Originally posted by Stormdancer777
reply to post by Rosha
and wasn't it humane of those countries to aid Israel, and lay differences aside if only for a moment?
hi..which comment are you reffering to?
If you are talking about sending fire trucks..imo...no, as that act will eventually be used as propoganda to kill more children. Denying them
assistance, will also have an effect, and will most likely be used to further justify their persection complex..but it is the lesser of two evils as I
see it...children alive..children dead..the equation is simple for me.
Sadly, that is how any hand of friendship with Israel has been utilized in the past. There has to come a time, like in South Africa where the line is
drawn and people start to say NO. My line starts here and points Israel back to its own actions and the responsibility it has for its own outcomes.
Generally speaking though... if the aid is given to both sides..equally...then its real "aid" and can at least to be said to be unbiased in intent - a
support of each party in equality. When its given only to one side..no..its politics...manipulation...patronisation and its handing a valuable tool
of propoganda to the receiver.
Military aid alone:
During Fiscal Year 2009, the U.S. is providing Israel with at least $7.0 million per day in military aid and $0 in military aid to the
Palestinians.
(View Sources & More Information here
www.ifamericansknew.org...)
Ironically...if Israel knew what real 'aid' meant..they'd know the Palestinians are getting by far the better part of that bargain atm, by way of
building solid relationships with the EU and other nations..in the repurcussions of the honest giving and care love and support from a plethora of
humanitarian groups, individals and aid workers, groups like MSF and others who give without judgement and only offer care and support...things
which..in the future..will be more practical and helpful than bombs and guns can ever be as this helps these people retain a soul and retain their
dignity and helps them to retain their humanity and awareness knowing for certain that the entire world doesnt hate them or think as Israel
does...just knowing that there are still peoples free to choose and think out here...that 'goodness' still exists...is a powerful thing.
In that same framework..Israel needs to know they are ultimately being given the tools their own suicide and demise by the US and others who give them
arms....as these things cause and bring only death both of body mind and soul to the peoples using them. I would question any 'free gift' of such
death, and wonder rightly, why anyone would want me to have more weapons when they already know the weapons I have are killing my spirit....enslaving
my people...and leaving me to die in darkness.
The issue of 'doing' 'with the best of intentions' and untintentionaly feeding future propoganda a very real one on both sides..and we - the 'rest of
us' - that are not infected by the hatred or affected directly do have to think carefully and act with great caution in any matter to do with these
two nations.
Its not just how the Israelies will use those fire trucks and any assistance given them to solidify their actions' and social 'acceptableness' in the
international commnity and so justify their hold on Gaza, but also, thinking another step, its also how the Palestinians will eventally use that care,
love, support they are recieving and wether or not they too will use that support one day as a platform for healing the rift or as fodder for more war
too just as Israel did as regards those nations that supported, hid, fed and aided them during the 2nd world war war...as then, and under the cover
of peaceful intentions, they went on to make war and became their own oppressors...will Palestine do the same but worse as Israel has become a more
horrific version of the reich?
Its a weird matter of perspective I guess....and knowing that every action and inaction matters...symbolically and literally.
edit on 3-12-2010 by Rosha because: (no reason given)
---- But... what does one have to do with the other? It is very telling that a person would say that and think the
things that led to that post... The real problem is buried in there somewhere.
