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"Obedience" Milgram's experiment shows people willing to torture so as to not disobey authority.

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posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 04:04 AM
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To summarize this test for those who cannot watch the videos provided what happened was two people drew a card both with ‘teacher’ on it however the one who claimed to be student was an actor. He is placed in a chair and will be administered shocks by the ‘teacher’ (the ordinary guy) for each answer he gets wrong in a word pair he is supposed to remember. Before the test begins the ‘learner’ (the actor guy) alerts the researcher and the teacher that he has a slight heart condition.

In a separate room the ‘teacher’ will ask the questions and administer the shocks if the wrong answer is provided. Now the ‘teacher’ can hear the man in the other room in pain from the shocks but the researcher (the authority figure) will tell the ‘teacher’ the following if the ‘teacher’ desires to halt the experiment:

1. Please continue
2. The experiment requires that you continue
3. It is absolutely essential that you continue
4. You have no other choice, you must go on

Usually around 135 volts the ‘teachers’ want to stop the experiment and check on the ‘learner’ that is when they are given the statements above. If the ‘teacher’ refuses to continue the experiment after the four warnings the experiment ends however those who continue will administer 450 volts three consecutive times.

Please Note: The ‘learner’ is not actually being electrocuted at any moment in this experiment.

The results showed 65% (26 of 40) administered the full 450 volts even though they showed much discomfort.

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Here are other results from separate studies across the world.

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What this shows to me is that people are willing to administer severe pain upon another person even during an experiment simply because they refuse to defy the wishes of authority. It is absolutely incredible the level of manipulation, obedience, and brainwashing humans are capable of accepting. This is a true testament to the ethics of mankind and it has failed that test miserably.

No wonder so many people cannot leave ‘the herd’ they are afraid of defying authority.




posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 04:16 AM
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In conjunction with this experiment are experiments which demonstrate that, under group pressure, a person will deny his or her own reality.

A group is set up in which everyone in the group is a plant except one person. The group is then shown, for example, a picture of two lines or two objects, one of which is obviously shorter or smaller than the other. All of the people who have been planted in the group then vociferously argue that the shorter line or the smaller object is, in fact, the longer line and the larger object. They then heap abuse and all manner of accusations against the person in the group who perceives things differently.

Don't have any specific figures, but in the vast majority of cases, the person who perceives things accurately ultimately denies his or her own reality in favor of the group's perspective of reality.

This is the reason for polls so widely publicized by the media.

All you have to do is convince people that most people believe a certain thing and the minority will, more than likely, adopt the majority position if given sufficient 'grief' because of their resistance.

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posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 04:17 AM
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Very nice.

I saw this recently on a show of a british guy doing tricks on people.

I found the expirement very interesting, and it raises the question: How many of us will do something, just because a guy in a white coat tells you do something.?

Rather scary if you think about it.

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posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 04:59 AM
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Kinda proves the point the absolute power corrupts absolutely.

It takes true strength to act with morality against a force you are aligned with, than to act with impunity for it.

It's just peer group pressure, en masse. We'll never be free of it.




posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 06:38 AM
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Nothing new. This was already known since the Nazis.



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 11:32 PM
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It is possibly a new idea to a lot of people whom might be interested.



posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 02:01 AM
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edit on 12/7/2010 by this_is_who_we_are because: typo


PS
That was a terrible live performance. Here's the fabulous album version from the 1986 album titled "So". (Cute little rabbits in the homemade video by the way)

edit on 12/7/2010 by this_is_who_we_are because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 08:35 AM
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Ohh! We watched this in a psychology lesson.
Quite interesting that so many people succumb to authority figures higher than themselves, even if they dissagree with what there being made to do.
But the question is if this is a natural trait in humans or this has been implemented on us somehow.



posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 08:38 AM
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When they first did this experiment, they thought that like 0.1% of the community would shock people all the way, but a fairly large amount of people went all the way.
I would like to give you sources but i was told this by the psych teacher, you will probably find it somewhere though



posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by littlecloud
reply to post by VreemdeVlieendeVoorwep
 


When they first did this experiment, they thought that like 0.1% of the community would shock people all the way, but a fairly large amount of people went all the way.
I would like to give you sources but i was told this by the psych teacher, you will probably find it somewhere though



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