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Originally posted by CIAGypsy
There are numerous threads on ATS about "secret societies." I've yet to see ANY that show verifiable proof of some evil agenda or practice. Personally, I am a member of 3 societies - two of which are considered "secret." In all 3 cases, the agenda is very much humanitarian and/or personal spiritual evolution in nature. None are about control or doing evil, wicked deeds...
Originally posted by Aeons
reply to post by CIAGypsy
As to who elites are - I would assume myself this group would consist of people with money, power, force and influence who have formed coteries to persevere what they have and pass it to those they have picked, appointed or created to take and continue that force.
People who by their nature have general tried to enforce some type of systematic caste system to facilitate keeping others from “diluting” that power by equaling or surpassing them.
“Self-preservation” is seconded to the group culture.
While people seem to believe that these groups are families, by nature not all of the family of any group is included in it. There simply would be too many then, and that is clearly not the case.
While I am sure that there are people who are working to do their best for others, self-preservation wins at the end of the day over paternalism.edit on 2011/1/4 by Aeons because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by dontreally
reply to post by CPYKOmega
rothschilds are saplings compared to the traditional noble houses; capetian, massimo, etc.
Originally posted by Cesearesque
Getsmart,
I read through some of your posts in this thread. Not all of them because it's 11 freaking pages! It seems like you have had personal experience with these people and lived to tell about it. You seem pretty passionate about your cause and knowledgeable. Have you considered going public with your story? If not, why not?
Originally posted by Cesearesque
Wow! I'm so sorry for all you have been through. I can't even begin to imagine! I don't know if it exists or not, but have you thought about joining a support group of others who have been through the same thing? Based upon the original posts, it would seem like this thing happens frequently or (at least) there are many victims. Surely there are support groups out there for people who have suffered like this?
Originally posted by Cesearesque
Getsmart,
OMG, that is so sad!! I can't imagine how you must have coped! What evil, evil people! Your post also made me think about CIAGypsy. If she is one of them, then she must have experienced the same horrors, do you think? I sent her a PM but she hasn't responded to me. Oh well! I just can't understand how someone could defend those demons!
Originally posted by Antoniastar
When we are talking about an "abuse of authority", that is a matter of perspective. I have a feeling that the Rulers of Earth don't see it as 'abuse'. They most likely see it as a 'right' and possibly even a 'requirement' to deceive and thieve our men-at-arms and the families they leave behind. An infiltrated occult element has most assuredly slithered into the Military Industrial Complex. Whether we label it Nazi or Roman or Zionist, there's something even more deeply embedded into our world government...
Whether Nazi or "Military Complex firms" is not the focus but whether the occult is their head. Exactly. And, no, the occult and a "fascination with the powers of Hell" isn't exclusive to Nationalsozialismus. It's very likely that black magick practices entice every social order and party in existence.
Originally posted by Getsmart
Many more yet are embedded in the higher echelons of Freemasonry worldwide. The lower ranks of the Blue Lodges are for the greater part entirely innocent, and they consist in the vast majority of Freemasons. Yet unwittingly they serve the very Zionists at the top who have deceived them about the nature of their Mission. Those at the 33rd degree have risen by their ability to set aside their own moral conscience and venerate a higher authority, Lucifer.