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Originally posted by rogersune
American are stupid and arrogant.
They don't accept the fact that Taiwan is a part of China.
I will give some advice to U.S. government and people: don't forget Korean War and Vietnam War.
If you want to invade or conquer China, you will fail and lose your people's lives and wealth.
Chinese people will never let West countries to invade China and kill Chinese people as they did in 19th and 20 centuries. In 1900, 8 strongest nations, including USA, Russia, Britain, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Spain invaded China, killed many Chinese people in China's capital--Beijing, and burned China's most beautiful royal palace--Yuan Ming Yuan. Every Chinese people know and remember this fact. We will revenge.
Remember: China is not Iraq. China is not Iran. China is not Japan. China is not Syria. China is not Korea. China is not Palestine.
China is a great country, China is a big country. China is a large country. China has a long histroy and great tradition.
China will no longer surrender to USA or other countries.
China will protect its people and land with all means and methods, including nuclear power and attack any people in the countries which invade China.
Don't forget. Taiwan is a part of China. Tibet (Xizang) is a part of China. Even Korea is a part of China. Vietnam is also a part of China.
I will get back all of these parts.
Originally posted by devilwasp
Originally posted by rogersune
American are stupid and arrogant.
They are not.
They don't accept the fact that Taiwan is a part of China.
They do.
I will give some advice to U.S. government and people: don't forget Korean War and Vietnam War.
They havent, have you?
Chinese people will never let West countries to invade China and kill Chinese people as they did in 19th and 20 centuries. In 1900, 8 strongest nations, including USA, Russia, Britain, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Spain invaded China, killed many Chinese people in China's capital--Beijing, and burned China's most beautiful royal palace--Yuan Ming Yuan. Every Chinese people know and remember this fact. We will revenge.
With respect where does justice end and revenge begin?
Are you telling me that china after 100 years of helping each other and fighting each other still hates us for an act our forefathers commited?
China is a great country, China is a big country. China is a large country. China has a long histroy and great tradition.
I agree with all of the above.
FIRM SUPPORT: America has obligations to Taiwan and these will not be affected even if it decides not to buy advanced weapons, Rumsfeld said
BY CHARLES SNYDER
STAFF REPORTER IN WASHINGTON
Thursday, Aug 25, 2005,Page 1
US Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld described Taiwan as a "sovereign nation" Tuesday, saying it was up to Taiwan to decide whether or not to buy the US$15 package of weaponry Washington has offered, and that the decision would not alter the US' legal obligation to aid Taiwan in defending against a Chinese attack.
At the same time, Rumsfeld said he did not think that the current joint Chinese-Russian military exercises in the waters north of Taiwan represent a threat.
Answering questions as a regular Pentagon press briefing, Rumsfeld declined to describe Taiwan as taking unfair advantage of the US' commitment to aid the island by failing to approve the special defense package while relying on America to come to Taiwan's defense in case of a Chinese attack.
"I think if I wanted to communicate something to the government of Taiwan, I would find a better place than here [at the press briefing]," he told reporters.
"I've always believed that countries -- sovereign nations -- have to do what they decide to do," Rumsfeld said in answer to a question about the Taiwan legislature's action on the arms package. "It's up to them to do it. "
We make our position known, and our position is known with the Taiwan Relations Act. And we have an obligation under that act to work with Taiwan on fulfilling security and arms sale provisions of that act.
"If they decide not to [approve the arms package] or if they decide to do so, that's up to them," he said.
The US$15 billion package, whose approval is supported by President Chen Shui-bian (陳水扁) and his DPP government, has been stymied by opposition from the pan-blue camp, primarily by opposition from former Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) chairman Lien Chan (連戰). Many observers think that Lien's successor, Taipei Mayor Ma Ying-jeou (馬英九), will be more flexible in his position toward the arms package.
Rumsfeld's comments contrast with efforts by key Pentagon officials in recent years to pressure the Legislative Yuan to approve the special arms package, which includes diesel submarines, PAC III anti-missile batteries, and P-3C reconnaissance and anti-submarine aircraft.
Last October, for instance, Richard Lawless, the Deputy Assistant Secretary for Defense for East Asia, and one of Taiwan's best friends in Washington, issued a stern warning to Taiwan that the failure to approve the arms package would result in dire consequences for Taiwan.
Taiwan would be considered a "liability, rather than a partner" to its friends if it failed to approve the arms package.
"If the Legislative Yuan fails to pass this budget, it will be much harder to convince foreign partners to support your defense," Lawless said.
His comments were in a keynote address to a joint military conference sponsored by the US-Taiwan Business Council, whose members include the giants of the US defense contractor industry, who would benefit from the sale of the items in the arms package.
Regarding the joint Russian-Chinese military exercises, Rumsfeld played down the significance.
"I guess I don't find it notable," he said. "It is just a fact that countries get together and engage in various types of exercises."
Regarding the exercise's potential implications for Taiwan, Rumsfeld said, "We are obviously observing what's taking place, but I didn't see anything there that was threatening to Taiwan or anybody else."
Originally posted by rogersune
They don't accept the fact that Taiwan is a part of China.
Originally posted by rogersune
If you want to invade or conquer China, you will fail and lose your people's lives and wealth.
Originally posted by rogersune
We will revenge.
Originally posted by rogersune
Remember: China is not Iraq. China is not Iran. China is not Japan. China is not Syria. China is not Korea. China is not Palestine.
Originally posted by rogersune
China has a long histroy
Originally posted by rogersune
and great tradition.
Originally posted by rogersune
China will protect its people and land with all means and methods, including nuclear power
Originally posted by rogersune
and attack any people in the countries which invade China.
Originally posted by rogersune
American are stupid and arrogant...
Don't forget. Taiwan is a part of China. Tibet (Xizang) is a part of China. Even Korea is a part of China. Vietnam is also a part of China.
Originally posted by devilwasp
3) The UK would simply send james bond in to stop the war. END OF WAR.
Originally posted by rogue1
True if anyone can do it Bond could. They should have sent him into Iraq as well, would have saved much hassle.
Originally posted by devilwasp
3) The UK would simply send james bond in to stop the war. END OF WAR.
Originally posted by AtheiX
James Bond doesn't exist.
Originally posted by devilwasp
Was a joke, you know trying to lighten the mood?
Originally posted by rogersune
American are stupid and arrogant.
They don't accept the fact that Taiwan is a part of China.
I will give some advice to U.S. government and people: don't forget Korean War and Vietnam War.
If you want to invade or conquer China, you will fail and lose your people's lives and wealth.
Chinese people will never let West countries to invade China and kill Chinese people as they did in 19th and 20 centuries. In 1900, 8 strongest nations, including USA, Russia, Britain, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Spain invaded China, killed many Chinese people in China's capital--Beijing, and burned China's most beautiful royal palace--Yuan Ming Yuan. Every Chinese people know and remember this fact. We will revenge.
Remember: China is not Iraq. China is not Iran. China is not Japan. China is not Syria. China is not Korea. China is not Palestine.
China is a great country, China is a big country. China is a large country. China has a long histroy and great tradition.
China will no longer surrender to USA or other countries.
China will protect its people and land with all means and methods, including nuclear power and attack any people in the countries which invade China.
Don't forget. Taiwan is a part of China. Tibet (Xizang) is a part of China. Even Korea is a part of China. Vietnam is also a part of China.
I will get back all of these parts.
Originally posted by AtheiX
No, that was not a joke.
Originally posted by devilwasp
Originally posted by AtheiX
No, that was not a joke.
Yes it was!
For crying out loud I know James bond doesnt exist.
Originally posted by grunt2
4-but they can also take taiwan in the "soft" mode, with the increase of the China economy and the profile as a future superpower -we must wait if that happens- and the cultural links -actually the politic/economic system of taiwan looks more like modern china model than the US- in the future both nations could find common interests
[edit on 25-8-2005 by grunt2]