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Originally posted by whatevername
In my view I do not have to add 'in my view' because this is not a viewpoint.
If you had read the articles I posted you would have found out that:
- The protocols are proven to be manufactured. Earlier writings are found that closely resemble the text, implicating that the protocols are generated from these books.
- The conspirators that have ordered for this piece of writing have been traced by independent journalists.
This seems to me like 100% proof it's forgery.
Another logical argument that I added:
If you are making plans like that you are soooo stupid to even write em down.
Come on, you guys can understand this, right?
And if not, please be so polite to do your own research before replying with BS.
As a side note, I think Zionism is racist and we should definitely help the Palestinians.
However my opinion is that we should not do this by expressing the same racism vs. Israel, because that is just dumb.edit on 1-12-2010 by whatevername because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by whatevername
Hi all,
I have seen quite a bit of discussions about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion on these forums, and many people use its content to help prove a zionist conspiracy and for justification of anti-semitism .
After doing some research on this subject, I have come to the conclusion that these documents must be fake.
These are my arguments:
1. If you are planning to take over the world by means as described in the Protocols so openly, you are one hell of an idiot to leak this most important top secret document even before the plan comes into action.
2. For some reason there has been an extreme amount of antisemitism in history. I find it not hard to believe that books like this are created in the imagination of people.
3. A number of journalists and researchers have pointed out that a lot of the text is derived from other works, as explained in this link: emperors-clothes.com...
4. The real reason there are so many rich jews, is that they have had no social security for many centuries (no home country)
Here is the original Israeli account of what happened when they bought Israel:
www.zionism-israel.com...
That being said, I still believe in an evil conspiracy, and I still think things happening in Palestina are not very correct (from both sides)
I believe antisemitism, and racism in general are due to our need for categorical solutions for problems, and is never a good solution for individuals.
I also believe that this mechanism is used by politicians a lot to gain popularity easily.
So, can we all agree that the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a forgery now?
Another link on the origin of the Protocols:
www.notbored.org...edit on 1-12-2010 by whatevername because: added link
Originally posted by haterproof
Belief in the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion is a perfect example of what happens when hate and feeble mindedness meet google search. The result is a false substantiation of predisposed anti-semetism. Of course it is a forgery but there's no telling that to some people for they believe Hitler pooped sunshine and unicorns. I suspect most of the hate peddlers know that it's a work of fiction anyway but rely on the ignorance of their audience not to look things up.
Originally posted by wcitizen
Originally posted by whatevername
In my view I do not have to add 'in my view' because this is not a viewpoint.
If you had read the articles I posted you would have found out that:
- The protocols are proven to be manufactured. Earlier writings are found that closely resemble the text, implicating that the protocols are generated from these books.
- The conspirators that have ordered for this piece of writing have been traced by independent journalists.
This seems to me like 100% proof it's forgery.
Another logical argument that I added:
If you are making plans like that you are soooo stupid to even write em down.
Come on, you guys can understand this, right?
And if not, please be so polite to do your own research before replying with BS.
As a side note, I think Zionism is racist and we should definitely help the Palestinians.
However my opinion is that we should not do this by expressing the same racism vs. Israel, because that is just dumb.edit on 1-12-2010 by whatevername because: (no reason given)
I'm afraid I have to disagree - it is only an opinion. Other scholars disagree, and have compelling reasons for doing so. See the Preface and Introduction to the Protocols ( Victor Marsden translation).
www.biblebelievers.org.au...
I believe these are not fiction at all, but are the horrendous truth of what is going on in our world right now. The 'Elders' are Jewish fanatic extremists and are more than three-quarters of the way to achieving their evil goal.
Read them, look at what is happening - it's obvious. THEY ARE NOT FAKE.
edit on 1-12-2010 by wcitizen because: (no reason given)