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posted on Dec, 3 2010 @ 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by jontap

Funny how people have so much "faith" in these things without even a shred of VALID evidence on them...

Brainwashing is a very powerful tool that works very well... ]


Exactly how I feel.

The evidence of Christmas being stolen and turned into a gluttonous lie is free for all to see. But the man who points it out is usually deemed as some villian (Scrooge/Grinch type).

Indeed Santa is part of a brainwashing agenda...indeed he stands on nothing more then Soda sales and Department store tactics...indeed his current image is less then 200 years old...and yet, he is seen as a timeless symbol to be protected and honored.

Screw that...He is scum and his image is trademarked by greedy evil men.

Thanks for understanding.

MM




posted on Dec, 3 2010 @ 03:58 PM
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I do not take it hostile at all...a nice break in my day


A David Blaine is a magician...I guess I liken the concept of Santa to that as that is what he is to kids. Now I know magic is misdirection (a lie), but I still enjoy it.

I guess, in the end, it comes down to...we are lied to every damn day, by our govt. (the economy is on the upswing), by our workplace (No raises this year due to...you name it), by our spouses (not tonight, I have a headache...lol). I don't even think it has to be considered a lie, if you take the time to explain it, once you get to that point, that while the actuality of Santa may not exist, the spirit and magic do...for whatever holiday it is you celebrate this time of year.



posted on Dec, 3 2010 @ 04:03 PM
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HAHA!! That was great. Pretty impresive he got the jolly old fat man... and all his tiny raindeer. Wonder if you need a tag to hunt santa?



posted on Dec, 3 2010 @ 04:16 PM
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Oh...and the worst thing is...when you do tell him, the last thing on his mind will be "dad lied to me", no, indeed, it will most likely be..."Um, dad...does that mean less presents next year"!



posted on Dec, 3 2010 @ 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by BigFrigginAl
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Oh...and the worst thing is...when you do tell him, the last thing on his mind will be "dad lied to me", no, indeed, it will most likely be..."Um, dad...does that mean less presents next year"!


Lol...you may be right.

But since I never directly told him Santa was real, I have my defense ready for when he figures it out (or is let in on the secret).

I'll just remind him how I never lied to him about it, and that I was held against my will by the family. Then I'll link him to this thread as soon as he is old enough to hear about smacking Santa with snow shovels and see pictures of Santa dead under a hunter's foot.

That should clear my name in his eyes...I hope?

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!


edit on 3-12-2010 by Mr Mask because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 3 2010 @ 05:23 PM
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Santa is Satan and Christmas is the most pagan of all religions. The symbolism of Christmas is disgusting. First of all the tree represents God, Satan. The Star reps Lucifer as in pentagram. The tree decorations rep the body parts of enemies that were killed by the respective worshipers. The presents rep the offerings to the Gods, usually were human sacrifices.

Sadly Christmas is for the kids lol and they choose to honor children with reenactments of savage, pagan and cannibalistic rituals. Illuminati practice these occult rituals all the time, so enjoy your moment of "elitism". Voodoo and witchcraft. December 25th was the day of a pagan God which the Catholic church admits they borrowed and gained inspiration from.

Also it has been discovered Christ, or Yeshua bin Josif, was born sometime in May as the cattle were not in the manger when he was born. The star was not the star of David as which is taught but a 2500 year old reoccuring phenomena known as the sheinika.

LOL Peace.... bahumbug yourself !


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posted on Dec, 3 2010 @ 05:31 PM
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Well, well, well... Talking behind my back are you...

I think I now who's been a bad Mr Mask....


Seriously though. Santa is actually Sinter...
Crap ! I've always denied it and said they were two different characters.

They are actually diagnosed with a personality disorder. I must add... Did you know, us Dutch celebrate Saint Nicholas twice ? 5 December as Sinter Klaas and with Christmas only we call him kerstman .

I can relate to your thinking. It doesn't make sense to lie to a kid when you try to make an honest person out of them.



posted on Dec, 3 2010 @ 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by amc621

Originally posted by Hefficide
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~Heff


Satirical? Really? Is there ANYONE who doesn't realize that Christmas is commericalized at this point? As a father / parent aren't you responsible for teaching your kids right from wrong? Teach them what this holiday season is really about?

I did not attack, I gave my point of view of where I see this person's level of maturity. Pretty smart and nice with comments like "I would like to fight him thunderdome style" and "I would like to smash his teeth out with a shovel" hmmmm, Not sure what your definition of smart and nice, in my world comments like that don't come from smart and nice guys.


You've got it so wrong!

I've been doing a bit of digging on Mr Mask and all is not what it appears to be.

Mrs Claus has infiltrated ATS, has cleverly set up an account, posted and contributed to this site for many years now under the pseudo name of Mr Mask. Coming across as the nice person we believe he is, which I can now unfortunately tell you is not the case!

Mrs Claus's evil agenda has come into fruition and is clear for all to see!

She wants to destroy Christmas! She wants to put an end to all the joy and festivities we all love just to allow Mr Claus the equality and freedoms we all have. I say tough!

She’s had enough of what the world demands of him over many years now. With no pension rights, no sick leave and what does he get in return, mince pies and brandy! She sees it as slavery but she is just being selfish.

Unknown to many, she and Santa are part of the Elite and being eternals from being genetically altered by the Reptilians, she has had many years to plot, scheme and fulfill her agenda.

We are supposed to believe that Jesus was born on that day and that Santa, and the belief in him, is tantamount to worshiping an evil entity.

I mean come on, three Kings on Camels following a star! It was a Chinese lantern. I’ve seen a clip on YouTube all about this, she was behind it!

Wake up people!

Deny ignorance!.
.





edit: p.s. Mrs Clause i still want my ipod
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posted on Dec, 3 2010 @ 11:51 PM
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Sounds like somebody is jealous because Mrs Claus shot them down.........



posted on Dec, 3 2010 @ 11:53 PM
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The title of this thread is spiteful. Santa does NOT suck. Wow.



posted on Dec, 3 2010 @ 11:58 PM
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I agree. I have always had a problem with this whole Sants Clause thing. Do we even stop to think about what it is we are teaching our children??Probly not because it is the same thing that was taught to us and we just accepted it without even so much as questioning it. WTF, over? Is there really any need for this facade? Why do we do it? WHY!!! Because if we don't we won't fit in and our kids won't fit in, so we are bullied into going along to get along.



posted on Dec, 4 2010 @ 12:05 AM
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Explanation: So Santa blows instead???


Personal Disclosure: Ahha! Now I understand the going down chimneys bit! :shk:



posted on Dec, 4 2010 @ 12:14 AM
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Jeez why is everything a conspiracy to some people? If those story's are true about his existence he was obviously a good man at the time and dead now. If you want to blame anyone blame the corporations that use his image for personal gain. I don't make the best of money but I love playing Santa Clause for my 2 boys. It doesn't last that long what, until they're in 2nd grade? Enjoy it while it lasts, the only reason why people are bitching now is because of the economy. Nobody really bitched before that. What let me guess, The easter bunny is evil because we're gonna spend money on our children for easter. Halloween is next isn't it, now we have to spend money on all this candy and costumes and dont forget the 4th of july on all those fireworks I have spent as much on fireworks in the past then I have on christmas gifts. Oh, and dont forget turkey day or new years on all that food and alcohal you buy to celebrate. # money, im happy to have atleast been able to give my children the same experience I had growing up. Some things are best left unsaid. Let children enjoy it while it lasts because again, it doesn't last very long and you only do it a few times your whole life and someday you will look back and miss being young and having young adorable children that loved life to the fullest with no fear. That is the best feeling and they will have it until they're brought into reality.



posted on Dec, 4 2010 @ 12:19 AM
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S & F, Mr Mask.

No wonder you are a writer.

Yes, the whole Santa thing is brainwashing but unfortunately, as a parent, you can't get out of it without hurting your kids, as you said.

What a cunning plan! Maybe Blackadder (or was it Baldrick who used to say that?) is related to Santa, or they are one and the same.

I have observed that it is usually the poorest parents who spend the most, thereby getting into even more debt.
It is a vicious circle, for sure.

One thing I would like to see is parents teaching their children that Christmas is not just about Santa - maybe take your kids to help out at a food kitchen. Or get your kids to donate toys they no longer want to others. There are a lot of things we can do to educate our kids out of this situation (none of them easy).

That teaches kids invaluable lessons.



posted on Dec, 4 2010 @ 12:38 AM
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My wife and I decided about a year ago not to do the whole Santa thing. My little girl turns 3 in a couple weeks. She knows of Santa, in the same way she knows of the Smurfs and Clifford the Big Red Dog. She recognizes a Santa when she sees one, but we have never told her to expect Santa to come to our house, or that he brings kids presents on Christmas. Just yesterday, I took her to a coffee shop to get a chocolate chip cookie. The girl behind the counter asked my daughter if Santa was coming to her house. My daughter didn't really understand the question. It was as if someone asked if He-Man was coming to her house. It just didn't compute.

For us, Santa, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy, etc are simply going to be stories that some people like to pretend are real because it can be fun to do so. I see no reason to deceive my child about the nature of reality. I try to be as truthful with her as I can be, and there is really no good reason (tradition and societal norms aren't good reasons to do anything) that this topic should be any different.



posted on Dec, 4 2010 @ 02:46 AM
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In my opinion, when you deem he is old enough to understand, explain to him that Santa is not real and explain the history of Santa and make him understand that Santa is a fun mascot for Christmas and a metaphor for the spirit of giving. I think that it is better for him to hear it from his dad than to hear it from a child at school. Your child will probably respond better than you think if it comes from you.



posted on Dec, 4 2010 @ 03:00 AM
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I always told my son that we bought the presents and Santa just delivered them, like the postman. That way it explained why some poor children didn't get anything, or not very much, because their parents couldn't afford it. I always feel a little bit sad when I see all the adverts on tv in the run up to Christmas, knowing there are families who just can't buy some of the things their kids are wanting, or worse still, get themselves into a load of debt in order to give to their children. I think it's much better to be honest and tell them the money just isn't there.
We don't bother much with Christmas anymore in our house. Just hang the cards up and have a traditional Christmas dinner....no other decorations. Donated the tree and all decorations to the charity shop before last xmas. We do buy presents, but don't waste money on fancy wrapping paper between myself, husband and son....only for the grandchildren. Have cut down on the number of xmas cards send out too!



posted on Dec, 4 2010 @ 07:04 AM
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Out of respect for a very well written post, I won't reply as rudely as your attack on this defenseless holiday tradition. It's not 'Santa's' fault the world is turning into a miserable, pusillanimous, materialistic, copy of itself.
Symbols are what we make of them. I'm not stating that the associations that you make to Santa are wrong or irrelevant. I'm just saying you chose to make those associations, they're not absolute truths. Santa doesn't represent getting, he's about giving. Doing something nice for your loved ones, try it, you might like it. He doesn't necessarily represent rampant consumerism, but since he doesn't exsist to defend himself, he has no lawyers, and his image gets pasted everywhere to stimulate consumption. That's not his fault.

Man, if you live in a place where all you see is manure, maybe you ought to focus more positively and look for the roses that grow there. Afterall, how you perceive the world has a direct impact on how you see yourself.

Finally I want to wish you a heartfelt Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, if you lived nearby I'd invite you over for some homemade cookies and hot cocoa - show you how it's done, so to speak - but that's not the case. So accept this message in the spirit it was given, in the spirit of Christmas, as a gift of sorts from me to you. I hope Santa brings you something truly special this year, but I'd reccomend you try just using the holiday as an excuse or motivation to do something nice for the people you love. You might just find satisfaction a more pleasant experience than frustration.



posted on Dec, 4 2010 @ 07:12 AM
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Originally posted by backinblack
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A fully agree that christmas has been comercialised and we are almost forced to spend ridiculous amounts on presents most people probably don't need or desire..

It's the same with engagement rings..An idea created by a diamond company to increase sales..

BTW s&f for xmas cheer


After seeing the movie Blood Diamond, I think people should only buy vintage (used) rings. I think there should be more advertising for them.



posted on Dec, 4 2010 @ 07:13 AM
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I must admit, I too, become a Christmas nut this time of the year. I've done well this year with the spending though. But I must admit, I love the holiday decorating. I start with Halloween and move right into Christmas.





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