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Welsh Defence League links with neo-Nazis are unmasked

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posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 12:35 PM
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LOL ANYONE who believes the BBC in this kind of thing is an idiot! the BBC is the most left wing organization i know, apart from maybe the UAF. I joined the EDL in September last year, but quit quite soon after because they flew the Israeli flag showing there support for Israel, (because i hate Israel but that's another matter) so why would a 'fascist' and 'Neo-Nazi' organization show and Israeli flag? i have spoken to EDL SDL WDL members and have an account on the EDL forum, and trust me they are NOT a Nazi organization! the WDL are the same as the EDL but have Welsh instead of English in the name.
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posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 01:18 PM
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Originally posted by The Revenant
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I have no control over said Muslim extremists. I do have an input, and an element of control over my own society however - if I can't stop the bad guy Muslim extremists, I can certainly stop the bad guy white-fascists.

Rev.


So the muslim extremists who live in the UK who support and at times take an active role in terrorist activities are outside of our society?
It is telling that you conveniently disregard them so off-handedly to justify your own bigotry.
You have as much, or as little control over them as you do 'the bad guy white-fascists'.

I have absolutely nothing in common with Nazi's and their odious beliefs but to condemn all EDL supporters on the basis of the beliefs of a few is naive and incorrect and as bad a gross generalisation as condemning all Muslims or supporters of UAF because of the beliefs and actions of a minority within their ranks.

It seems to me that far too many people apply one set of values when judging those of an opposite opinion than they do when judging those of a similar opinion.

Hypocrisy and double standards appear to be the order of the day.



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 01:20 PM
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w00t!

The resident fascists have turned up - finally....

Lefties this.... Marxists that.... blah blah blah. It's public knowledge now that the EDL and its' other versions are fascist, racist fronts for unintelligent and moronic bigots. I love that you both attack the source, the BEEB by suggesting that it's left wing prattle, even Marxist in its' intent.

Your arguments are hollow, your reasoning an epic fail. Give over.

Rev.



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 01:24 PM
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I will state for the record that I know from personal experience that NOT ALL members of the EDL and it's mirror organisations are racist, fascist scumbags. Just most of them.

Enjoy!



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by The Revenant
w00t!

The resident fascists have turned up - finally....

Lefties this.... Marxists that.... blah blah blah. It's public knowledge now that the EDL and its' other versions are fascist, racist fronts for unintelligent and moronic bigots. I love that you both attack the source, the BEEB by suggesting that it's left wing prattle, even Marxist in its' intent.

Your arguments are hollow, your reasoning an epic fail. Give over.

Rev.


As previously stated the BBC are the most left wing organisation out there so they are going to paint the EDL in a bad light.

You forget that they failed to provide coverage of the Muslims burning poppies on the day.

Also how is the EDL racist when there are a lot of asian members?

Do some research beforeyou believe everything the corrupt BBC tells you

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posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by The Revenant
I will state for the record that I know from personal experience that NOT ALL members of the EDL and it's mirror organisations are racist, fascist scumbags. Just most of them.

Enjoy!


Based on that statement I could counter reply by saying that Not all muslims are terrorists. just the majority...

See how stupid you sound



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 01:36 PM
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BBC? Left-wing? Seriously? I don't think so.

As for giving Muslims more bad press, I don't think they need it with the EDL about, so I don't see why the BBC would add to it.

As for commenting about the EDL etc, I infiltrated their organisation, as well as the political party most associated with them. Therefore I am uniquely qualified to be able to say that they are a bunch of racist loons, that (according to my experience) hate anything not white, snort a lot of coc aine, and generally act like unevolved primates. They are MOST DEFINITELY made up of different 'firms' and are out to cause trouble.

As for having LOTS of Asian members - give me names, and provable statistics. Seriously, I'd be interested to know what you base your opinions on.

Rev.



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by KingDoey
Based on that statement I could counter reply by saying that Not all muslims are terrorists. just the majority...

See how stupid you sound


If you DID state that, you'd be a racist scumbag - but as you didn't state that, you aren't!

The link doesn't work however - I'm not talking about an ethinc group here - you are. Therefore, yours is the racially bigoted approach, mine isn't.

Rev.



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by The Revenant
w00t!

The resident fascists have turned up - finally....

Lefties this.... Marxists that.... blah blah blah. It's public knowledge now that the EDL and its' other versions are fascist, racist fronts for unintelligent and moronic bigots. I love that you both attack the source, the BEEB by suggesting that it's left wing prattle, even Marxist in its' intent.

Your arguments are hollow, your reasoning an epic fail. Give over.

Rev.


Fascists this....Nazi's that.... blah, blah, blah.
Easy isn't it.

Why do people insist on labelling and pigeon holing both themselves and everyone around them?
Labelling is restrictive and stereotyping and prevents independant thought.

Not that that seems to be bother people much here anymore!


edit on 6/12/10 by Freeborn because: Add last sentence



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 01:40 PM
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Originally posted by The Revenant
reply to post by KingDoey
 


BBC? Left-wing? Seriously? I don't think so.

As for giving Muslims more bad press, I don't think they need it with the EDL about, so I don't see why the BBC would add to it.

As for commenting about the EDL etc, I infiltrated their organisation, as well as the political party most associated with them. Therefore I am uniquely qualified to be able to say that they are a bunch of racist loons, that (according to my experience) hate anything not white, snort a lot of coc aine, and generally act like unevolved primates. They are MOST DEFINITELY made up of different 'firms' and are out to cause trouble.

As for having LOTS of Asian members - give me names, and provable statistics. Seriously, I'd be interested to know what you base your opinions on.

Rev.


Sure you infiltrated them. And i suppose the political party that you claim is associated with them is the BNP.?

When the EDL hate the BNP, well done.

And yes there are football hooligans in the EDL. Heck i bet there are Muslim football hooligans. At least the casuals have the balls to stand up to the threat.

Just like the UAF are out to cause trouble. It is all to easy to point the finger at the right when you are clearly a socialist yourself.

No surrender Ever



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 01:40 PM
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Originally posted by The Revenant
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BBC? Left-wing? Seriously? I don't think so.

As for giving Muslims more bad press, I don't think they need it with the EDL about, so I don't see why the BBC would add to it.

As for commenting about the EDL etc, I infiltrated their organisation, as well as the political party most associated with them. Therefore I am uniquely qualified to be able to say that they are a bunch of racist loons, that (according to my experience) hate anything not white, snort a lot of coc aine, and generally act like unevolved primates. They are MOST DEFINITELY made up of different 'firms' and are out to cause trouble.

As for having LOTS of Asian members - give me names, and provable statistics. Seriously, I'd be interested to know what you base your opinions on.

Rev.


You're just a nasty, nastly little marxist, blaring treasonous, Anti British and Anglophobic views. I know the left inside out, and you are all scum



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by Freeborn

Fascists this....Nazi's that.... blah, blah, blah.
Easy isn't it.

Why do people insist on labelling and pigeon holing both themselves and everyone around them?
Labelling is restrictive and stereotyping and prevents independant thought.


You're right.

But if racist behaviour is spotted, then it must called out, otherwise it festers and produces people like Goebbels.

Rev.



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 01:44 PM
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Originally posted by The Revenant

Originally posted by KingDoey
Based on that statement I could counter reply by saying that Not all muslims are terrorists. just the majority...

See how stupid you sound


If you DID state that, you'd be a racist scumbag - but as you didn't state that, you aren't!

The link doesn't work however - I'm not talking about an ethinc group here - you are. Therefore, yours is the racially bigoted approach, mine isn't.

Rev.

Well yes considering you claim that the EDL is mostly white you technically are referring to an ethnic group.

I don't have a problem with the Muslims, only the ones that decide to detonate themselves to become martyrs.

If you are not against radicals killing innocent people then you need help. Being against these people is not racist



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 01:45 PM
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And rampant Leftism produces people like Stalin and Mao.

Your point is exactly?



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 01:46 PM
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Originally posted by KingDoey
Sure you infiltrated them. And i suppose the political party that you claim is associated with them is the BNP.?

When the EDL hate the BNP, well done.

And yes there are football hooligans in the EDL. Heck i bet there are Muslim football hooligans. At least the casuals have the balls to stand up to the threat.

Just like the UAF are out to cause trouble. It is all to easy to point the finger at the right when you are clearly a socialist yourself.

No surrender Ever


Actually, no, you're wrong. The party that has been 'infected' by the EDL is the English Democrats, a previously noble (now corrupt) federalist party. Yes, I know the EDL and BNP don't get on - that part is so entertaining.

"Stand up to the threat"? What? What threat? Muslims aren't a threat to you or I! You're more of a threat to them than anything else.

Are football hooligans bad? Yes or No?

I don't like the UAF. There's too many people in that organisation that are just up for a fight and nothing wiser.

Don't pretend to know me and my politics - I'm not a socialist, I have many policies in my back burner from the right wing end of the spectrum. It's just that most of them are 'progressive' in the truest sense of the word - if you know what it means?

"No surrender - ever".... I've heard that before.... where I wonder? I know for a fact that it's in Mein Kampf, and I also know that it was a favourite slogan of my buddies in the UDF and other militias. Oh yes, it's hard not recognise what your kind is when you spell it out so clearly for me.

Rev.



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by allthegoodusernamestaken
You're just a nasty, nastly little marxist, blaring treasonous, Anti British and Anglophobic views. I know the left inside out, and you are all scum


Yay! How kind - thanks for that. Did you find the spelling for 'Anglophobic' on Wikipedia?

Rev.



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by Freeborn
reply to post by The Revenant
 


And rampant Leftism produces people like Stalin and Mao.

Your point is exactly?


You forgot Kim Jong Ill, the last time I looked, he had a fascistic grip on his nation, openly discriminated against members of his society with disorders and slaughtered many, many people. But it is a communist nation, so it must be OK. But the second someone complains about the immigrants, they are racist, fascist or neonazi.



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 01:49 PM
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Don't you read the news?

www.guardian.co.uk...

Enjoy your turban



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by KingDoey
Well yes considering you claim that the EDL is mostly white you technically are referring to an ethnic group.

I don't have a problem with the Muslims, only the ones that decide to detonate themselves to become martyrs.

If you are not against radicals killing innocent people then you need help. Being against these people is not racist


Yet, I thought the EDL was an ethnically diverse group? You yourself said that didn't you?

We're not so different you and I. We both dislike religious nutters that want to hurt people - Yes, Muslim extremists included.

I am definitely against radicals killing people - I just know that racism and Islamophobic actions are not the way forward. See, we're not so different!

Rev.



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 01:52 PM
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Yes i did say that. But if you can read my post it says 'you claim'.

Stop making out that people who don't agree with your views are thick aswell. That is a pathetic tactic as you know nothing about me or anyone else on this forum.

Also don't try and say we are similar. we aren't in anyway. I have a sense of national pride and can see the bigger picture. As i said before I am sure you will enjoy your turban in 50 years.
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