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Police Officer Films Girl Being Murdered By Fire But Fails To Intervene

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posted on Dec, 3 2010 @ 03:42 AM
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Absoulutely pathetic cop does nothing to save girl being murdered by being set alight. Oh sorry he did do something, he made a video.

Hope someone films his death.

www.abc.net.au...

A police officer faces disciplinary action after he allegedly failed to intervene in an attack on a woman who died after being stabbed and set alight at a Melbourne petrol station.

Witnesses say they saw a man and a woman arguing at a petrol station in Bayswater on June 1 before the woman was stabbed and set alight.

Horrified onlookers tried to fight the fire and save the woman, but she suffered burns to 100 per cent of her body and died soon after being taken to hospital.

The officer, who was off duty at the time of the attack, apparently filmed the event as evidence and was unarmed at the time.

A Victoria Police spokeswoman says an internal investigation is underway.

"Victoria Police can confirm a police member is facing disciplinary action relating to the off-duty inaction to provide assistance at an incident in Bayswater earlier this year," she said.

David Hopkins, 40, has been charged with the 42-year-old woman's murder.



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posted on Dec, 3 2010 @ 03:44 AM
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Welcome to the hateful world! No wonder many people claim Fudge the police! People need to start taking power in their hand and watching their own.



posted on Dec, 3 2010 @ 03:47 AM
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WOW! I think this cop needs to get lit on fire to see what he let someone else go through, what happened to serve and protect? Oh, wait he couldnt give a ticket for something stupid I guess so it was ok to just watch.



posted on Dec, 3 2010 @ 03:48 AM
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Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
Welcome to the hateful world! No wonder many people claim Fudge the police! People need to start taking power in their hand and watching their own.


The lady was killed because the male took power into his own hands. Those same hands stabbed her, then set her on fire.



posted on Dec, 3 2010 @ 03:54 AM
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I think people forget that the police are Public Servants..If you have a problem with a cop Make sure you ask for the Badge #.. You would be suprised how much they will pipe down when you ask for that #. Also make sure you have a video phone.. Video has made the police VERY wary of being pricks out in public... Camera's are everywhere.



posted on Dec, 3 2010 @ 03:59 AM
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This is actually VERY dis-heartening......

Even if he was off- duty, he should have made the criminal aware that he was a Police Officer , even if wasn't armed etc etc...... By doing so it might have caused a change to the events that occurred... To film it on a camera just seems ...... well....???!!! He will have to live with his 'inaction' because of his own self preservation....

You have to be careful when intervening nowdays because some just don't care but there were other people there as well and why did they not cause noise, distraction etc etc etc .........

It is our duty to intervene and try to distract

Sad Sad Sad case

PurpleDOG UK



posted on Dec, 3 2010 @ 04:02 AM
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Is this a virus going around or what ?
Why would a police officer behave in this manner ?
I for one have seen and heard enough.
I will not speak to the Police.
I will not help the Police.
I will not support to Police.
If they are not capable of keeping law and order
what good are they ? Why will they not stop this behavior ?
This is happening on a global scale, can someone
help me understand this ? Why are the Police behaving
like thugs,like nazi,s World wide ? Is this a Program?


CX

posted on Dec, 3 2010 @ 04:13 AM
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People also need to stop tarring all police officers with the same brush.

I personaly know of no other police officer past or present who would have stood by and watched this without intervening.

Sometimes you get a few bad eggs, and sometimes they go a step further and do something unfathomable like this....that doesn't mean they are all like this though.

CX.
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posted on Dec, 3 2010 @ 05:20 AM
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Originally posted by Molan27
I think people forget that the police are Public Servants..If you have a problem with a cop Make sure you ask for the Badge #.. You would be suprised how much they will pipe down when you ask for that #. Also make sure you have a video phone.. Video has made the police VERY wary of being pricks out in public... Camera's are everywhere.


For US Law Enforcement Encounters -

Including in the Dash mount in the cars, on our Tasers including Aufio on the Officer as well as the Taser, and in several egencies a camera that is mounted from their duty weapons, in addition to some officers and their head ware.

A video phone is acceptable to the extent you do not interfere with the officers actions, or place anyone else in danger by recording (stopping on a highway etc). If you are the subject of the detention I would stonrgly reccomend against tryong to use your phone to video record the incident, since its a lawful detention and your freedom of movement is curtailed.

Law Enforcement has no problems being subjected to being recorded, since we are wired to no end as it stands now. Suggesting that a cell hone camera will make us act in your view responsible is a joke.

What people can do to make themselves better armed is to learn the laws and what your rights are and how they work, and to particiapte in the government process (elections etc). Also we are not required to provide a badge number to anyone unless specifically stated by departmental policy.

If we right a citation the info is included on on it. Most agencies now days do not even place a badge number on the badge anymore. The term you want to use and ask for is a DSN, or designated Service Number.

As always, be respectful when asking for such information, regardles off how the officer is acting towards you. Sinking to a lower level does not help you make your case when filing a complaint.

This is not to discourage people, but to help when dealing with crap like this.
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posted on Dec, 3 2010 @ 05:23 AM
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Some of your points aren't relevent to Australian (where this incident happened) law but for the most part I agree.



posted on Dec, 3 2010 @ 05:49 AM
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Yeah its why I pointed out the for American Law Enforcement encounters. From everything I have seen and dealt with Austrailia is pretty close in terms of do's and dont's with obvious exceptions.

The blanket, ignorant statements people make is the annoying part. It would be no different than cops using a broad paintbrush on the ignorant people, assuming all of the people they come in contact with are one in the same.

Its humerous to see people go off on cops, talking about typical stereotyping and what not that the cops do, only to watch them do exactly what they accuse the police of.

As I said, apparently its easier to scream at the moon, pack up your marbles and go home rather than take part in the process and actually fix the problem.

By ignoring it, the problem is not going to go away, or miraculously fix itself. By ignoring the problem, you are perpetuating it, in addition to becoming a part of it.



posted on Dec, 3 2010 @ 06:47 AM
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Originally posted by Xcathdra
By ignoring the problem, you are perpetuating it, in addition to becoming a part of it.


Now now, don't blame the victims.

Because it is the citizens who are being victimized, yes? A citizen stereotypes a cop, nothing happens. When the man with a badge and a gun and a tazer goes around stereotyping people, the outcome is much different, yes?

Perhaps the people who are paid to do a job should do the job they are paid to do?



posted on Dec, 3 2010 @ 07:19 AM
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You asked a good question. There does seem to be a virus going around that has infected a lot of people in authority to become exceptionally amoral and soulless in the conduct of their professions. At the same time a lot of people insist this social virus that has infected the West is quite superior to Western culture and is progress. You can see the same twisted nature develop out of all leftist toltaltarian governing structures - fascist and socialist/communist. It goes beyond merely the corrupt individual and imposes it's materialist world view upon the society as a whole.



posted on Dec, 3 2010 @ 09:33 AM
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Originally posted by Exuberant1
Perhaps the people who are paid to do a job should do the job they are paid to do?


Why would they do that when they can be monday morning quarterbacked from a person who is not law enforcement and has an incorrect view on how the Laws in the US work?

There are bad cops out there, but the blanket BS blmae game on all does not fly.



posted on Dec, 3 2010 @ 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by CX
I personaly know of no other police officer past or present who would have stood by and watched this without intervening.


Well this geezer is one, and i am sure plenty would too.

Forget about the rubbish like there is always a few bad apples, all police for the most part are bad.



posted on Dec, 3 2010 @ 09:58 AM
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Originally posted by Xcathdra

Originally posted by Exuberant1
Perhaps the people who are paid to do a job should do the job they are paid to do?


Why would they do that when they can be monday morning quarterbacked from a person who is not law enforcement and has an incorrect view on how the Laws in the US work?


Do you use internet commentary as an excuse not to do the job you are paid to do?

I hope not.


CX

posted on Dec, 3 2010 @ 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by andy1033

Originally posted by CX
I personaly know of no other police officer past or present who would have stood by and watched this without intervening.


Well this geezer is one, and i am sure plenty would too.


I know this guy is one Andy, however i said "i personaly" know of none...and i have known a lot of police officers in my nine years of service as one, and serving with many officers from many forces around the world, including the US. Of all the police i have known since then, i still don't think any of them would have stood by.

See i know you won't understand this Andy, and i'm not just getting at you, its to all that have not served in a police enforcement role....it is hard not to step in, even when you have left the force. Thats not just police, many civillians too have something in them that just cannot let them stand by and see some things happen.


Forget about the rubbish like there is always a few bad apples, all police for the most part are bad.


In your world Andy, i hear that is the case....but anyone who has been on the wrong side of the law says that.

I have seen people develope a totaly hatred for police over a single parking ticket.

Funny thing is Andy, despite all the hate you so often show towards the police on here, if i or the majority of police officers i know saw you getting assaulted, we would step in. I'm not saying its always a safe thing to do don't get me wrong, but some many people just can't sit by and watch.

If i was still serving Andy, i would personaly track you down and give you a much needed hug.


CX.



posted on Dec, 3 2010 @ 09:40 PM
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Care to clarify your statement. I am not entirely sure what you are asking / assuming / accusing me of doing.



posted on Dec, 4 2010 @ 04:01 AM
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That's cool bro.

You are a cop, and you don't understand. Happens all the time.

And I understand why - it is hiring practices:


NEW HAVEN— A Federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit by a man who was barred from the New London police force because he scored too high on an intelligence test.

In a ruling made public on Tuesday, Judge Peter C. Dorsey of the United States District Court in New Haven agreed that the plaintiff, Robert Jordan, was denied an opportunity to interview for a police job because of his high test scores. But he said that that did not mean Mr. Jordan was a victim of discrimination.

Judge Dorsey ruled that Mr. Jordan was not denied equal protection because the city of New London applied the same standard to everyone: anyone who scored too high was rejected.

query.nytimes.com...


So a person isn't stupid because they are a cop, they are a cop because they are stupid - or at least not too bright... So sayeth the article.

Maybe the cop in the OP got his job due to such practices. It would be a shame to find out this constable was there in the place of a more intelligent and capable individual who got passed over because his IQ wasn't low enough.


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