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why UK & CAN hate USA ?

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posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 11:32 AM
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Being Canada already live in a socialist nightmare and UK citizens have basically no rights and many laws we would consider unconstitutional here in USA. simple and straight forward, I am trying to figure this out because I have noticed a pattern all over the web like everywhere you go you have these worse than terrorist canadians and brits spewing propaganda and hate.

I live in a melting pot with easily 100 nationalities and we live together in respect and go about our lives under the banner of freedom, the outside world I experience here must be so much different than what the mentioned societies are like and I would never want to visit either place.

Even all nationalities you see here in my neighborhood and in the stores Christmas shopping ect celebrate Christmas and American holidays simply because they are fun, and they take hold after you get here.




posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 11:40 AM
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I just don't like the American culture. I prefer my Canadian identity, and dislike the arrogance that the American culture perpetuates. Its not that I hate Americans its the persona and identity you country has put forth. Also I'm sorry but Americans take politics WAY too seriously we in Canada know Harper is a joke but he's the least worst for now.



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 11:40 AM
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I don't know any sane Brits that hate America. The same as I don't know any sane Americans that would say Canadians and Brits are worse then terrorists.

I guess all countries have their share of idiots eh



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 11:53 AM
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I totally agree with you.

I'm from the UK and like many of my friends it's the arrogance and false sense of superiority that they Americans have that really annoys me. Add to that the fact that every time I've encountered Americans in America they have been quite rude and everyone expects a tip even if all they did was open a door for me when I was perfectly happy to do it for myself. And then I encountered many Americans when I was in Cancun and they mostly treated the locals like scum and abused them verbally if they didn't serve them quickly enough or understand their order. Don't get me wrong, I know some lovely Americans and I studied theology over there for 6 months, but as a nation Americans both suck and blow.

Rev


edit on 5/12/2010 by revmoofoo because: To edit.



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 11:55 AM
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I'm Canadian and I don't hate you Guys. You guys might be a bit gullible and logically deficient,
and your spelling is that of an elementary student, but it's ok, Canadians aren't all that bright either.

You live under the banner of freedom? Since when? The moment your nation made a 180 and
changed from being isolationist to interventionist you lost the right to call yourselves free.
Anyone who imposes their views on others is a tyrant, and the US one party government
is a shinning example of a tyrannical force not to be reckoned with. Don't worry, any war you get into our butt kissing government will follow.
So what's free about your country? You're number one when it comes to imprisoning people,
your government starts a war every damned decade, your police officers are brutes who get off at killing innocent civilians (guess it's a good resume for when they want to join black water eh?) The only thing good about your country thus far is that you don't have insane security like the Brits do, but we all know that it's a matter of time before every street corner has a camera watching your every move.

Don't get me wrong, I dislike my own government as well, but wacha gonna do right?
I could list a ton of crimes the Canadian government is responsible for, no point in discussing
it though. I can live with all the extra security and the oppression, what ticks me off is the lack of an economy, or rather, all the money is in select few hands and the rest gotta fight over the scraps, it's evil and I resent being an economic slave.

Now, a few things I have to point out, if you gonna call all Canadians and Brits worse than terrorists, I suppose it's only logical to assume that most of your replies will be negative ones.
What kind of propaganda did you have in mind? For what organization/purpose?
We celebrate Christmas too, but I forgot, that we're worse than terrorists which means we're not human at all.
Not like we have families, jobs, hobbies, holidays and all that right?

tsk, tsk, tsk.




posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 12:02 PM
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Im from the UK i cant say i hate THE country (the US) because ive never been and im sure it is (majorty of areas) a very nice place to go to. What i hate about the US is how its government goes about its business, constantly sticking their noses in everythin, dragging the UK down with (i know thats our governments fault for having no back bone). Im fed up with the US telling other countries what to do and when, im sick of the US trying to be world police. Other than that i dont mind the country, i work with a few americans who live over here and i have always got on well with them and im sure its the same over in the states. I enjoy your football too



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 12:02 PM
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I never get offended when I hear them make fun of americans. This is mainly because they are creating a stereotype and I don't fall in this stereotype. Now I know alot of people in this country do, but that's another story.



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 12:06 PM
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As this thread is kind of showing, most Canadians, British, Australians, and New Zealanders all like America. There was a tame kind of anti-Americanism at my school (all built on stereotypes, and boyish, national military capability, jealousy) but it disintegrated automatically, on 9/11.
For literally years 2-3 afterwards an American flag (that someone had cut out of the newspapers, and plastered on the window) stayed outside the school sweet shop. Few non English speaking country would have done the same.

I have long believed, all 5 English speaking nations, would be much better of, with a common citizenship-visa policy. Of course this would badly upset our governments plans to weaken us all, with immigration from alien cultures & places.



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 12:07 PM
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I agree with some parts of this, speaking as an Englishman. Americans do often come across as quite arrogant. Having been to U.S.A 3 times, I can say I found this trait to be much higher in Americans than English. It's difficult, people will say it is pride, but when does pride become arrogance? On the other hand, when does viewing someone as arrogant become someone (or indeed a culture in general) who is lacking in self-confidence, viewing someone with pride they themselves wish they had, and reacting with a jealous bias? It does work both ways.

I also slightly agree with your comments regarding politics, I don't think it's a case of taking politics too seriously, as politics should be taken very seriously indeed. However, Americans seem more liable to fall foul of absolutely certainty, which is a very dangerous trait. This leads to fanaticism- in the lead-up to the last elections this seemed fairly apparent, at least from the media coverage we received. The levels of devotion displayed towards Obama were scary, it was like a cult. It also seems to be the case with regards to religion, this perhaps links back to the "can do" message that American children are perceived as being taught from a young age- people become so sure of themselves, they don't question their beliefs, as they believe them to be infallible.

Anyway, I don't think anyone should generalise too much, people are individuals. At the end of the day, be we American, Canadian or English- we're still in the same crappy boat!
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posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 12:12 PM
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I don't hate regular Americans, lately I just feel sorry for them. Its the violence and warfare that their government wages on their behalf that I have a problem with. I mean, 500,000 dead in Iraq for what? A personal vendetta? Testing out new military hardware? I know that the American government didn't invent savagery, but they seem to be eager to continue its existence in the modern world, when other options for settling our disputes are readily available. Finally, its hard to trust a country that says it wants to "protect your freedoms" but actually spends over a trillion dollars, more than every other country on earth, on weapons every single year.



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 12:15 PM
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I'm sorry, but since when has canada been a socialist nightmare? Is it because we have free health care? Sure, we have to wait a little bit longer, but i'd rather have free health care where we get some extra taxes and more waiting time, than have to pay 500 dollars for a routine check up, and 50000 dollars to get surgery.



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 12:18 PM
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How do you suppose that Canada is living in a socialist nightmare?

We have a right wing Conservative Federal Government, very few Provinces have left wing Governments at this time. Just because we have low cost (free in SOME Provinces) Health Care doesn't make us socialist.

It just makes us more willing to go to the hospital when we need medical attention, and not bury ourselves in debt for a hospital visit.
edit on 5-12-2010 by babybunnies because: spelling



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 12:34 PM
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I should make my self more clear on both point, In arrogance I do mean their belief that their culture is superior to all others and should be followed exactly. I think all cultures have their good points and bad, Americas pride is a good point but their belief that they are better is what turns it sour.

As for politics seriously is a bad word to use for sure. But its their single minded full out this HAS to be the right candidate just because. Last weekend I actually had a conversation with someone from Virginia and the fact they only have 2 candidates really astounds me. We have 4 Major parties in Canada, and countless smaller ones. The American politics system is just so ridged and has no room for flexibility.



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 12:48 PM
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I was not making individual assumptions here so the (I's) need not apply, This is an obvious "social issue" and was trying to make a general point on how you guys look to the rest of the internet society on a whole.

you know how you guy's represent...



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by Cosmic.Artifact
Being Canada already live in a socialist nightmare


I do apologize but I read this opening and then just naturally discounted anything that came after. Who are you to "throw stones" and speak of that which you have absolutely no idea. I realize that this is your opinion and you are by all means entitled to it, but I am left wondering just what in the hell information you are basing your opinion on?


It seems to me that there are many that have various opinions of other countries with information that is suspect at best. Maybe a new form of racism is starting to appear and instead of religion or race, now entire countries are to be ostracized.

There are heroes and villains in every country, good and bad etc. What this world needs more of is love for one another as we are all in this thing called life together whether you want it or not.

Please don't speak for me when talking about the country that I live in and call home. Yes, I have my own opinions of it, as everyone does with their respective countries, but that is all it is. An opinion. I will even get into a very heartfelt discussion on this topic, but have no interest in talking to someone that already has their mind made up based on fallacies.

Please, more intelligent discussion based on personal experience and less of the baiting others based on bunk.


Originally posted by Xiamara
I prefer my Canadian identity, and dislike the arrogance that the American culture perpetuates.


I am starting to feel the same Xiamara, and for that, I am disappointed in myself as I like to think of myself as one that judges others on a one to one basis and not on their country of residence.



come on people....wheres the love??

It's much easier to love another than to try and start an argument and much better for ones health as well as ones inner spirit that grows on love, and dies from hate.


with respect............



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by tribewilder
just what in the hell information you are basing your opinion on?


I am basing it on the way these two nations come off to the rest of the internet society.




edit on 12/5/2010 by Cosmic.Artifact because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 12:57 PM
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My judgment comes from a view that not one culture is perfect it always has flaws but the American view that they have little to none makes me feel disappointed I agree with you on that 100% that to judge is not good but, its hard to ignore such bold views.



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 01:00 PM
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Originally posted by Xiamara
its hard to ignore such bold views.


I think Americans just come out and confront it instead of beating around the bush spreading rhetoric and trolling internet forums ect.



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by Cosmic.Artifact

Originally posted by tribewilder
just what in the hell information you are basing your opinion on?


I am basing it on the way these two nations come off to the rest of the internet society.


edit on 12/5/2010 by Cosmic.Artifact because: (no reason given)


Actually it seems to me all you are doing is stoking anti-American feelings amongst some of the few close allies America/ and Americans have.. at least that is how it appears to me..



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 01:04 PM
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Your post was almost nothing but rhetoric and trolling




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