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posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 07:33 PM
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Some christians believe the point of a Christ was to have an example of what being GOD"S champion of TRUTH was like so they could emulate him and slay Lucifer. Christs even went to Hell to retrieve something or someone once I believe and he even spoke to the devil on a mountain, so a site wouldnt have been far feteched for Jesus to dominate.

Email everyone a piece of 1 fish and feed us the multitude lol. Aww man Im out of control right now this thread is so dumb right now. I must retire to my quarters.... Twitter! peace



Originally posted by new_here

"ATS is also part of this scheme, they are also puppets of Satan and are promoting this kind of thread..."


Umm... since you started this thread doesn't that sort of make you part and parcel to Satan's plan???


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posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 07:33 PM
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As much as I disagree with the OP. I like where this thread turned into with the whole debate on God, Religion, and stuff like that.

I'll address the Wikileaks issue first. I've weighed the options of WL being NWO or not and I'm quite certain after watching Wikileaks for a year now that they are trustworthy. Now the TPTB might be leak them stuff that is true but not complete Earth Shattering. Would you rather get a view of the world through filtered and distorted news and would you rather get a clear view on what the world really is like. Even though the gov't might leak what people might perceive as news nothing new, it is painting a picture of the world from the eye of the U.S. government without being presented with a biased agenda. I think the biggest thing about the leaks is they prove that the government tells the public that they are doing one thing while they are doing the other.

Personally I don't believe in a NWO, I believe in a Puppet Government. I use to believe in the vast NWO conspiracy but I think it is a concept of the past that we must stop personifying so much. When you think that everything is a conspiracy you don't have a sound argument for everyone else. Sense the world is in need of drastic change that will rely on people like us informing our peers, we can't go inform our peers saying that the world is in a New World Order run by some dual Illuminati-Masonic Conspiracy, they just won't listen. If you want to know how to properly assess the situation in a way that others will listen to you READ THIS.

As for the Jesus and God stuff. Have you hear the phrase Jesus Christ Was Right But Your Interpretation of His Teachings Is Wrong? Original Christianity contained a lot of Buddhist and Hindu Philosophy that was declared Non-Canoncal by the Catholic Church and The Church of England.

For one example think of Heaven and Hell as Mind States. If you "accept" Jesus in your life then you, in theory, should model yourself after Christ in every aspect of your life. This type of life style will attract better vibrations towards you and thus you will be Enlightened or in Heaven. If you live your life cynical then you will attract Dukka and metaphorically speaking will live in Hell on Earth. For the whole Trinity thing look up the Hindu Doctrine of Brahman, Atman, and Maya or the Anatman and Interbeing Philosophy of Buddhism, all these are very similar. When you study those you understand, what I believe to be, the true meaning of the doctrine of the Trinity. Or it could just be Soul, Mind, and Body

For those that question God, read the I Ching, or The Tibetan Book of the Dead. For those that question the Afterlife read '___': The Spirit Molecule by Dr. Rick Strassman. After you study these books you can look at the Bible and find a lot more truth than you previously could.



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 07:42 PM
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I walk around with a T-Shirt: I'm with Satan



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 07:46 PM
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Thank you for the link to your thread and I know it will be an interesting read; also the post I am replying to. But Illuminati is real, maybe not as OMG as some ppl believe, but these killers of life in the name of satanic sacrifcial ritual are very real. The scope of the levels of power they have been revealed to have is large enough in scope to talk about and not conceal for fear of scaring away or pissing off weak minds and disbelievers.

Illuminati, as an actual group Adam Weishaupt May 1st 1776, but now as a category for occult elitists is real. There is enough proof or as they say where there is smoke there is fire". NWO is an actual goal of certain parties which has begun to meet conscious opposal. NWO is global socialism or Marxism some would say and has been stated by many people of great wealth/social position and power. The sources are in every forum on ATS and one only need to look.

But you are right there is way to speak about it that wont cause panic or outright anger and I hope to learn that shortly from your Thread. Of course after the Jets win this game which is about to being. Peace and I hope my friending doesnt offend you 1

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posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 07:54 PM
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Ya the thread was awesome, I believe in correlated perfectly. Like exactly where it was suppose to be.



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by IsraeliGuy
I'd like to ask for a single proof of a single worldly leader being a Satanist or participating in a Satanic ritual.

I will not take anything like a still photo of Clinton doing the "rock on" sign with his hands, as proof. It better be something stronger than that to fit in with your outrageous claims about Satan.

Please bring on the proofs.






Just a single one of the people you speak about.

Its quite weird, if you are blind its not my fault, its your own.

"A stone is heavy, and the sand weighty; but a fool's wrath is heavier than them both"

See it yet? You guys absolutely tear into the OP, albeit that he might be blunt and to an extreme. If he might be slightly right even, your still tearing his thread to shreads.

Im not saying the OP is completely correct but I am saying you are completely wrong
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posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 07:59 PM
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posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 08:00 PM
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Originally posted by thecinic
Assange might be possesed by satan. By putting lives in danger, the government plays it off as he got a speeding ticket. . He thinks that our country is an evil empire out to destroy the world and that it is his righteous duty to shed light on the world wide secrets and free the millions under the thumb of the evil United States.
This man is a dedicated enemy of the United States.
A United States so evil that it allows him to get away with this. Let’s ask ourselves some questions. Would China let wikileaks get away with this? Would Russia?


Even the mafia had a code of honor, yet they were still murderers of the highest caliber. Just because America does one thing and Russia another, doesn't mean that they both aren't countries of incredible sin. It just means that they have different agenda. America is calculative and Russia is more blunt. The same dichotomy could be demonstrated by our very own two party system, where Republicans are more blunt and Democrats more calculative...they both end up at the same killing grounds in the end though. There are many Freemasons that actually think they are doing God's will, yet it clearly says in the bible that you cannot get into heaven or gain God's favor by "great works" or as the Freemasons call it,...."the great work". Most freemasons "know not wat they do" because of intentional deception within the ranks and compartmentalization. the first 3 levels are akin to a flower shop in fron of a gangsters hideout.....just there to make the Freemasons look good through charities, as the ladder of hierarchy is traversed the information for the true nature of the beast is revealed, but only certain men are privy to these levels and the levels even higher are not even considered unless you are of a particular blood lineage. God doesn't care what a person/country does as it is only through the covenant of the blood of his son Jesus that any of us even stand a chance, "it is not through good works that man recieves salvation, lest any man should boast". The bible says that God is "no respecter of persons" meaning that He created all men, and gave them their manners and personalities and it is a gift that he gave YOU, not one you can give him back and say "here I made this for you, do I have your favor?".....not one that you can offer as something that you did for God that he had no control over. God only made major spiritual/future decisions with blood oaths and the last one was an offering by his own son, Jesus Christ. There is and will be no more blood oaths. Despite what many will be told soon, by the way, Jesus will not be here on earth parading around on news stations as Matreiya, or Buddah, or Allah or any other combination of any religeous figures. The bible says, that before he comes back there will be a rapture or that people will be "taken up in the twinkling of an eye". When Jesus does come back out of the East, with great glory and with his angels, he will be coming with a heated wrath and the whole world will tremble in fear. So, if you see a guy claiming to be Jesus, matraiya, buddah, Allah or any combination of any new spiritual leader who is here to save your soul. He is a liar! If you follow him, you will follow him into perdition for eternity. Back to Assange, I don't know who he works for or if he's good or bad, but, if America or any other country did nothing wrong and did no evils to other countries or country men..........then they should not worry so much about what he shows the world. Right???? Satan doesn't show truth.....he lies.....even when te truth sounds better.



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 08:01 PM
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I believe that the Illuminati is very real, but as you said, not to the extent to what people believe. I don't think that they have as much control as people let on. Democracy is still very active but the apathy of the voters is what allows for people like the Illuminati to take control. The Illuminati may still have power of how we think and influence governments but if people can realize the mediums in which they operate then we can essentially ignore them and boycott their "services."

I think a big key pointer to there being some type of Shadow Government is how other Democratic Nations always blindly support the U.S. like with this Wikileak Stuff. And how we are led to believe that China and the U.S. are economical rivals, maybe for the Proletariat but not for the Elite, they're business partners. China has Hundreds of Billions of U.S. Government Bonds and they're the biggest purchaser of Foreclosed Land in the U.S. We are closer allies with the Communist China than we are with the Federation of Russia. Oh and Also the Bilderberg group, I mean come on, all the worlds political / economical elites meeting in one place with no press releases and you're telling me that they're just getting together for coffee and a bagel, give me a break.



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 08:01 PM
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posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 08:07 PM
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Hell of a point, well written and well taken....

The mafia guys didn't kill women and children but they would kill a man who owed them 100 bucks and not think of their children and wives....

I don't know if raj patel is the exact antichrist, but I know when someone claims to be here to save us (assange) I don't think he really means it. Maybe some alternative motive behind the scenes of it all.



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 08:13 PM
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posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 08:18 PM
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Thanks Mod Edit... the following is not originally my quote, it's me quoting the OP:

Originally posted by new_here
"ATS is also part of this scheme, they are also puppets of Satan and are promoting this kind of thread..."

But this was my reply:

Umm... since you started this thread doesn't that sort of make you part and parcel to Satan's plan???

And this was a snippet from a response to the above...

Originally posted by fonenyc
Christ even went to Hell to retrieve something or someone once I believe and he even spoke to the devil on a mountain, so a site wouldnt have been far feteched for Jesus to dominate.

And last but not least, I gotta ask...
Satan promoting this kind of thread or Jesus? I am now thoroughly confused!



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posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 08:21 PM
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Most of us are confused so don't worry. You fit in perfectly.



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 08:23 PM
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Christ went to Sheol (the grave) and Hades (the temporary paradise side of hell before it was abandoned and the new paradise created), not to retrieve anynthing....but to wait for God and his assension into Heaven.
As for him talking to the Devil on a mountain.....I remember distinctly that this wasn't a chat between two old friends. It was Jesus who was weak from fasting, and the Devil trying to exploit that opportunity by tempting him and offering him all the kingdoms of the world, if he bows to him and worships him. Jesus, of course, said "get the hence, Satan" ,that is to say, leave me alone Satan...not interested. So, there is the missing parts of your post..........you're welcome.



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 08:27 PM
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