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Originally posted by eiltihw
reply to post by dmefoc
To me the wikileaks "leak" is being extremely publicized to the point i feel like it was planned. It is being thrown all over the news from local to the global news. now if this was truly something that the govt was afraid of coming to light wouldn't they have stopped the leak from even reaching the news or to wikileaks to being with? because this isn't like the "burn book" that was passed around in the movie mean girls this is TOP SECRET information about our govt and the world leaders. because you can almost guarantee the if an everyday person hacked into the secret files of the federal government they would either be put to work by the govt as a hacker, be put to death mysteriously, or be put in so deep a prison hole to where even his family would forget his name. in my opinion i just don't trust it i'm just going to wait and see how all this works out to being a miraculous positive for the US.
Originally posted by eiltihw
reply to post by Baldur
no i mean planned as in with the government not them...
Originally posted by dmefoc
Did you read my thoughts at all? did the dumb dork that starred you read what I said?
I am not discrediting Wikileaks at all. Im saying that something is up.. The scapegoat for information is an Army PFC. Noone without a rank of AT LEAST Major or ABOVE has access to all the information released, period.
So, please point out where I discredit wikileaks. When you cant, I will accept your apology
Originally posted by aliengenes
did you ever consider that the government might want these world leaders and messages exposed for being asses and not playing into their game or some other agenda?
Originally posted by bobs_uruncle
As far as the info or disinfo question... In just about any situation it is very hard to determine which program is in effect. I do know from experience that a real information release will follow a specific attack methodology against the releasor. First stage will be an attempt at discrediting and/or diversion, second stage will be financial attrition, third stage is generally elimination via accident or what appears to be natural causes, forth stage is elimination with prejudice to make an example (I am at stage 2 and have been for 9 years, that could change soon with the potential release of a movie and I could be allocated stage 3 or 4 status, but at least I have a dead man's switch so it's not all bad I guess).
If the information was real and fairly complete, I would be able to pick out a very specific location and date in 1988 that involved the US State Department, the French, a joint Israeli/French corporation, an Ambassador, two South African government ministers and an offshore company, with all the names, that did the arms deal to get Saddam to invade Kuwait, but that info isn't in Cablegate, yet I was there when it went down. So I question the validity and integrity of the cablegate package, but maybe there is no way all the information could be gotten out?
I also find it surprising that apparently there is no damning information contained, especially concerning Israel. That must have been filtered or was never included from the get go.
Since he is still alive and operated from a nanny state (UK) with more cameras than people, with face recognition software and all manner of junk for spying on the subjects there, he could have been acquired and taken down at any time.
So, either Assange has been fed disinformation tempered with a lot of truths to forward someone else's agenda or the information is just not that valuable or TPTB know that if they take him down it will lend credibility to WL which they may not want or Assange is a superspy and the cleverest bloke on the planet capable of outwitting hords of other superspies and their governments. Take your pick, but something is wrong here ;-)
Originally posted by fonenyc
That is an assumption and it can be wrong. What if wikileaks has set up many other servers and computers yet to be used around the world to ensure their plan against the elite of the world? Think about it, Julian Assange could not afford all of this alone, you know there are big boys behind wikileaks who remain anonymous.
Do not treat Illuminati as if they are Gods, if anything their tactics prove them to be weak. They use fear because their ideal cannot stand with the people on its own merits.
If Wiki was not part of the " Big Plan " it would not be here still.
This is a tool for them to use...
Originally posted by Frogs
Lets look at what we have so far using 2 criteria - if it is a surprise and how big it is. In no particular order.
oh, come on, man! you have seen too many hellywood sh!t: no problem for cia to figure out where is those "superb" hackers & who fetch & carry info to wl
Actually its very possible to be one step ahead of the CIA, alot of whats used is kept underground until the exploits are found and patched, but by than the hackers have moved onto a new exploit.
System logs can be altered; loggers can be turned off. Security protocols aren't applied evenly, and don't get me started on how craptastic Active Directory is on that.