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Giant Stealth Planet May Explain Rain of Comets from Solar System's Edge

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posted on Dec, 1 2010 @ 08:30 PM
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Already alerted.

Same person (??) was on earlier this evening (U.S. EST) different name. Probably same IP.

Staff are dealing......




posted on Dec, 1 2010 @ 08:43 PM
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They put me on notice for speaking explainable repeatable truth, yet they star and flag those with wild unproven dreams of impossibilities.

This world is so just and fair, it must be the only world of its kind.

Sorry to break a bubble, but if you think you can skip a rock across the Atlantic Ocean far enough to reach land and call that 'intelligent contact with another entity' then you have every reason to believe it's physically possible for an alien intelligent life form to have ever visited our insignificant planet orbiting an insignificant star in an insignificant arm of an insignificant galaxy in an insignificant local insignificant galaxy group.

The math is so insurmountable it renders thoughts outside the box insignificant, and explanations of the counter even more insignificant.



posted on Dec, 1 2010 @ 08:56 PM
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just cuz they admit to a "planet x" if it happened doesnt mean its the same planet x u think it is thats gonna come and kill us all



posted on Dec, 1 2010 @ 08:59 PM
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did you even read my post?



posted on Dec, 1 2010 @ 09:07 PM
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When you're dealing with mult/inter dimensional Beings, math doesn't matter.

But I loved your rock-across-the-ocean-reaching-land analogy. Brilliant. But in my opinion, wrong in this case


To Weed,

That moron crashed my computer with that link. I have no doubt it is the OneWorldGovernment (or something like that) idiot.
I felt like I was 5-years old calling for my mommy every time I alerted a Mod today!

Geeze....for the amount of money we spend to be members here, you'd think we'd attract a better class of trolls



posted on Dec, 1 2010 @ 09:16 PM
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I appreciate your admiration for Kepler. I am not putting him nor you down. I'm just saying.....all these scientists, mathematician, astronomer or whatever will be what sun-dials were to clocks.

Their ways, methods, findings will be laughed at.
Sure, it serves for a semi-understanding now for us Neanderthals but they're not even close to right. Again, just my opinion.



posted on Dec, 1 2010 @ 09:21 PM
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Originally posted by weedwhacker


How could something that is LESS massive than our Sun, AND 30,000 times farther away, influence the Earth in any way???



By dislodging comets from the Oort cloud one of which may in the fullness of time interact with the Earth, does that answer your question?



posted on Dec, 1 2010 @ 09:22 PM
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Your Sedna post was very well displayed and tutorialized (is that even a word?)
Much appreciated and job well done (only cause I believe what you're saying of course)



posted on Dec, 1 2010 @ 09:24 PM
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I already understand the Oort cloud connection.


If you had read (you did read the full context, right?) ...the part I was responding to....

The person claimed that this possible new planet, orbiting in the vicinity of the Oort cloud, was DIRECTLY causing earthquakes, sunspots, and a myriad of other nonsense claims. Hurricanes (?)....acne...(I made that one up), because I forget all the other things claimed....but, certainly one could (if one wished) link to the post I replied to, and see for oneself...couldn't one???
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posted on Dec, 1 2010 @ 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien
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As to Kepler's Law,

Why is it they deemed, un-deemed and now want to redeem Pluto as a planet if Kepler's Law is so helpful? We can't even figure crap out in our own galaxy yet we THINK we can ascertain info on objects further out?
Really. Is that how this works? Just guess until it's proven wrong?


It even works for Pluto. In the case of Pluto, by the way, its demotion to "dwarf planet" was due to the fact that they decided a real planet needed to be approximately spherical under the influence of its own gravity. Not because they somehow missed something important, or that all scientists so far were idiots - they just changed the definition of planet to require more mass.

You really need to understand things like that before you use it as your one example. Oh, and it's not "just guess until it's proven wrong", if you think that, then you have even less grounding in the sciences than I thought already. You really ought to put down "dancing with the stars" and get an algebra book out - it's way more fun than sudoku, and it opens the world for you.



posted on Dec, 1 2010 @ 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by Char-Lee
But the orbit of this body was a surprise to scientists so why not others.

Sedna has the longest orbital period of any known object in the Solar System, calculated at between 11,800 and 12,100 years
Look at the picture of it's orbit. en.wikipedia.org...


Its orbit is all trans-Neptunian, and more or less in the plane. There are other dwarf planets out there too, the question is, is there a biggie like Jupiter.

You'll note that it doesn't enter the inner system, and won't.



posted on Dec, 1 2010 @ 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by buddybaney

Nasa may soon confirm planet "X" !!




YEAH RIGHT !!!
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posted on Dec, 1 2010 @ 09:36 PM
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Originally posted by W3RLIED2
Sedna is an excellent example of why the Nemesis/Tyche objects would be of extreme importance to monitor. Not because the planetary objects would have an influence on us... but because the dense object that put them in their radical orbits might. And that means a veritable hail storm of comets could have been hurled at us in the past and potential can in the future if it decides to disturb the inner or outer Oort cloud again

What I mean by that is that if there truly is a planetary body, or a dark star that is more massive than Jupiter, it's not really a matter of if we'll get hit by comets and Oort objects. It would entirely be a matter of when. We all know what the theories are at present.


Well put, as is this:



It's my interpretation that if such a star did exist it would certainly help explain the outer planetary bodies in their crazy orbits around our sun. It also is a little scarier to think about what happens if the dense object that hypothetically dragged small (or large) planets into these radical orbits, also is on a similar elliptical orbit... which to me makes pretty good sense that they would have been influenced by such a body.


This is sort of a let down:


2012 is the time frame according to multiple documented sources, and those theories are all relatively well known now.


2012 will end just like any other year, only with a new president. Let's hope it's someone competent. I don't care who. The 2012 election, according to Heinlein's timeline, is the last one we'll have, because a religious dictatorship will arise in the aftermath of an economic upheaval. I'd say he's more right than most prophets. All hail RAH!



posted on Dec, 1 2010 @ 09:43 PM
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I never believed the whole planet X thing. I did when I first heard about it, but then we were supposedly supposed to be able to see it with the naked eye in march (may?) of 2010. That didn't happen.
I figured if something that massive was headed towards earth, someone would've spotted it years ago. I can't imagine nothing to see in the sky, then all of a sudden one day it just pops up.



posted on Dec, 1 2010 @ 09:52 PM
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i read a story by nasa that they suspect our star is a binary starsystem.

www.spacedaily.com...
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posted on Dec, 1 2010 @ 09:59 PM
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It's my interpretation that if such a star did exist it would certainly help explain the outer planetary bodies in their crazy orbits around our sun. It also is a little scarier to think about what happens if the dense object that hypothetically dragged small (or large) planets into these radical orbits, also is on a similar elliptical orbit... which to me makes pretty good sense that they would have been influenced by such a body.


Not at all, small bodies so far away from our sun would obviously have less planer influence from our sun, logic dictates to me, thus orbits could look arbitrary as well as planetary rotations. But you see they are trapped by the sun after all, are they not? Suppose the outer Neptune was not really part of our sun's stellar cloud that formed it's planets but captured from random local interstellar dust of the same relative period of ('insanity'), OK I just threw that one in to see who's paying attention. The same relative period of universal cooling to the point atoms could bind, and thus form molecules and BIG things.

We have detected minute traveling planetoids from the Heliopause and beyond to what some believe the Ort, and yet some want me to believe we fail to detect a dark star the same distance away 4 times the size of Jupiter because it wears dark clothes in the back ally.

Oh this is a good chapter for my next essay, thank you all!



posted on Dec, 1 2010 @ 09:59 PM
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Since the demotion of Pluto to the status of a dwarf-planet, any new discovery would be "IX."

Orbital pertubations of Neptune should've been evidence of a mass outside its' orbit but being human, we've got to see what's causing this disturbance to deem it real.



posted on Dec, 1 2010 @ 10:01 PM
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I often think that when our science organizations release these really well detailed postulations and when the networks promote these "maybe" stories that they're often actually telling you exactly what's happening. It's an easy way of informing us without actually changing the paradigme. Just think about how many of these types of stories have been released recently. Word up. You might call me nieve. I prefer, "optimistic".

Wiki.



posted on Dec, 1 2010 @ 10:12 PM
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im fairly certain if it is in the oort cloud at the moment, we have almost nothing to worry about. The oort cloud is enormously far away.



posted on Dec, 1 2010 @ 10:24 PM
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Strange that they would call this companion "Nemesis"?

Nemesis, the goddess of divine retribution against those who succumb to arrogance before god. Some would call this the age of arrogance before god.

But then they call it Tyche the god of destiny, the god of luck.

What are they trying to tell us.

Peace.
ALS
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