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Can China Invade Taiwan?

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posted on Aug, 19 2005 @ 01:08 AM
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Originally posted by devilwasp
The chinese government TOOK control, never got elected but took it.


they weren't elected like a modern election but were elected by the chinese people for their choice of government. they took it with the help of the chinese people.

The way you said it makes it some like the communist are a outsider force that forced it upon the chinese



What?
They never killed anyone for skin colour in the 1990's, mabye in the 1960's and mabye the 50's but not the 60's.
Thats when the civil rights campeigned and won.


maybe in the 60s but not in the 60s????






Yet again, opinion.
You see china as this "unconcourable beast" mabye this is another attempt to say
government and get more money in the MOD?
Sounds like it to me...


yes and yours are fact??



JAK

posted on Aug, 19 2005 @ 04:35 AM
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[edit on 19/8/05 by JAK]



posted on Aug, 19 2005 @ 05:02 AM
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taiwan is not a different country. it does not have a different culture, its not a different ethnic group, taiwanese is not a different language but a dialect of chinese from the mainland. it has never been a different country.

all taiwanese are decended from the mainland. theres no doubt about that.(except those aboringines)


Taiwan and Penghu islands were promised to china(ROC) after the end of hostilitys with japan at the Cairo Conference. but the ROC lost the civil war to the PRC and then was forced to retreat to taiwan. The PRC then became the representative of all of china.

Chinese(ROC) troops took the surrender of japanese tooks on taiwan and not american.


The ROC has always claimed to be the legitiment government of china. the whole mainland of china. they still even claim mongolia.


up until the 18th-19th centuray the natives of taiwan outnumbered the chinese from the mainland. the natives only number 2% of the taiwanese population today. as you can tell the majority settled in taiwan from the 19th-20th centuray.

[edit on 19-8-2005 by chinawhite]



posted on Aug, 19 2005 @ 06:09 AM
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Going to add a reminder to this thread, Please tone it down a little.

No insults or name calling,

Asala



posted on Aug, 19 2005 @ 06:47 AM
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devilwasp actually called two people idiots.

me and Odium


No your thining idioticly my friend..


he said he is thinng idioticly but you know what his implying



posted on Aug, 19 2005 @ 06:50 AM
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Originally posted by chinawhite
weaking chinas defence from areas that wont see much action

What defines "areas that wont see much action"?
I am quite sure that the comanders would not like that strategy.




so?

Thats quite old..




sinodefence huh?

Yeah, quite good actually, been linked to it by many sites.



defence/attack.

Attacking what?
Air defense fighters are not very good at shooting down flying tanks..



what about rusian olds

You mean the kilo?
That is IMO the best diesel electric sub in exsistance, but 4 subs can only go so far..




kitty hawk is the only forward deployed carrier. it will be some time because others come

Yeah the carrier task force is a major force.




we weren't even talking about taiwan. its about attacking american military bases

So now your suggesting they are going to nuke US airbases???





it does work.

Ok...you reap what you sowed...just remember WW2...and what it cost your country...



posted on Aug, 19 2005 @ 06:55 AM
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Originally posted by chinawhite
they will be protected from a screem of land based SAMS. and Sea based SAMs

You cant shoot down a tomahawk if you cant see it..



not when its a surprise. what do you get out of presenting false information

It doesnt matter if its a suprise or not, I am not presenting false information, everything I have said has been true.




nuclear weapons are different from getting kicked out of military bases.

What now they're going to kick the biggest superpower out of thier country?



in britain you could still grow food. in those islands you cant grow food for 50,000 people. no supplies in 30days will kill them.

So your now planning on starveing them to death?
Yeah thats going to go down sooo well.



posted on Aug, 19 2005 @ 06:56 AM
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Originally posted by chinawhite

did they? provide some proof.


I'm sure that these tanks dont exist...



posted on Aug, 19 2005 @ 06:59 AM
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Originally posted by chinawhite
they weren't elected like a modern election but were elected by the chinese people for their choice of government. they took it with the help of the chinese people.

The way you said it makes it some like the communist are a outsider force that forced it upon the chinese

Yeah they forced it upon the country.
BTW, there are no comunists..



maybe in the 60s but not in the 60s????

Check my post to odium, I said I screwed up.





yes and yours are fact??

Yeah.



posted on Aug, 19 2005 @ 06:59 AM
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Everyone knows that the man in the video didn't get run over by the tanks

there are numerous videos of it

[edit on 19-8-2005 by chinawhite]



posted on Aug, 19 2005 @ 07:02 AM
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Originally posted by devilwasp
Yeah they forced it upon the country.
BTW, there are no comunists..


if wasn't forced. chinese people welcomed them as liberators from the warloads. they promised them land and never to be insulted by landlords. they kept their promise.

can you provide some proof otherwise.??

They are communist



Check my post to odium, I said I screwed up.


ok i checked it



Yeah.


not even close



posted on Aug, 19 2005 @ 07:03 AM
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Originally posted by chinawhite
devilwasp actually called two people idiots.

me and Odium


No your thining idioticly my friend..


he said he is thinng idioticly but you know what his implying

Yes I did call one person an idiot, but that was after YOU insulted both pilots from france and germany.
Also I said he was thinking idioticly because he was, I never once called him nor implied he was one.
If he WAS one he wouldnt come up with the decent arguments he has given in not just this threat.



posted on Aug, 19 2005 @ 07:05 AM
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Originally posted by chinawhite
Everyone knows that the man in the video didn't get run over by the tanks

there are numerous videos of it

Do we know no one was run over?
After all there are tanks there, TANKS, tanks have one purpose.
To kill.



posted on Aug, 19 2005 @ 07:05 AM
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Originally posted by devilwasp
You cant shoot down a tomahawk if you cant see it..


im not to sure if you know this but china has the ability to track cruise missiles. and shoot them down



It doesnt matter if its a suprise or not, I am not presenting false information, everything I have said has been true.


not when there arent any links/sources to back them up.





What now they're going to kick the biggest superpower out of thier country?


want examples.??



So your now planning on starveing them to death?
Yeah thats going to go down sooo well.


its a real military stragery. those small islands near china will surrender.


Do you know where these islands are or are making this up as you go?



posted on Aug, 19 2005 @ 07:08 AM
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Originally posted by chinawhite
if wasn't forced. chinese people welcomed them as liberators from the warloads. they promised them land and never to be insulted by landlords. they kept their promise.

Did everyone agree with it?


can you provide some proof otherwise.??

I am not an expert on it, but in revolutions not every one ( the people) agree with change.


They are communist

How, there is a country, for comunism to exist everyone MUST be equal.





not even close

Really?
I take it china has LESS than the numbers I stated.
Or mabye that bullets DO splinter when hitting a solid object.



posted on Aug, 19 2005 @ 07:08 AM
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Originally posted by devilwasp
After all there are tanks there, TANKS, tanks have one purpose.
To kill.


tanks were designed for protection.

On the internet there was the whole movie of him getting pulled away by another protester. he held the tanks up for over half an hour because they refused to run him over.

he was named one of one hundred most influencual people in the 20th centuray by time magazine



posted on Aug, 19 2005 @ 07:10 AM
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Originally posted by chinawhite
im not to sure if you know this but china has the ability to track cruise missiles. and shoot them down

Really?
Know how hard it is to hit one?



not when there arent any links/sources to back them up.

???
Sino not a link?
Common physiscs not good enough?




want examples.??

In the last 5 years?



its a real military stragery. those small islands near china will surrender.

Its also an inhuman strategy.


Do you know where these islands are or are making this up as you go?

Pescadores, Matsu, and Quemoy ?



posted on Aug, 19 2005 @ 07:13 AM
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Originally posted by devilwasp
Did everyone agree with it?


not the 5% of chinas richest people. whihc controlled over 95% of the wealth. the communist stopped illegal substances, prostitution , warloads, and foriegn occupation


I am not an expert on it, but in revolutions not every one ( the people) agree with change.


yeah the other party , that was forced to go to taiwan



How, there is a country, for comunism to exist everyone MUST be equal.


Difinition of a communist is -

1. A member of a Marxist-Leninist party.
2. A supporter of such a party or movement.

remember we are talking about communist



posted on Aug, 19 2005 @ 07:16 AM
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Originally posted by devilwasp
Really?
Know how hard it is to hit one?


remember that china has brought or produced a lot of these missiles and the systems for tracking LO planes and missiles




???
Sino not a link?
Common physiscs not good enough?


sino is a link but not when its talking about taiwan.

no its not





In the last 5 years?


wait i need time for this. forgot the countries




Its also an inhuman strategy.


and those tactics are still used in modern warfare. those people will not starve to death but starve enough.



Pescadores, Matsu, and Quemoy ?


and you think they can sustain 50,000 men with out resupply?



posted on Aug, 19 2005 @ 07:21 AM
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Originally posted by devilwasp

What defines "areas that wont see much action"?
I am quite sure that the comanders would not like that strategy.


indian border korean border, vietnam border, burma border, middle of china




Thats quite old..


a decade old?






Attacking what?
Air defense fighters are not very good at shooting down flying tanks..


those 1000fighters and attackers



You mean the kilo?
That is IMO the best diesel electric sub in exsistance, but 4 subs can only go so far..


china has 6-8 now. but china is producing her Song class sub and A upgraded song




Yeah the carrier task force is a major force.


not when is one carrier




So now your suggesting they are going to nuke US airbases???


who said anything about nukes?? because i didn't in anyway mention them



Ok...you reap what you sowed...just remember WW2...and what it cost your country...


terrorist in WW2?? your getting me confused??




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