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Originally posted by SarK0Y
reply to post by oozyism
don't you think taliban would have the least chance against pentagon, if pentagon really was charged to waste'em??? that's Just simple Matter of Truth: you have no chance to win war w/o adequate techs. pentagon lost Vietnam because of CCCP, CCCP lost Afghan due to pentagon. but, now, who backs taliban so much that they have been capable to stand against pentagon??? what is their source to get money, weapon & information???
All funding for Taliban goes through Pakistan, many countries in the world is supporting resistance against US, you seem to think US has no enemies
I have no problems answering your question, but there is a breakdown in what you are asking and the translation into English. I honetly am not understanding what you are trying to ask me.
Originally posted by oozyism
reply to post by Soshh
OK let's make it simple, when did they lie in front of everyone face?
When they kill the innocent, they admit it.
Originally posted by 46ACE
Depleted uranium(DU) the libs scream about as Nuclear weapons! Are not "nuclear weapons".
Depleted uranium is used in projectiles because it is denser than steel; hence it penetrates armor. the A-10 tankbuster is famous for its gau 8: 30mmm cannon armor piercing rounds.So I laugh at these kind of scare headlines":
"Its an evil force using nuclear bio and chem weapons".edit on 9-12-2010 by 46ACE because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by oozyism reply to post by Soshh
Actually you and your buddy troll the thread towards Taliban not me.
I asked you to show me some instances where Taliban have lied in front of everyone's face, you've failed to bring me an instance.
Anyways, the OP has already been proven with immense amount of evidence.
Originally posted by Soshh
reply to post by oozyism
What are you talking about? If you are unsatisfied, do what you should have done in the first place and back up the statement you made by listing every single Taliban press release and every single thing they have ever said to anyone along with a decent analysis explaining how there are no lies within. Choppy chop.
A spokesman for the Taliban has offered to set up a joint committee with the United Nations and Nato to study civilian casualties in Afghanistan
I blasted the article in my first post and above and you responded to neither, I think that speaks volumes don't you? You can now provide this supposedly immense amount of evidence of the article's validity, if you like and if it actually exists of course.
During the operation “Enduring Freedom” in support of the Northern Alliance against the Taliban-Regime, US-aircraft used, amongst others, armour-piercing incendiary munitions with a DU-core. Because of its pyrophoric character, when this type of munition is used against hard targets (e.g. tanks, cars) the uranium burns. During the combustion, toxic dusts can be deposited, particularly at and around the targets, which can then be re-suspended easily.
Some scientists say the rise is linked to use of weapons containing depleted uranium (DU) by the US-led coalition that invaded the country in 2001.
Doctors in Kabul and Kandahar showed data indicating that the incidence of a number of health conditions, including birth defects, has doubled in under two years.
Asaf Durakovic, URMC's president and a former US army adviser, believes that exposure to DU weapons may have brought a rise in birth defects as well as "symptoms of muscular-skeletal pains, immune system disorders, lung disease, and eventually cancer".
Depleted uranium and natural uranium contain different ratios of two isotopes of the metal.
So scientists can tell whether a person has been exposed to the natural form, or to DU.
DU is used in armour-piercing shells because its density means it can penetrate further than other metals.
Dr Durakovic said his research showed that in Afghanistan, coalition forces had also used DU in "bunker buster" bombs, which can penetrate tens of metres into the soil.
"In Afghanistan it has to be... a weapon that destroys not only bunkers or caves, but also penetrates through the soil and through the fragile environment of the mountains."
Ever since the first Gulf War the U.S. military has increasingly used radioactive Depleted Uranium (DU) munitions. Against Iraq in 1991 they proved very effective at penetrating enemy armor (tanks). More recently in the Afghan campaign they were used extensively for destroying underground facilities and caves. The following table summarizes estimated usage of radioactive DU in three of America's recent wars. All these weapons will be almost certainly be heavily used should Gulf War II take place.
Intensely bombed hard target zones like Tora Bora and Shah-i-Kot may now be heavily contaminated with DU oxide. During the battle of Shah-i-Kot, A-10s were heavily used, flying up to eight hours every day from an unnamed base outside Afghanistan. The potential health risks to U.S. and Afghan troops being sent to check out bombed cave systems are horrendous unless they are using full nuclear, chemical and biological (NBC) protection. But even more serious are the risks in densely populated target zones like Kabul - where DU oxide is likely to contaminate soil, buildings and water and be suspended in the Kabul "haze" seen in several media reports.
Background – the discovery of a new type of uranium weapon
Mass spectrometric analysis conducted by the NERC Geoscience Laboratory of the 8 urine specimens taken from selected subjects in the Jalalabad area, Nangarhar Province, May/June 2002, showed abnormally high concentrations of Uranium. Unlike UMRC’s previous research into radiological and heavy metal contamination of NATO conflict zones, which found Depleted Uranium (DU) in the urine of Operation Desert Storm soldiers, the Jalalabad subjects have abnormally high concentrations of Non-depleted Uranium (NU).
The concentrations of Non-depleted Uranium in the Jalalabad community subjects are 400% to 2000% higher than normal populations. This concentration of radioisotopes is not known to have occurred before in civilian populations.
The results of the analysis of the Jalalabad area specimens rule out contamination by depleted uranium, enriched uranium and/or uranium recycled from the nuclear reactor waste stream. The Jalalabad area subjects’ uranium signature cannot be explained by the any known geological or other features in the area. These anomalous research findings pose an unexpected investigative challenge to UMRC and NERC. One of the main objectives of Trip #2 was to investigate the variables that could explain these findings.
Reports from the Center for Defence information suggest that at least 500 tons of smart bombs and cruise
missiles have been used in the first three weeks of the Afghan war. They are most likely to have been used on
"high value targets" e.g. Taliban and Al-Qaeda command centres, airfields and other military installations.
The US military rejects claims that it used DU-containing bunker busters in Afghanistan.
both the United Kingdom and U.S. governments denied using DU in Afghanistan
Originally posted by Xcathdra
By the way, that is the true definition of propoganda.. Ignoring facts to spin your own version of events.
Originally posted by oozyism
There is clear cut evidence suggesting DU weapons were used in Afghanistan.