reply to post by IAMIAM
Let me preface this by saying that I am glad to see you stepping out and putting your own beliefs up for review, instead of just brandishing them in
small posts on other threads. I have been hoping that some of you would do something like this. Star and Flag from me for you for doing so.
I think that a force does exist which may be labeled God. But I do not think that the world's pantheons, and monotheistic beliefs are necessarily
one-in-the-same. For instance, Zeus and Poseidon and Hades are brothers, all representing different natural, theological, and humanistic qualities.
They are not all one being which has manifested itself as many-faced. Neither is Zeus one with Jesus, and they are not one with Thor and Baldr. I
think the gods are what happens when we pursue the God.
I see God as a great noumenal mirror. All It does is reflect. A wise man, or a powerful man, or a righteous man finds God, this mirror, and he looks
in. This man sees himself, and in himself he sees Jesus. Or another man sees himself, and in himself he sees Krishna. The gods are incomplete
reflections of God. They are us, and we are them.
If we really want to find God we need to find a way to close our eyes and rush the mirror. It waits beyond, but religion and philosophy and belief are
all reflections of those who have not been admitted in yet.
There is no such thing as morality. Murder is bad... unless you have murdered a man who was going to kill an innocent child in cold-blood. Stealing is
bad... unless you are stealing an important component of a bomb some terrorists are constructing to bomb a school of children. Having multiple spouses
is bad... only because religion tells us so now; it used to be more effective for the species to mate freely and openly as more offspring provided an
edge for our species to survive. Even the Golden Rule falls short: do unto others as you would have them do unto you... what of the masochists and
fetishists and suicidal or depressed? Should they do unto others as they would do unto themselves? Morality is a blinder, a self-induced delusion
created to help us adjust to the entropy and chaos of our existence. No matter how you try to say that a moral law exists... it can be turned ugly
very, very easily.
I know you know my stance on love from other threads we have both participated in. I do not see Love as the key to anything. I accept Love as a
metaphysical force: like Will, and Thought. But even in my acceptance of metaphysical forces Love is not the greatest. All three work in conjunction
with each other: Love-Will-Thought; a triangle. Give too much power to any of the three and balance is lost:
• too much Will destroys Love and corrupts Thoughts
• too much Thought decays Love and impugns Will
• too much Love blinds Thought and misleads Will
Likewise, I do not believe that Love is responsible for religious ideologies.
Jesus Loved humanity too much; His actions were entirely driven by Love. Look at how people's Thoughts have become blinded by His sacrifice (Westboro
Baptists, Crusades, Inquisition, modern fundamentalism, anti-homosexual movements), and how their Will is now to dominate all, and remove other forms
of Love (A.K.A. religion).
The Buddha thought too much; He corrupted Love and taught that Love, and Will were both forms of discrimination. By abolishing both Love and Will He
gave full power to Thought and as such His path leads to sublimation and erasure of the body, soul, ego, and spirit. Which is fine for some, but not
for everyone. It is still an unbalanced trinity.
Vedic and Indian religions focus heavily on the Will, as does Islam. They subjugate the people, declare infidelity of the non-believers, discriminate
based on social status, etc. So while their is much beauty, tradition and honor to be found in a Will-religion, there is also a corruption of Love,
and a discrimination in Thought/rationality.
Love—Thought—Will. The eternal balance. Not that you have to agree. I respect your beliefs, even if I disagree with them.
I believe in forgiveness. I believe in salvation. I believe in satori
. None of these are justice. Justice is another one of those concepts that
I find ambiguous and deceitful. Like morality. Sometimes death, by way of murder, is the appropriate response instead of forgiveness or salvation.
Mass-murderers like John Wayne Gacy for example. Other times forgiveness and a helping hand towards healing are pertinent, such as petty-crimes,
misdemeanors, etc. And other times still, there should be no interference from the Law and it's justice system; like with recreational drugs. What I,
or you, choose to do with our bodies is not to be judged right or wrong by someone else.
So yes, the Justice system is corrupt. And yes I do believe in forgiveness, but I don't think forgiveness surpasses all other forms of "justice". I
still appreciate the intent of your message and hope it wakes others up to their altruistic ability.
Your message here has nothing to do with money beyond the initial statement. Which I am glad of. The altruistic/communistic nature of your soliloquy
here is much, much more important then the notion of dollars, yen, and euros. The potency of human potential when assisted instead of oppressed is
much, much more powerful then the value of any currency. All people need to rise to their own great heights, by their own merit, in their own time.
It's not about the money at all; it's about the population and it's potential.
Messiahs and the End Time
I don't really have anything to say on these two. Messiahs... that kind of falls into line with my beliefs on God and the mirror. And I don't think
the End Times will ever happen. Even after we've enslaved ourselves and blown our planet to Hell... life will still go on. Maybe not human life, but
life in the form of whatever life-form survives. Maybe the newly discovered arsenic life-form, maybe standard carbon-based life-forms. Whatever. Just
because "our time" ends, does not mean it is the End Time. That is merely our egotistical judgment speaking.
The world spins, whether we're on it, or not. God lives on whether we're looking at It's mirror, or not.
Awesome post, IAMIAM.