Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by Phantomfire707
Interesting... Out of curiosity where did youfind the Fatima prophecy information regarding Russia? All of the info I have seen says the last prophecy
was fullfilled with the attempted assasination of the Pope in the 80's.
I don't feel like making a long post here, so this is my attempt at a short response:
In 1995 Pope JPII wrote in his book Crossing the Threshold of Hope(on page 221) that the "words" "SPOKEN" by Mary within the Fatima prophecy seemed to
be nearing fulfillment towards the end of the 20th century. In contradiction to what the Pope revealed in his own book, the secret released by the
Vatican in June 2000 had not one single word spoken by Mary. So I know for a fact that by the year 2000 the Vatican had decided they would conspire to
keep those words hidden from public awareness.
Here are some of the comments I've used to discern that the spoken words of the Third Secret pertains to Russia:
Pope John Paul II in 1981:
"my predecessors in the Petrine office diplomatically preferred to postpone publication so as not to encourage the world power of Communism to make
(Mary speaks of Russia and Russia's errors in the known prophecies, thus the Pope most likely was referring to Russia when using the broader term
"world power of communism")
Cardinal Ratzinger remarks in June 2000:
"Here it would be appropriate to mention a phrase from the letter which Sister Lucia wrote to the Holy Father on 12 May 1982: “The THIRD PART of the
‘secret' refers to Our Lady's words: ‘If not, [Russia] will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church.
The good will be martyred; the Holy Father will have much to suffer; various nations will be annihilated'”
Sister Lucia(seer) in her memoirs:
"Later...Our Lady said to me, complaining: "Not wishing to attend to my request! Like the King of France, they will repent then make it happen, but it
will be (done) late. Russia will have already spread it's errors through the world, provoking wars, and persecutions of the Church: The Pope will have
much to suffer."
i)"Russia, according to the text of the 'Third Secret,' was the regulator of the timetable."
ii)"Lucia's single-page written formulation of the "Third Secret" covers three main topics. (1) A Physical chastisement of the nations...(2) A
spiritual chastisement...(3) A central function of Russia in the two ...(which)..In fact, the physical and spiritual chastisements, according to
Lucia's letter, are to be gridded on a fateful timetable in which Russia is the ratchet."
Sister Lucia in a 1946 interview with John Walsh author of book "Our Lady of Fatima"(pg 221 as well):
"she said more than once and with deliberate emphasis: "What Our Lady wants is that the Pope and all the bishops in the world shall consecrate Russia
to Her Immaculate Heart on one special day. If this is done, She will convert Russia and there will be peace. If it is not done, the errors of Russia
will spread through every country in the world.' "
"Does this mean, in your opinion, that every country, without exception, will be overcome by Communism?"
(Despite in the above quote, Mary stating Russia's errors would spread to every nation, pretty much every believer before 1990 including Lucia and the
Pope mistakenly assumed Russia's errors referred to communism. The future tactics of a future Russian Hitler during a future era of Fatima prophecy
fulfillment would be the true moment of Russia's errors.)
edit on 30-11-2010 by Phantomfire707 because: (no reason given)