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The announcement came from Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT), the chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee. Lieberman said in a statement that Amazon's "decision to cut off Wikileaks now is the right decision and should set the standard for other companies Wikileaks is using to distribute its illegally seized material."
"Normally, we reserve that designation for groups that fit the traditional definition of terrorism, which is that they are using violence to achieve a political end,"
really, the documents aren’t going to hurt us that much.
But, at the end of the day, it does not, at least over the long term, adversely impact America’s power or prestige. Secretary Gates just does not buy into that. People don’t do business with America necessarily because they like us or even trust us. They do business with us because they must. We are the last, one, remaining, indispensable power.
Originally posted by burntheships
Its my opinion that this is a Drama being played out and it serves a purpose for those in high power.
Originally posted by burntheships
While there are still unanswered questions, IMO there is substantial cause to
question the motives of the Wikileaks operation.
I use Muckety to see all of the connections to Soros.
www.muckety.com...
And here is Soros with Stevens in the mix.
www.muckety.com... ap
And I could add that the "strangeness" factor hit red yesterday.
Originally posted by burntheships
Boon, and all....Cheers
Wikileaks...who is Wikileaks? Well this question has been thought provoking...here is what I have dugg up.
For all of you MSM fans, and its not news unless its mainstream I have searched far and wide and found you the
"gems" so you can stop with the "credible source" stuff.
online.wsj.com...
The controversial website WikiLeaks, which argues the cause of openness in leaking classified or confidential documents, has set up an elaborate global financial network to protect a big secret of its own—its funding...
In response, the site has established a complex system for collecting and disbursing its donations to obscure their origin and use, Mr. Assange said. Anchoring the system is a foundation in Germany established in memory of a computer hacker who died in 2001.
From there...we find the German Hacker
German über-Hacker Dies
Jul 30 2001
In Western Berlin, in the offices of the left-wing daily "die tageszeitung," fringe computer hobbyists are sitting at a conference table, sharing their knowledge of early computers and computer networks.
They followed the call of Wau Holland, a bearded, balding man in dungarees who looks more like an eco-warrior than an electronics enthusiast. The assembled group is about to found the Chaos Computer Club and go down in computing history....Read today, Holland’s editorial that appeared in the first issue of CCC’s magazine "Datenschleuder" back in 1984 appears almost visionary. For him and for the CCC, the computer was already not merely a technology but "the most important new medium." He held that "all existing media will be increasingly networked through computers, a networking which creates a new quality of media."
The first and foremost goal of the hackers’ association was to promote this new medium, by "distributing wiring diagrams and kits for cheap and universal modems." What should have earned the CCC a medal for the advancement of the information society, however, got him in conflict with the arcane German telecom law.
.......An online condolence book for Holland has over 450 entries so far.
themilitarystandard.com...
That establishes the fact that the foundation established for Wikileaks funding is The Wau Holland Foundation.
From there, we can find Soros, who has a jaded and dark history, that is not published much on the net. But, he is not the squeaky clean do good that some think.
Soros may be the biggest political fat cat of all time. Convicted in France of insider trading, Soros specializes in weakening or collapsing the currencies of entire nations for his own selfish interests. He is known as the man who broke the Bank of England. His power is such that his statements alone can cause currencies to go up or down....
The media consistently ignore the fact that this so-called “philanthropist” has had several brushes with the law as he has laid siege to national economies and currencies. Hard-working U.S. businessmen understand how Soros has made his money. In protesting a Soros appearance hosted by the University of Toledo, Edwin J. Nagle III, president and CEO of the Nagle Companies, highlighted “the immoral and unethical means by which he achieved his wealth.” He added, “I certainly didn’t see included in his bio the stories on how he collapsed whole country’s currencies for his own self interests so that many may suffer.”
Here, Soros signed a consent decree in United States District Court, in a Securities and Exchange Commission case involving stock manipulation, and was fined $75,000 by the Commodity Futures Trading Commission for holding positions “in excess of speculative limits.” Stories about Soros rarely, if ever, mention any of his legal problems
....Soros has categorically denied receiving money from drug cartels or any form of criminal activity. The fact remains, however, that at least some of his financial operations have been based offshore, in banking and financial centers that are widely reported to be considered conducive to money-laundering. The Soros fund is based in the Netherlands Antilles, a self-governing federation of five Caribbean islands. A CIA factbook describes the region as “a transshipment point for South American drugs bound for the US and Europe; money-laundering center.”
www.aim.org...
And finally, the clincher.
The linchpin of WikiLeaks's financial network is Germany's Wau Holland Foundation. WikiLeaks encourages donors to contribute to its account at the foundation, which under German law can't publicly disclose the names of donors. Because the foundation "is not an operational concern, it can't be sued for doing anything. So the donors' money is protected, in other words, from lawsuits," Mr. Assange said.
Originally posted by burntheships
That is a good question my freind.
It could go either way...I think. If Wikileaks is serving some nefarious purpose, if accomplished they
might move on to the next step. Or, they could use it to further the next step.
Originally posted by burntheships
reply to post by Jordan River
Your observation about war is spot on. I am not so sure that is not one of the desired outcomes from
all of the leaked cables.