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reply posted on 28-11-2010 @ 01:04 AM by Aim64C
reply to post by backinblack



What, are these damn games that important that common sense takes a holiday?
They could stop the games or simply move them a little away from NK..\
No big deal..But no, the US likes trouble..


The same ones that go on year after year, every year.

The fact is - the U.S. has nothing to fear militarily from any standing army on the face of this planet. We can trash them all. It wouldn't be without losses - but when we can remove 30% of your strategic resources with a single carrier battle group - you can't win a strategic engagement with us - period. That single battle group could decimate China proper without resorting to even tactical yield nuclear weapons. It would be far from dismantling China all together - but China would rapidly find itself in unfamiliar territory with a good portion of its chain of command missing and presumed dead, and a number of their strategic resources (power distribution/generation, fuel/ammo stores, etc) neutralized. Meanwhile, their entire economy is based on labor and import/export operations - they lack the naval power to resist a blockade.

South Korea should be able to handle North Korea on their own - even if it comes down to an infantry war. That said - losses would be higher than desirable if the U.S. has to deal with China as a distraction.

If you don't believe me - look at weapons like the JSOW, the M-270, and other weapon systems that turn a small group of 'ninjas' into cluster-#-you. Then look at precision weapons like the Tomahawk and Harpoon systems that can systematically deny you strategic assets.

We couldn't afford to invade and occupy China, no. But we could easily remove their capability to fight and just let them starve/burn/whatever until they are willing to step back in line. It's called deck-plate education.


reply posted on 28-11-2010 @ 01:12 AM by backinblack
reply to post by Aim64C



That single battle group could decimate China proper without resorting to even tactical yield nuclear weapons.


Are you away with the pixies??
I don't like what NK is doing but it's insane beliefs from some gung ho,we are invincible, americans that gives the rest a bad name..
Get off your high horse..


reply posted on 28-11-2010 @ 01:12 AM by Gliese581
Originally posted by Vitchilo
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post by BKD2674



If China drops the North, the North might feel like they have nothing to lose and annihilate the South. Or at bare minimum they gonna test a nuke to show how ``strong`` they are and that they don't need China's help.

The North testing a nuke right now would sure raise even more the tensions...


China won't drop the North. Consider the long term situation and teams, to realize not only China but also Russia are behind. Who gave the "impoverished North" technology to make nuclear material in two separate ways? Who developed their rocketry? All is domestic? Then we deal with a great power, because even the US programs weren't all US but from the Germans. And if Rus/CH gave them that, they probably have provied them with some more nukes and rockets we don't know about. Why otherwise should the "crazy" Kim warn the mainland USA? Japan is well inside the range, as well as USS Washington. A nuclear blast is enough for any vessel. But then the WW3 will start, yes? Perhaps that is behind the scene: are those powers decided to start WW3 or not? Seems USA is already ready if sends a fleet alone between North Korea and China, much like the situation in Pearl Harbor. I would be surprised if after Kim's next attack, Russia doesn't explode a satellite-based EMP over USA, to prevent the American hawks to launch their first nuclear strike.

There is something more and that is the Black Projects, flying triangles etc. See the last post of David Wilcock. Is this what USA counts on? It is good for flee outside earth. Will we see triangles vs pyramids in the sky?
edit on 28-11-2010 by Gliese581 because: put the correct quote



reply posted on 28-11-2010 @ 01:20 AM by BKD2674
reply to post by backinblack



Some Americans are definitely on a "high horse" , but what he states is essentially true. Without any biased views America would have no problem harassing and disabling any country we would choose necessary without any nukes even being fired. I think many have a sense of weakness or dissarray when it comes to the U.S.'s military abilities considering the Middle East events of the past decade; however, those opponents are essentially religious zealots with guerilla and cowardly battle tactics. If we fight a country who fights a standard war with normal military capabilities there would be no question as to who would "win"


reply posted on 28-11-2010 @ 01:24 AM by fooks
reply to post by Gliese581



well wouldn't russia and china and nk have to take on NATO?

if the us were attacked with an emp, that would be war and everyone would get into it.

if the us were incapacitated, i think everyone would start throwing punches.

japan, taiwan, israel, iran, uk, aus, the eu.

black triangles and stuff better be dusted off!
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reply posted on 28-11-2010 @ 01:30 AM by backinblack
reply to post by BKD2674



I agree the US could take on any single country with not many issues.
What I take offence to is ridiculous comments such as this.
That single battle group could decimate China proper without resorting to even tactical yield nuclear weapons.

That single battle group with one carrier wouldn't last a day against China..The 60+ subs NK could possibly even cause it some trouble..
Lets remember, even Australia and a few other countries have (in war games) taken out US carriers..

That's why I think the US should just move or cancel these games..
Too many on both sides could die if a war starts and I doubt that Battle Group would make it back..

Yes, NK is like a rabid dog and you know what? I'd steer clear of a rabid dog rather that tempt fate..


reply posted on 28-11-2010 @ 01:31 AM by SaturnFX
reply to post by BKD2674



Problem is the value of life.
America, for all of its might and bravado, actually has a very weak stomache for war...we don't like it..and thats actually a good thing in regards to civilization...however, it is also an exploitable thing.
Chinese generally do not have much regard for life..they fight for something greater..they will lay down their life willingly and gladly for the honor of China and its continued undefeated legacy...which means, every chinese fight until they are victorious, or all dead...if there is one person left to launch anything...he will.

Against such insane focus that cares not for life but for legacy...how can you ever truely win?

now, in saying that...I don't believe...choose not to believe anyhow, that China would ever war with the USA..like loaning someone 10,000$, then promptly shooting them before getting paid back...makes little sense..so strictly for a financial view...such a move would seem stupid..and China is not stupid.


reply posted on 28-11-2010 @ 01:39 AM by phatpackage
reply to post by backinblack




That's why I think the US should just move or cancel these games.. Too many on both sides could die if a war starts and I doubt that Battle Group would make it bac


That would be an extremely cowardly thing to do. Why should they? Just because the big bad terrorist North Koreans said so? Not good enough, NK has sunk one of their ships & killed civilians. Words will not fix this. Words have not fixed anything yet!. The SK people have been pushed, bullied & intimidated by the Terrorists for too long. It's time to stand up! Losses will be massive but it is time to stand up! If it was the first act of aggression by the terrorists of NK then sure walk away but not now.


reply posted on 28-11-2010 @ 01:42 AM by phatpackage
reply to post by muse7





Obviously the USA is trying to play the instigator by sending carriers and aircraft trying to bait NK into attacking


Incorrect assessment. North Korea are the aggressors here. They despise SK freedoms, money & their very good standing in the world. One day the terrorists will be removed!
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