Do they engage in homosexual acts and worship the devil?

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posted on Nov, 29 2010 @ 03:27 PM
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The major things that I hear about "secret societies" are things like devil worshiping and homosexual acts being done in their meeting place. Is this really going on or is this just an nonfactual stereotype? Why is it always the devil and never the antagonist of another religion? These are just some basic questions I have. Thanks.




posted on Nov, 29 2010 @ 03:34 PM
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posted on Nov, 29 2010 @ 03:37 PM
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A lot of societies of the past eras would engage in "homosexuals acts" and would worship their strange deities in some very strange and horrific ways, it's certainly not restricted to the devil. It's just that most of the religions that are the standard today forbid such things.



posted on Nov, 29 2010 @ 03:38 PM
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That is some compelling evidence. Very constructive.

OP what secret society are you looking for information about? A simple search of ATS archives will bring up literally thousands of threads about the subject.

Just put your waders on.... The BS piles up in here pretty quick.

Best of luck



posted on Nov, 29 2010 @ 03:43 PM
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How secret can a society be if they are so often discussed openly
Are there clubs that engage in devil worship and homosexual acts? Probably.
Are there organizations that seek enlightenment, value a belief structure, honor their ancestors, seek a future for their prosperity? One only need ask one to be one.



posted on Nov, 29 2010 @ 03:44 PM
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If you are looking for video evidence for this kind of stuff, or data that would withstand a cross examination in a court of law, you will never get it.

The best you are gonna get is anecdotal reports and some pretty good testimony from people who purport, with a great deal of credibility, what they observed and were subjected to as ritual abuse victims. I am thinking of mainly Cathy Obrien, who publised Tranceformation of America.

If even a fraction of what she claims is true (and I tend to believe much of what she says), then the people who have been in charge of this country and leaders of their community are some of the most sadistic, depraved and horrible creatures to have ever walked the earth.



posted on Nov, 29 2010 @ 03:44 PM
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I want you to think for a moment about the average guy. Think of him joining up with the local order of the XYZ society. Now picture his face when they tell him to grease up for the ball on the hill.


don't you think he would run screaming out of the lodge and tell everyone he knows about it? Why he may even start a site called freemasonrywatch.org or something.

Seriously, no devil worship, no satanic sacrifices, and no orgies. I know that sounds boring, but it's just how it is.



posted on Nov, 29 2010 @ 03:45 PM
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No, I don't think so. These sorts of rumors often surround secret societies and generally any organization which does not abide by the popular religious conventions of the day. For instance atheists used to be accused of Satanism, killing infants, etc. All sorts of Dark Age style rumors based on ignorance and designed to spread fear of any viewpoint outside the "norm". In fact similar rumors were spread about Christianity before it caught on, back when it was considered a cult.

The whole secret society devil worship thing is just silly but part of it stems from the fact that these organizations aren't open to everyone, they're, well, secret, so there's a sort of "Who knows what they might be doing in there" attitude.

Edit to Add: As for homosexual acts WHO CARES? I mean as long as the members involved are consenting I could really care less if they want to engage is any sexual acts.
edit on 29-11-2010 by Titen-Sxull because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 29 2010 @ 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by Cocasinpry
A lot of societies of the past eras would engage in "homosexuals acts" and would worship their strange deities in some very strange and horrific ways, it's certainly not restricted to the devil. It's just that most of the religions that are the standard today forbid such things.


So in other words, these secret societies are more like hidden religions or cults? I can see why they would hide though with all of this religious prosecution.

As for the person that asked me which secret society I'm talking about, at first I was thinking about the (free)masons but now I'm trying to see if there are some universal beliefs between all of these so called "secret" societies. I heard that they have some plan to secretly rule the world. Well, there are so many secret societies, how can they all take over the world?



posted on Nov, 29 2010 @ 03:54 PM
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I disagree.

My belief is that the "really weird stuff" that the OP is referring to occurs only at the highest levels, and among members who have been indoctrinated into the practices at a very young age by older family members across multiple generations. These people are "legacy members" who go to their graves without disclosing the stuff they do.

To use your analogy, if I am a high ranking member of a club that participates in extremely sick practices as a matter of course that might land me in jail, I'm not gonna take any tom, dick or harry as a member and immediately show him all of the weird stuff I do. It's gonna be shared and practiced only by die-hard, long-term members who are "true believers", not the lowest ranking dues payer that has been a member for a short period of time.

Dovetailing into this idea is the notion that MOST members do not get into the really sick stuff. I know personally of guys who have been in these kinds of clubs and organizations who would run screaming if you wanted them to do anything but pay their dues, have the occasional party, drink beer and do the obligatory charity fund-raiser every year.

thoughts?



posted on Nov, 29 2010 @ 03:54 PM
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Originally posted by arpgme

Originally posted by Cocasinpry
A lot of societies of the past eras would engage in "homosexuals acts" and would worship their strange deities in some very strange and horrific ways, it's certainly not restricted to the devil. It's just that most of the religions that are the standard today forbid such things.


So in other words, these secret societies are more like hidden religions or cults? I can see why they would hide though with all of this religious prosecution.


for future reference, it's persecution.


As for the person that asked me which secret society I'm talking about, at first I was thinking about the (free)masons but now I'm trying to see if there are some universal beliefs between all of these so called "secret" societies. I heard that they have some plan to secretly rule the world.Well, there are so many secret societies, how can they all take over the world?
exactly.



posted on Nov, 29 2010 @ 03:55 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Well, since the opening post is fairly generic and not referring to any specific group, you could answer about any way you want. Fact is, there may be such a group out there, but if there is, I'm not aware of it. Which isn't surprising, since it should be secret and all.


As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Nov, 29 2010 @ 04:06 PM
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Ok. I have a challenge for you. First, think about who would classify as a "high level member". OK get that visual in your head. Now go sit outside a masonic lodge. Watch as the members arrive. Take note of the ages involved. Note the kind of vehicles driven. Remember, that the "Higher Up's" would be the rich guys. Now picture them ( the old guys) flopping around in a big sweaty orgie.....sorry, I just puked a bit in my mouth......

Now picture these men going home to their sweet little old wifes and having a cup of coffee with them. the conversation would go like this. "honey, how was your meeting?"

"great, got boned by Steven and Tom."

"that's nice, did the doctor refill your Viagra prescription?"

seriously. You need help.



posted on Nov, 29 2010 @ 04:09 PM
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At what point in my post did I mention anything about the Masons?

I think you are projecting a lot of your own biases and preconceptions onto my post.

You might consider where your biases about the freemasons comes from.





posted on Nov, 29 2010 @ 04:18 PM
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posted on Nov, 29 2010 @ 04:24 PM
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we are just like any other secret society. If it's trendy, everyone's doing it.

What secret society are you referring to with High level members and all?



posted on Nov, 29 2010 @ 04:25 PM
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I wouldn't think anyone wanted to mess with Clinton. You have no idea where that's been.



posted on Nov, 29 2010 @ 04:26 PM
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Absolutely they do - the Jesuits and senior Catholics are famed for it! - Satanism - is the secret doctrine of the Catholic Church or the Babylonian Mystery Religion as it really is - rules are just for the stupid masses to follow, they are the ones who decide what is 'good or evil' - hence thier maxim - the end justifies the means - whilst promoting exactly the opposite to you!



posted on Nov, 29 2010 @ 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by arpgme
Do they engage in homosexual acts and worship the devil?


who doesn't nowadays




posted on Nov, 29 2010 @ 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by network dude
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Ok. I have a challenge for you. First, think about who would classify as a "high level member". OK get that visual in your head. Now go sit outside a masonic lodge..


Get it out of your head that the free masons are the only secret society to ever exist.

I bet you don't know about The Dark Order of the Druidic Faeries, now do you!!?





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