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posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 01:25 PM
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I say they need to make the unemployment laws more strict actually. too much free hand outs going out. Whats the point of finding a job when I can just kick back and get my check every month. Im aware in some instances people are pysically unable to work,but thats what disablity is for. The fact that someone is too good to make minimum wage or too good to work hard labor is bull#. If you want to survive you have to strive and fight to make a living instead of being meek and uneducated and lazy. I feel no sympathy for some of these lazy bums out there, its because they're lazy and can just collect checks and get fat is the reason other countries loath americans. the real reason unemployment is so high..is because its so easy to collect a check without earning it.




posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 01:32 PM
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I'm an employer and have hundreds of people on payroll, I do see how they come and "work" for a limited amount of time and then we spend countless hours providing paperwork to the state and gov't to prove they did in fact "work" even if it was for a few weeks and they chose to leave on their own accord.

so i would say i have approx 110 or so clllecting right now as i type.

thats a good slice of the pie and a sorry view of the cross section on the american "workforce"



pull your own weight: www.youtube.com...



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by chiponbothshoulders
reply to post by Darkrunner
 
well,in order to collect unemployment bennies where I am,you have to submit verifiable work search evidence for them to investigate before one collects.

Don't generalize please?.



Not True!, I know two people who are unemployment one has been on for about a year and a half the other is on for about a year, They do not look for jobs nor are they required to submit anything saying they did and the checks keep on comeing, Both of these people spend their unemployment on Alcohol, Pot and video games. and do under the table side jobs for rent money with the attitude like some of you saying well im going to milk and get and some of my stolen money back. The Feeling of self entitlement some have is amazing to me

There are jobs out there just because you feel that job is not good enough for you doesnt give you the right to sit around and collect money for doing nothing.

Take responsibility for your own life and stop living off of the system. In other words MAN UP. stop feeling entitled the world owes you nothing.

Take the part time job as the walmart greeter or burger flipper so you can go after the jobs that supposedly dont hire unemployed people. Then you don't have to lie and that would show the potential employer that you are willing to do what it takes to be responsible instead of a lazy LEACH!.

By the way to all you unemployed people on this thread saying its hard to find a job and nobody is hiring. What are you doing on ATS instead of looking for a job? Yeah its pretty hard to find a job while screwing off on the internet all day.



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 01:35 PM
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Oh great so now its not just "Get off your asses you lazy bastards and WORK" - now it is also "When you DO work we will bitch and complain about all the paperwork we have to file and blame it all on the employee who we taunted and forced to work for us in the first place".

Seriously mate, if that's your attitude towards workers I am surprised they don't quit in droves. That's called being a tyrant.



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by Kryties

Originally posted by doom27
A prime real life example is this guy i know. He gets social security and disability for.... Anxiety. Yeah that's right, a 21 year old #head who has never worked gets over a thousand dollars a month to sit on his ass, drink, and smoke weed all day. And he gets foodstamps.


I suffer from clinical anxiety. How DARE you claim that he is just 'sitting on his ass'. Have you ever had an anxiety attack? It is like having a heart attack - the symptoms are basically the same. I have particular problems in public - I can't walk out the door without setting off another attack some days.

Try walking a mile in HIS shoes. I guarantee it'll wipe that smug smile off your arrogant face.


There are work at home jobs, Stop trying to think of excuses.



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 01:45 PM
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No, they work for a few weeks, then disappear.

In my state ANYONE and EVERYONE is eligible for unemployment even if they quit voluntarily.
All you have to do is work 36 hrs a year.

And our office is innundated with claims everyday, 6 today alone, maybe I can hire a few unemployed people to process my UC paperwork...

And YES, please get off your lazy asses and work if you can! If it's legit then I would be an ass to criticize.

Americans are going downhill fast in terms of personal responsibility, initiaive and etchics.

Our great grandparents would vomit if they saw us pissing all this away.



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 01:45 PM
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This is truly tragic for a lot of families trying to survive..These republicans are so anti american they should be on a terror list..
The people who voted for them in the last mid terms will be screaming bloody murder in a few weeks watch and see..They deserve what they get for voting in these NAZIS..



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by Kryties

Originally posted by Erasurehead

To start with, look for job postings in other cities on the internet.

The internet they cannot afford because they are on welfare? That internet?


Yes that internet. The one that public libraries offer free access to. The one that you can go to a friends house to use their computer to search for a job.


There are plenty of sites that post job openings. Send your resume when you find something that suits you. If they call you for an interview make travel arrangements to get to that city. You can use some unemployment money to purchase a bus ticket. If you don't have the money for a bus ticket borrow it or put it on a credit card.

What about those many unemployed people WITHOUT access to someone else with money or a credit card?


Pawn or sell some of your stuff to get the money. Use some unemployment cash. FIND A WAY.


Stay at a low priced hotel in the city while you go through the interview process. If you get the job, then you will have the money to relocate. If not, you hop back on the bus to go home and try again.

And when you get home you will have to starve for 2 weeks because you spent all your money on a bus ticket and a room for the night.


A bit dramatic don't you think? No friends or family that will feed you? If not there are plenty of charities that will feed you if you're that bad off.


So, anyone want to answer my question? How long should someone be allowed to be on unemployment benefits? When do you cut them off? Anyone....anyone...

Actually someone else asked me the same question and I answered it - but here it is for you again since you cannot seem to figure out the search function: You give them as long as necessary. You also make special efforts to provide training centers and specialised job-hunting centers that cater for getting the long-term unemployed back in the workforce (assuming there is no disability or injury to the person).

It's really really really simple when you put your mind to it - thing is one blames the other and nobody works together so therefore the unemployed get screwed.


Did you learn to use the search function before or after you created the thread about the time traveler in the 1928 chaplin film even though there was already a huge thread about it on ATS already?

As long as necessary. Good one. So if it takes 5-10 years that's ok?
The fact is just about anyone could relocate to find a job but most people would rather make excuses why they can't.
edit on 12/2/2010 by Erasurehead because: Fix formatting



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 01:46 PM
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Like what?

The only work at home jobs I've ever seen are people who get to have already worked for the company and then allowed to work at home.

Unless you mean telemarketing... And I don't see that as gainful employment.



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 01:47 PM
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Yeah we need a UC Police
that would actually be a good govt expansion

or a UC Fraud anonymous hotline 1-800-UCFRAUD!!!!



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 01:50 PM
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absolutely tragic for families legitimately in need.

HORRID

I try and help in my community if I can, personally.

poor poor kids that are affected. makes them stronger I hope...



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by SilentStigma


There are work at home jobs, Stop trying to think of excuses.


LMAO what the "spam 50,000 people a day from your home computer and earn $1" jobs? Or the ones that require prior training and expertise (which costs money and requires the anxious person to put themselves in a horrible situation that sets off their anxiety) to be able to operate from home? Which one are you referring to?

Stop thinking up excuses to hate unemployed people.



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 01:59 PM
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Originally posted by AdAbsurdum
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Like what?

The only work at home jobs I've ever seen are people who get to have already worked for the company and then allowed to work at home.

Unless you mean telemarketing... And I don't see that as gainful employment.


Well i'm a network administrator, and on the side, i do the residential IT stuff for our area. I have meet numerous people who work online, and that's how its always been, never worked for the company before.

I will say though, there is a big difference from someone who doesn't work, and someone who can't work. If someone literally cannot move, there is no way for them to work, meaning they would be screwed. Benefits would be great for these people and these people only.

For unemployment, some people just need to get off their rears and find a job. If there would be unemployment benefits, i think it would be idea for a very short time limit. Maybe 2 weeks to a month.

I am but a kid, i worked since i was able (16) in fast food. I finally decided i hated it, and quit. I had nothing, it was a bad idea. Within the 3 days i found under the counter jobs like landscaping, fixing computer, etc. The moment i left my job i went from 3 towns south to 3 towns north from my town. That means 7 towns, i applied everywhere, even fast food again just in case.

I found a job as a cook within that week, but after my interviews, i met with a person who owned the local IT company. Needless to say i got an interview and now i've been working as a Network administrator for years, hell i'm posting at my job now!

My point is, people who seek unemployment should be seeking employment, the disabled, should be seeking disability. Its a big difference.

The disabled do not have a choice, I would gladly help them with my taxes.



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 02:00 PM
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Originally posted by Erasurehead

The fact is just about anyone could relocate to find a job but most people would rather make excuses why they can't.


The fact is that none of your arguments hold any water when held up to scrutiny.



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by Kryties

Originally posted by SilentStigma


There are work at home jobs, Stop trying to think of excuses.


LMAO what the "spam 50,000 people a day from your home computer and earn $1" jobs? Or the ones that require prior training and expertise (which costs money and requires the anxious person to put themselves in a horrible situation that sets off their anxiety) to be able to operate from home? Which one are you referring to?

Stop thinking up excuses to hate unemployed people.


Yeah I love how these people whine about people on unemployment but when it is there turn to NEED it they will be screaming for it..And wait till they try to find work when there isnt any work,they will whine even louder for there benefits...how people can wish bad on someone else is just beyond me...



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 02:19 PM
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There are plenty just freaking google work at home jobs and watch the results, its not all telemarketing by the way I have a friend doing a work at home gig sending out mailers for a company. Also even as a telemarketer why do you not see that as gainful employment? Here the definition of Gainful Employment according to yourdictionary.com

gainful employment:
Employment that is beneficial both to the employer and the employee.

So Telemarketing wouldnt be a gainful employment? How so? because you think you are above it? It still puts money in your pocket food on your table.



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 02:21 PM
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If and when it is my time to need it, I will use it for a month or two, find a new job, and move on with my life

the fact is 99 weeks of unemployment are allowed to be given out, that is more than substantial

and to the post asking how they apply online without internet that they cant afford

a) use your 99 weeks of unemployment to get the internet
b) go to a public library where access is free
c) find a friend with internet, stop making excuses and go make something for yourself

stop saying fast food jobs etc.. are scarce , the turnover is tremendous and your opportunity will most certainly arise in two years if you are adamant on getting a job

anything less is irresponsible, I took some time away from posting thought about it and ultimately came to the same conclusion. Two years of unemployment is plenty, If you fail to do everything in your power to work somewhere, including moving to a new location (do not counter with how can they afford it? 99 weeks of unemployment!, put some away each week 25 dollars or so thats 2500, rent an suv from avis (I work here) for 400 a week unlimited miles and move!) than you cannot claim that a system that has supported you work free fro almost 2 years is broke. does it mean it will be easy, no! but its not easy to work either, and we support ourselves and those who need it as well. There is no excuse for not doing something in that length of time , Unemployment is given to those who are considered able members of the workforce, if you are not an able member and are getting unemployment then you are committing fraud against taxpayers anyways.


99 weeks is plenty, if the amount of energy pissing and moaning about unemployment running out on you was spent towards finding a job, then you would have one.
If you spent two years gainfully seeking employment chances are you
a) don't have a job because you aren't fit to be employed and should seek other government assistance
or
b) employed



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posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 02:24 PM
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Originally posted by Kryties

Originally posted by Erasurehead

The fact is just about anyone could relocate to find a job but most people would rather make excuses why they can't.


The fact is that none of your arguments hold any water when held up to scrutiny.


The fact is that none of your EXCUSES hold any water when held up to scrutiny.



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by SilentStigma
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So Telemarketing wouldnt be a gainful employment? How so? because you think you are above it? It still puts money in your pocket food on your table.


Telemarketing requires a special form of stomach - not everyone can sit there and listen to abuse being hurled at them all day.



posted on Dec, 2 2010 @ 02:33 PM
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