reply to post by BigTimeCheater
Several things but first the ending. This is my objective view upon it though.
The lady to the left was calling out a name to 'stop it'. Was she referring to the activist or the senator(s)? If the activist, then it would seem
the camera didn't catch something. The whole story isn't there.
Second, the idiot who smacked the camera. What a moron. It is one thing to ask people to leave who are disrupting preceding. It is another to do
something as childish as that. That part I do not agree with.
So the ending, while damning to the officers and senators in the picture, I believe do not show the whole picture. It looks like both were out of
Now, as far as the guy who wants to be disruptive. This I do not agree with. Maybe it is my upbringing, I don't know. But shouting out and being
disrespectful during an invocation/prayer that in no way was threatening only damns one cause or view points.
The problem here is that there have been split cases on this issue. Some states have deemed it a violation of Establishment Clause while others have
upheld the traditional practice.
In this particular case, the people in the video were found not guilty of civil disobedience. I find that a good thing. Their only crime was being
rude and disrespectful.
So on one hand we have 200 plus years of tradition, where clergy have been invited and most of the time paid to present an opening prayer or
invocation. On the other hand we have others that feel this is the Government establishing a church via de facto means.
Since the bodies of these sessions are made up of the People, the Government is prohibited from invoking the Establishment Clause because then they
are carving up the 1st Amendment. If the Government steps in and requests that the prayers be 'deity' neutral, then again, they have over-stepped
the Free Exercise portion of the 1st Amendment.
In my opinion, at the State level, the People can decide if this practice and tradition shall continue.
On another note, I never understood why people become so upset when they are presented with an invocation or prayer. Just stand there quietly
thinking about naked girls for the minute of your life. Until the Hawaii State Legislature or the Courts deem it unconstitutional, it is not.