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Do Single Cell/Bacteria Sentient Beings Talk to Each Other About Creationism/Evolution Debates?

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posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 03:07 PM
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Do plants talk to one another? You know, like in the old Doonesbury cartoons?

Can asparagus conspire amongst each the other?

More importantly, what's up with bacteria and single cell sentient beings having a forum in which they implant all these thoughts and philosophies into our heads?

This link came to me through the email. Not that I'm all that interested in discussing this web site in and of itself. But it got me wondering if this whole debate over Creationism/Evolution got started by bacteria and single cell sentient beings plotting to put divergent thoughts into our collective minds, via the microbiological level of our individual Ids?

Intelligent Bacteria: Cells are Incredibly Smart
www.cosmicfingerprints.com...

Is our human sum totality predicated on what bacteria and single cell entities are telling us to think?

Are you washing your hands more often, now that you have become more aware of how powerful bacteria can be?
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posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 03:15 PM
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After all we've done to plants and other organisms on our planet I hope like hell they don't.

It's like that M.K.Shamalamadingdong movie 'The Happening'.



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 03:26 PM
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That was


op...sure seems that the small are talking and at least trying to communicate ...we as humans should take note and at least ,try and put our best foot forward ....I wonder if bacteria have feet ...
.....peace



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 03:27 PM
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I wonder how much of this is linked to Quantum entanglement en.wikipedia.org...

Depends where you look at it. Im sure at every level of quantum to the biggest giant stars.. Theres some form of "communication" or else none of it would work nor stay up . Everything talks to each other one way or another . But what is this glue that connects it all in so many differnt forms thats sometimes its a science fiction movie ! Day by day this # gets weirder . Surley this is just the turbulance before hitting the event horizon of a unifed theory .. who knows. Cant wait to see what the hell tommorw brings lol. Reading some of these headlines on ATS honestly if i was from some other planet came to earth found a way to read human way of communication . I would be in shock and awe at the # that goes on in the world . But after you spend time on here you never wanna stay on such a planet. You would put it up there withi top 10 do not enter planets lol You'd actually put the effort in to warn other aleins out there lol "



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 03:34 PM
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Yep, Day of the Triffids. When these odd loooking plants sprout feet to take over the world.

Quantum entanglement? Sure, that works. When a single cell at one end of the human body vibrates, a doppelganger single cell at the other end of the human body likewise vibrates in kind. Sort of the Ma Bell of anatomical makeup.

We human bodies, as a whole, could learn something about the functions of electronic voting by watching the gadzillions of cells and bacterial entities vote without complications on each and every single thought.



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 03:36 PM
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By the way, they say a neutrino passes through our bodies without ever touching a cell or a bacterial entity. That's how small neutrinos are.

They say that if a neutrino actually crashed into one of our single cells, that would set off a chain reaction of combustion. A human body lighting up like a matchhead.

Wonder if the neutriinos talk to each other, if they communicate with single cells?



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 03:54 PM
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Uhh.. Sentient?

Just because they communicate doesn't mean they're sentient. Its all chemical reactions based on hormones.

Computers communicate.. They aren't sentient



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 04:12 PM
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Originally posted by fredcall
By the way, they say a neutrino passes through our bodies without ever touching a cell or a bacterial entity. That's how small neutrinos are.

They say that if a neutrino actually crashed into one of our single cells, that would set off a chain reaction of combustion. A human body lighting up like a matchhead.

Wonder if the neutriinos talk to each other, if they communicate with single cells?


I'd really like to see who "says" that neutrino interaction would cause combustion. And do they say the same about electron neutrino, tau neutrinos and muon neutrinos? Because a neutrino only interacts through the weak force and gravity. It has a right handed helicity and has an extremely low mass, on the order of 2.2 eV An electron, on the other hand, has a rest mass of about a half a megaelectronvolt, about a quarter million times as much.. If you're not familiar with eVs and MeVs as measures of mass, in kilograms, the electron has a mass of about 9x10^-31 kilograms. That's .00000000000000000000000000000000009 kg.That's not much. The neutrino is so small, it makes no sense to even talk about a radius. It is treated as a point particle, although its charge radius can be experimentally calculated. But because of the problems of gauge variance, describing how would put everyone in this area code to sleep. But if you really must know, look at # K. Fujikawa, B. W. Lee and A. I. Sanda, Phys. Rev. D6 (1972), 2923[APS].



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by BobbinHood
Uhh.. Sentient?

Just because they communicate doesn't mean they're sentient. Its all chemical reactions based on hormones.

Computers communicate.. They aren't sentient


I don't know about that. You have to check it out with the Singularity whether computers are...or will be sentient beings.



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by 4nsicphd

Originally posted by fredcall
By the way, they say a neutrino passes through our bodies without ever touching a cell or a bacterial entity. That's how small neutrinos are.

They say that if a neutrino actually crashed into one of our single cells, that would set off a chain reaction of combustion. A human body lighting up like a matchhead.

Wonder if the neutriinos talk to each other, if they communicate with single cells?


I'd really like to see who "says" that neutrino interaction would cause combustion. And do they say the same about electron neutrino, tau neutrinos and muon neutrinos? Because a neutrino only interacts through the weak force and gravity. It has a right handed helicity and has an extremely low mass, on the order of 2.2 eV An electron, on the other hand, has a rest mass of about a half a megaelectronvolt, about a quarter million times as much.. If you're not familiar with eVs and MeVs as measures of mass, in kilograms, the electron has a mass of about 9x10^-31 kilograms. That's .00000000000000000000000000000000009 kg.That's not much. The neutrino is so small, it makes no sense to even talk about a radius. It is treated as a point particle, although its charge radius can be experimentally calculated. But because of the problems of gauge variance, describing how would put everyone in this area code to sleep. But if you really must know, look at # K. Fujikawa, B. W. Lee and A. I. Sanda, Phys. Rev. D6 (1972), 2923[APS].




So, you're suggesting that there are gadzillions of sentient beings within each neutrino voting on how the neutrino will think and communicate with other neutrinos? Yes, you might have a point there. When does all the smallness end?



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by BobbinHood
Uhh.. Sentient?

Just because they communicate doesn't mean they're sentient. Its all chemical reactions based on hormones.

Computers communicate.. They aren't sentient


How do you know they're not sentient? They used to think that animals couldn't think, but they clearly do. For all we know, bacteria could have their own little world going on.

The microcosm and the macrocosm.
Whoville might even exist in some form



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 05:13 PM
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Trees are actually really smart organisms; it's not that they have a brain, but that every cell in the tree communicates with each other to perform different tasks. Take for example fruit. When trees first came into existence there was no way they could spread themselves out, after all, they don't have muscles, thus, no movement. And if a tree was to produce viable offspring, it couldn't just drop its seed directly in front of itself, because the little seed would be not get the proper sunlight, and the soil's nutrients would already be occupied by the giant mother tree. But trees found a way, and began an interconnected relationship with primates. Trees began producing fruit; a primate would notice its vibrant colors, grab it, eat its delicious insides, and swallow the seeds hidden deep inside the fruit. The seed, covered in a very thin mucous layer, to protect it from the gastric acids within the stomach, would travel along with the primate, presumably, miles away from mother tree, and be eventually pooped out by said primate. Feces, of course, would act as fetilizer, and the little seedling would grow into a new tree, with its own sunlight and nutrient-rich soil. Trees really are amazing things; however, it's the community of cells and organisms within the tree that help one another out.



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by ledzeppelin489
Trees are actually really smart organisms; it's not that they have a brain, but that every cell in the tree communicates with each other to perform different tasks. Take for example fruit. When trees first came into existence there was no way they could spread themselves out, after all, they don't have muscles, thus, no movement. And if a tree was to produce viable offspring, it couldn't just drop its seed directly in front of itself, because the little seed would be not get the proper sunlight, and the soil's nutrients would already be occupied by the giant mother tree. But trees found a way, and began an interconnected relationship with primates. Trees began producing fruit; a primate would notice its vibrant colors, grab it, eat its delicious insides, and swallow the seeds hidden deep inside the fruit. The seed, covered in a very thin mucous layer, to protect it from the gastric acids within the stomach, would travel along with the primate, presumably, miles away from mother tree, and be eventually pooped out by said primate. Feces, of course, would act as fetilizer, and the little seedling would grow into a new tree, with its own sunlight and nutrient-rich soil. Trees really are amazing things; however, it's the community of cells and organisms within the tree that help one another out.


Yes, I agree that the various orgqanism parts of a tree all combine to make the tree do what trees do.

But that's not getting to the crux of my original suggestion: that bacteria and single cells communicate and plan and create debate within our individual collective minds.

For example, the argument over Creationism versus Evolution, is it possible that single cells and bacteria create our beliefs and perceptions on choosing one side of the other. I mean, single cells and bacteria have been around longer than homo sapien. Who would know more about the origins of the planet Earth from either the Crationist or the Evolutionist's point of view?

Does the majority rule in the single cell and bacter realms to create our beliefs and thoughts and philosophies and so on? Because single cells and bacteria are craftier than we generally give them credit for being.



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 06:05 PM
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Another way to look at this: Do Christians have different sentient single cells and bacteria from Buddhists or Jews or Muslims or Hindus or so on and so forth.



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 06:14 PM
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Okay, let me take this discussion a step further by posting the question posed to me in the email I received. Does this help anyone to get their bacteria and single cell entities to come up with ideas? Here goes........

For years I had this idea that cells were self-reproducing blobs of protein. Maybe you did too. Turns out they're *way* smarter than that. You will be amazed at this video. Dr. Bonnie Bassler from Princeton University presents a beautiful TED talk on how bacteria communicate with each other by forming words out of simple molecules.

She also explains...
* How bacteria strategize together on how to 'take down' their host
* Elegant systems of bioluminescence
* Symbiotic relationships between organisms
* Cells speak multiple languages
www.cosmicfingerprints.com...

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posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 06:51 PM
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You might want to read a book called the Swarm by Robert Frank Schätzing

Link :The Swarm

It really is a good read,
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posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 07:06 PM
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Originally posted by Sinter Klaas
You might want to read a book called the Swarm by Robert Schätzing

Link :The Swarm

It really is a good read,


Actually, The Swarm is by Frank Shatzing..................



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 07:09 PM
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Ohh... My bad.


I actually noticed and I was going to change it but I got distracted and forgot. Sorry about that consider it changed .

Have you read it or are you just being a smartass


Really good book IMO.



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by Sinter Klaas
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Ohh... My bad.


I actually noticed and I was going to change it but I got distracted and forgot. Sorry about that consider it changed .

Have you read it or are you just being a smartass


Really good book IMO.


Unless you come up with a relevance of the book to the question at hand, what's the sense. Chrissakes, the book is over 7 or 800 pages long. At least pick a chapter that has some import to the conversation.

By the way, have you read War and Peace?



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 07:25 PM
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And I'm just presupposing here, but I think you could have chosen Death and the Devil by Shatzing as a novel slightly more in tune with this discussion.



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