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Hippies versus the Secrets

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posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 12:52 PM
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I lived in communal settings in San Francisco, Berkley, Austin, Anchorage and Taos; usually while attending different colleges and Universities but sometime working to get enough money to continue my education. The network of friends I obtained during those years has made my life mostly an easy ride to what I deem an incredible personal success. I treasure those friends and lovers more than any material wealth.

It wasn't always sunshine and lollipops as I succumbed to ugly drugs and alcohol addictions; but I owe my recovery to my higher power and all the beautiful people I met in the journey.

Embracing the hippie ethos isn't about style or outward appearance but about heart and a code of honor.




posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by davespanners
Do you think all of those people that were 18 in 1968 just disappeared?


Nope... still here.


No they turned into the politicians / business owners / bankers / stock brokers and everyone else that oversaw the Reagan / Thatcher years and made everything in the world about profit.


Sorry to burst your bubble, but that's not entirely true. What happened was that the Neo-Conservative Movement took over in the earlt 80's after the Hippie movement died about 10 years previously. mainly due to the many negative off-shoots that also sprang up, such as Yippies (who were prone to get politically active) and the true killer of the movement, Charlie Manson .


All of their peace and love ethos got thrown out of the window when they got the chance of owning a Porche and a house


Yes, we all needed houses to raise families in. What did you expect? That we'd all be grazing pasture land?


Never owned a Porshe but always drove American-made cars (except for that lovable 65 Volkswagon). Where I live (Canada), the roads are long and empty, hitch-hiking is a dangerous sport and walking is out of the question. Most of us found jobs to provide for our families but NEVER lost our faith in respecting others.


Damn hippies



Unlike some...



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by davespanners


All of their peace and love ethos got thrown out of the window when they got the chance of owning a Porche and a house

Damn hippies


Those people weren't hippies they were posers. I know plenty of very affluent hippies with the most generous and loving hearts you can imagine. I consider myself one of them; I have owned very exotic cars and enjoyed a very affluent lifestyle and I never lost sight of my humanness and my kinship with everyone....even those that used to call me a dirty hippie. I always thought the name callers were secretly envious or our free spirited life style and if they would have know about our showers, hottub get togethers, skinny dipping, etc. they would have found out we were very clean in body, mind and spirit. We knew how jealousy could elicit animosity and silly comments; a source of humor as we lounged in the jacuzzi or hot springs in the Land of Enchantment.

My lifestyle today mirrors pretty much what I EXPERIENCED during the Summer of Love.
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posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 02:00 PM
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I agree with you, I think the yuppies are a lot more responsible for some of the mess now then the hippies ever where.

I like your vision, Im sure you have others? I think a lot of my "visions" from back then are what makes me who I am today and have a lot to do with the way I think and understand things. I am a very dimensional thinker and can understand things like time travel, or past present future are all one, etc.

I have always had strong leanings towards Native Indian teachings as well. I only wish I could spend some in depth time amongst that mind frame if that made sense.

Something tells me we could talk for hours



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 02:41 PM
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Yes the movement died. but these were the same generation of people.

A group of self centred egotists that spent their teenage years taking drugs and railing against "the man" and 20 years later became "the man" themselves and carried on being self centred and egotistical.

It's not like people that were in their 40's during the 80's were a different set of people to those that were in their teens during the mid-late 60's
Who do you think that movement of people that you claim "took over" were? They didn't just drop out of the sky

The yuppies were working from within the system that these people were in control of

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From your post it seem that you think that all of the hippies grew up into "older hippies" something that is not born out at all by what happened when that generation of people were old enough to be in control of things.
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posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 03:11 PM
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Yep, all those hippies with their free love and peace are the govt. and community organizers of today who are stuffing socialism down the worlds throat.



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 03:13 PM
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The hippies we've all come to know and LOVE were part of a Prophet generation. According to the generational theories of researchers Strauss and Howe, generations are a cycle of archetypes - Prophet, Nomad, Hero, Artist.

Hippies (boomers) = Prophets
Gen X (their kids) = Nomads
Millennials (now young adults/teens) = Heroes
Kiddos of today = Artists
Next gen will = the next Prophets

So maybe the Prophets of tomorrow will bring another Consciousness Revolution (or Awakening), if we're lucky. But for now, we aren't in a Consciousness Revolution. The generation leading today are Heroes, and we are in a Crisis Revolution.

However, the hippies STILL have one of the most important roles to fill, that of the Gray Champion. Gray Champions are those from the Prophet generation that rear their powerful heads one last time to rally the Hero Generation. We've been patiently awaiting our Gray Champions.

Personally I wonder if the cycle isn't getting lost due to a number of reasons, from water fluoridation to the passive lull of the TV. But as history teaches, every generation tends to think their struggle is unprecedented and insurmountable. Really it's only the details that change.

Explanation of Archetypes
Generations in History
Revolutions (or "Turnings") in History



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 03:23 PM
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Those accusing the hippies of selling out are only partly right. Just because a generation is defined by one archetype (Prophet in this case) does not mean that other archetypes don't exist in that generation as well. It simply means the Prophets were the dominant archetype of that generation.

Let's not forget the Boomer generation was huge, in numbers. Lots exceptions to the rule.



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by davespanners
From your post it seem that you think that all of the hippies grew up into "older hippies" something that is not born out at all by what happened when that generation of people were old enough to be in control of things.


Like anything else borne of experience, I can only speak for myself. I don't speak for 'All Hippies' because I'm not the Flying Onmipresent Spaghetti Monster (either then or now). I DO know that what the culture meant for me still has the same importance. I never lost it.

Things that never changed over the past 45 years:

I support whatever gives power to the people and vote in every election no matter how hopelessly lost many politicians may seem

I support the power of love and that it pertains to the effects of positive actions in relations with others (and not just sex).

I support the search for truth and an example for that is an appreciation for what Wikileaks is doing.

I support whatever brings peace into this world, because I hate war BUT I joined the military because while war happens, we need to stand up to protect our families.

I support a good education for our kids and promote the desire to learn far into our adulthood.

I didn't change nor did I sell my soul.



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 03:31 PM
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Originally posted by Soldier of God
Yep, all those hippies with their free love and peace are the govt. and community organizers of today who are stuffing socialism down the worlds throat.


I sympathize with your frustrations. But the sooner we realize it's just the way they were doomed to be, the sooner we learn how to fix it. Fighting the cycle with linear thinking only pronounces the cycle. Because backlash is what defines the cycle. Which is why these cycles are so prominent in the Western world, where we don't really acknowledge them. We simply react, thus perpetuating the cycle almost perfectly.

Those that are more aware of the cycles of time find it easier to circumvent the process, and in some areas of the world the cycles are almost undetectable.

For the record I'm not recommending that one way is better over the other. I have no idea. I'm just saying that's the way it is, and there's only one way to beat it. Acknowledge it and work towards a solution that satisfies the needs of the time. Or not, and react exactly the way your archetype always reacts, continuing the cycle.



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 03:42 PM
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During this summer I was recently "awakened" after this I have noticed an awakening happening in all sorts of other people. They are hippies, logical positivists, muscians, party kids, snarky college kids, just a regular joe who found his flow. This love and understanding which just pours out of everyone. It makes me know we weren't meant to live in giant stink holes. The harmony I feel when I'm at these places is like none other. Whenever I get into a serious jam with some friends I feel like I am floating above my body and some unknown presence is possessing me to play. I feel like there are some definite vibrations that everyones getting in tune with, whether its mystical or something built into our physical perception like a dog who goes to his master before a storm, I cannot say. All I can say is love will conquer all and the sooner everyone realizes it, the happier our hillarious little existence will be.



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posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 04:06 PM
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That was a very interesting post and I am off to check out the links. It is a nice break down of the cycles.
Interesting that it is broken into 5. It is like every 20 years we make a full circle. Cool post


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posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 04:08 PM
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I remember the 60's well. The young people of that generation made a big impact on ending the war in Vietnam. From their music... "Four dead in Ohio" and "War, what is it good for, absolutely nothing" the Kent State campus protest against the National Guard, and protests of young men burning their draft cards.

While over 50,000 young men gave their lives in the Vietnam conflict, the political elite like "w" Bush, Clinton and other politicians that had connections were able to avoid the draft. These same chicken hawk politicians don't think twice about starting wars and sending are young people in harms way. We need more of the 60's type backbone that generation had (minus the drugs). Most young people now just remember the tied dye shirts, hippie beads, long hair, drugs and communes. The real impact of that generation was standing up to the injustices by our government.

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posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 04:14 PM
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we really need to bring back the 60s and the only way you can do that is by bringing back '___' into the mainstream. theres a reason that it was once made the most dangerous drug known to man. that reason is it opens our minds and and makes you look at yourself differently. SO CAN YOU PASS THE ACID TEST! this is starting in denver and we hope that it'll will spread across the country. if your a chemist please email me at mitchsalinas26@yahoo.com



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 04:34 PM
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I understand and I certainly don't mean my posts to be anything personal to you.

I just find it kind of amazing that the generation of people that grew up at that time are usually very happy to associate themselves with the "nice" things that happened during the time when they were teenagers but always seem to forget about all of the incredibly horrible things that happened when they were grown up.

Jerry Garcia may well of sung about important things but what did he actually do in his life, did we see him spending any of his multi millions on saving starving children or setting up charitable foundations, no, he became a heroin addict and spent his money on himself

Dave Gilmore from Pink Floyd now lives in one of the richest most upper class bits of England owns an aviation company and collects vintage planes, hardly the best use of money for someone that wanted to change the world is it.


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posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 05:00 PM
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The hippies sold out and are now the ones in charge, raping America



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 05:03 PM
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Peace man. Groovy!
I remember the peace and love and drugs and headbands around the forehead and long skirts and dresses and bell bottoms. LOL Though the word groovy was a bit before my time. Enjoying the read in here. Interesting thread friend!!



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 05:06 PM
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posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by davespanners
Jerry Garcia may well of sung about important things but what did he actually do in his life, did we see him spending any of his multi millions on saving starving children or setting up charitable foundations, no, he became a heroin addict and spent his money on himself

Dave Gilmore from Pink Floyd now lives in one of the richest most upper class bits of England owns an aviation company and collects vintage planes, hardly the best use of money for someone that wanted to change the world is it.



Icons... some get greedy and others don't get the chance (Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, John Lennon and Jim Morrison come to mind). That some cling to cash as if they're addicted to it, like Paul McCartney, is just the law of averages at work. The Hippie movement had a thousand variations in a hundred countries and counted a hundred millions of plain ordinairy folks, just like me. Of those all those millions, only a very few ever became famous.

I'd say, don't judge the book by the glossy picture on the cover... look inside and find out what the story was.
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