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Your saying it's impossible to fight fires this high up with hoses? Not trying to argue just having discussion
Originally posted by mayabong
reply to post by hooper
zelikow is a dual citizen he was appointed not elected. Chertoff dual citizen appointed not elected. Zakheim not elected. I don't know what the answer is but not having people with allegence to another country involved in gov or the investigation is a start. Yeah?
Originally posted by hooper
Originally posted by mayabong
reply to post by hooper
zelikow is a dual citizen he was appointed not elected. Chertoff dual citizen appointed not elected. Zakheim not elected. I don't know what the answer is but not having people with allegence to another country involved in gov or the investigation is a start. Yeah?
Oh here we go with the "dual citizen" crap. There are a lot of people in the government, and "dual citizen" or not you have made the blanket accusation that they are all liars.
Citizenship and allegence are two different things. Citizenship is technical, allegence is ethical. One does not prove or disprove the other.
Unless, of course, you consider "citizenship" in the State of Isreal as an automatic deal breaker.
I know this won't make much sense to some of you; but the US does not play nice with the rest of the world; not even its allies.
I wonder if some of you good folks are aware of how deeply involved our government has been with terrorists and brutal dictators.
I wonder if some of you know anything about History, Economics, Law, Foreign policy, or Warfare. I wonder if some are even aware of how this government works, what think tanks and foundations are important and who runs them.
The US over the last 60 years has become the most ardent supporter of terrorism and terrorist regimes that has ever existed on the face of the Earth. That is just a fact.
You can rationalize it however you like, but the truth is the truth, and If you aren't a Truther, then what are you?
Sorry I think its a huge issue.
Of course Israel gets a free pass.
But if it was a bunch of Dual citizens from Turkey, or Mexico, or Saudi Arabia, or Zimbabwe in there, People would raise a huge fuss.
In regards to 911 you have the same guy who helped with the Preemptive war strategy in Iraq, being the head of the 911 commission. I mean what the hell?
You got Eric Cantor, telling Bibi that he's gonna protect them from the United States president? This dual citizen thing is a huge issue. I don't care how you try to slice it and package it to me.
Originally posted by Smack
I know this won't make much sense to some of you; but the US does not play nice with the rest of the world; not even its allies.
I wonder if some of you good folks are aware of how deeply involved our government has been with terrorists and brutal dictators. I wonder if some of you know anything about History, Economics, Law, Foreign policy, or Warfare. I wonder if some are even aware of how this government works, what think tanks and foundations are important and who runs them.
The US over the last 60 years has become the most ardent supporter of terrorism and terrorist regimes that has ever existed on the face of the Earth. That is just a fact. You can rationalize it however you like, but the truth is the truth, and If you aren't a Truther, then what are you?
Originally posted by jprophet420
Good grief, the hyperbole the trusters are shoveling out knows no bounds. This whole, "educate people about WTC 7" drivel is nothing but desperate conspiracy mongoring, as it's already established by eyewitness accounts that the collapse of WTC 1 severely damaged WTC 7 and that the fires were doing at least something detrimental to the structure, which gives the NIST report at least some credibility...
Already established by eyewitness accounts indeed. And the NIST report says it was not a factor. So that means we need a new investigation, and it also means that you are using pieces of contradictory evidence to attempt to...
Well I haven't figured out your motive, but that's irrelevant to this thread or any other for that matter. The methodology is noted. And quite frankly it is laughable.
Really? Care to back that up? I think it is often pretty "nice" how we spend billions helping disaster victims in other nations. I don't think you have any clue what not playing "nice" really looks like.
Yes, we all know. There is nothing new here, you're not the first to point out that the US of A, over the years, has had to get in bed with some pretty skanky customers.
Again, you're not throwing out any breaking news. Governments, like all other human institutions, are complex mechanisms that may, at the same time, reflect the will of the governed and the bias of those operating the day to day workings of the government.
Nope, sorry, that is what we all refer to as an "opinion". Facts are things like "Christmas in the USA is generally celebrated on December 25th". See how that works? My "fact" can be checked and tested, your "fact" cannot.
Originally posted by TheWatcher11
9/11 was suspicious to say the least. Anyone who discounts issues like the magic passport, the insider trading and the total lack of evidence to suggest these would-be-terrorists were capable of performing such aerial maneuvers isn't paying attention. The financial records alone, would call for a further investigation. No one understands the whole implications as to what happened on 9/11, but too attribute such acts to would be amateur terrostrists would prove the real crime. No way those 19 hijackers with box cutters could have done this. Idiots will always side with Government, because their mind has been governed.
I am not a US citizen citizen and I would not claim that the US has never put a foot wrong or backed the wrong despot but to paint everything as black as you do is simply absurd and perverse.