane.:
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reply posted on 6-12-2010 @ 01:59 PM by thecinic
Originally posted by MITSwagger
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post by TheTruthIsFromGod



You not only incorporated the movie "12 Monkeys" into your lame thread but you even quoted some lines from "The Men that stare at goats".

A mod should junk this thread.

:Those who don't use the Alert button to summon a deletion of this thread are clinically insane.:
edit on 6-12-2010 by MITSwagger because: Those who don't use the Alert button to summon a deletion of this thread are clinically insane.

Are you part of the ATS police squad now??

Wikileaks has now been caught selling their information... That to only better themselves off this "free" information. They don't care about our well being nor do they care about free information...
www.wnd.com...


reply posted on 6-12-2010 @ 02:01 PM by oaf21
reply to post by TheTruthIsFromGod



C'mon, man! You're really being the epitome of the paranoid Conspiracy Theorist right now... and I honestly don't mean that in a bad way. I just hope to maybe help you see things a little differently.

Yes, it's common knowledge (at least among ATSers) that the media controls everything, and its all propaghanda to get keep the "sheeple" in line, and politicians are all puppets... blah blah blah. These stories don't surprise us anymore... at least not me anyway. Like a lot of people, I've reached the point that its gotten tiresome pointing all of this out that we're far better off concentrating our energies on trying to find a solution to the problem.

How can I put this... I assume you're aware of the concept of "Rule 34" right (Google it, if not!)? Well, the same applies to Conspiracy Theories (IMO, anyway). If the related material exists, there's most DEFINITELY a conspiracy about it, somewhere. And that's exactly how TPTB are winning. They create an impenetrable fortress of doubt which causes everyone to run around like headless chickens, trying to find the tiniest thread of truth.

This is why its absolutely imperative to sit back and think rationally before calling "conspiracy" on a given subject.

Ask yourself this: If you were right, and there was indeed a conspiracy at ATS, would "they" have allowed your post to be one of the most viewed posts today?
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