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What is the "I"? Why am I me and not you?

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posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 05:16 AM
Here is a simple video that helps in the understanding of ..duality and the I self .....illusion

posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 05:20 AM
The i is the me which is separated from you.
I is separation, me opposed to you or this and that.
Living life in separation, me and you, they and us, or even me/we opposed to our surrounding transforms the world and others into something to operate up on.
This we see happening, guiding and controling because we operate upon and in the outside world.
A superficial form of living, in which we have to obey and conform according to the patterns of society and believe.
Now i am not saying something like stand up to it, i am not even judging it.
But it must be understood, seen in order to really grasp the dept of it.
In an other thread i replyed that the real transformation is to wipe out the i, the me.
One wise man told me one day that this was the original meaning of christianity.
I have searched but did not found anything that supported this but it is the case that if there is no separation and therefore no conflict and violence we live in a whole different world than we do today.

posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 07:17 AM

Originally posted by NewlyAwakened Have you ever asked the question, "Why am I me and not you?"

Because when I self-reflect--this is prior to all thought--I create a 'space' of consciousness in which this particular brain exists. And this brain has experiences and perceptions and sensations and memories of reality, and emotions, and relationships and thoughts which have not been experienced by any other nervous system.

This is a unique identity.

And the 'space' in which this identity exists is over here; and the 'space' in which your identity exists is over there.

Mi cha el

posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 07:26 AM

Originally posted by xsheep Here is a simple video that helps in the understanding of ..duality and the I self .....illusion

The very beginning of the video is simply wrong where it says "consciousness at rest...oneness".

There is the round globe and there is the darkness around that globe.

This is already a duality.

Consciousness at rest--which can only be created by the 'movement' of self-reflection--is already the dualistic consciousness of the "self".

Thought will then maintain the temporal continuity of this 'spatiality' of the "self" and the duality...

But it is not the origin of such duality.

Mi cha el
edit on 5-12-2010 by Michael Cecil because: temporal continuity

posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 03:50 AM
Let me suggest revisions to the following video:

Originally posted by xsheep

The first image should be merely the blank screen itself, with the word "oneness".

This is prior to the 'movement' of self-reflection.

The next image should be the image on the screen of the gray sphere against the black backround; the gray sphere being identified as the "self" and the black background being identified as the "not self"--the line of differentiation between them being identified as the 'movement' of self-reflection.

This image should then 'blink' "on" and "off" against the empty screen identified as "oneness" and the image against the screen being identified as "duality"...

Until, that is, the intervention of thought which maintains that image of "self"/"not self" on the screen; thus, perpetuating the duality over time.

Just a suggestion.

Mi cha el

posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 08:13 AM

Originally posted by chiponbothshoulders
you are young,aren't you?.

Well, that's relative and so a yes or no might not be accurate for you. But I am 27. I would say smarter than the average 27-year-old, but also much less emotionally mature. Basically your typical geek fate.

Yes, it's a somewhat childish question. But I'm with Sherlock on this; I've been asking since I was a kid and have never gotten a satisfactory answer.

Still haven't, btw

edit on 6-12-2010 by NewlyAwakened because: (no reason given)

posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 08:28 AM

Originally posted by NewlyAwakenedBut I'm with Sherlock on this; I've been asking since I was a kid and have never gotten a satisfactory answer.Still haven't, btw

You are young.

I have been studying the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Nag Hammadi Codices for longer than you have been alive; which probably does not mean much to you.

You have not yet learned that the consciousness of the 'thinker' is simply not capable of answering every question.

When you get to being my age, and your memory begins to fail, and the thoughts of the 'thinker' are not nearly so certain as they have always been, another dimension of understanding emerges; the picture-'thinking' of the right hemisphere.

This is one of the aspects of wisdom, which comes only with age: the realization that there is much more to reality than can be derived at by logic and thought.

A young person can be very, very, very intelligent; relying exclusively on the consciousness of the 'thinker'.

Wisdom comes only with age and experience of life.

Mi cha el

posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 10:25 AM
reply to post by Michael Cecil

sorry but that is simply not true.
Wisdom is not taught but comes from within, so even a joung person pure in heart can find himself within.
If wisdom is taught, meaning coming from books and traditions than i am pretty sure it is just gained knowledge.

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