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Originally posted by Nomad451
The Chinese press conference happened yesterday.
They called for immediate resumption of 6 party talks and s. Korea rejected it, thats it!
China Pleased With Bosworth Visit to DPRK
Â¶3. (C) Asked his views on the North Korea nuclear situation,
CCID Director Wang stated that China was very pleased that
Ambassador Bosworth was in Pyongyang, noting that the visit
would be "cost effective" because the North Koreans had made
clear there could be no resuming the Six-Party Talks without
first convening a bilateral U.S.-DPRK dialogue. Ambassador
Bosworth's visit effectively "kicked the ball" back to the
North Koreans. When asked what the likely outcome of the
talks would be, Wang said the ideal outcome would be a
meeting with Kim Jong-il, which would send a very positive
signal, but it was impossible to predict North Korean
behavior through "normal" means of reading public indicators.
Wang said that Ambassador Bosworth would likely meet with
First Vice Foreign Minister Kang Sok-ju, who was "a
hardliner" with "strong views" and whose opinions were valued
by the DPRK's top leaders. However, Kang had to follow
orders from above, Wang noted, and would not want to lose
such an opportunity to improve relations with the United
States. The negotiations with Ambassador Bosworth would be a
bargaining process, with each side trying to discern the
other's bottom line.
Â¶4. (C) The North needed a breakthrough in its relations with
the United States, Wang asserted, both because of its
domestic situation and the current international environment,
but it would not be easy for North Korea to make a specific
promise regarding a return to the Six-Party Talks or to
announce denuclearization. Ambassador Bosworth's trip itself
was important because it demonstrated that the United States
was serious about preventing a nuclear Korean peninsula and
was committed to a peaceful resolution of the issue. Wang
said China was aware that the United States worried that it
would be deceived by the North but in China's view there was
no need to worry because the current process of promoting
dialogue and negotiations was quite transparent and the
international community would know what the outcome would be.
“The following is the actual text of a speech delivered in December, 2005 by Comrade Chi Haotian –the Vice-Chairman of Chinas Military Commission to top officers and generals. Keep in mind that China has for many years advocated deceitful and covert warfare against its enemies. This is their Modus Operandi. There should be little question that a “Bird Flu” Pandemic would deeply excite them.
(Don’t forget how they have poisoned thousands of American pets and knowingly placed lead paints on toddlers' toys.)”
““Comrades, Im very excited today, because the large-scale online survey sina.com that was done for us showed that our next generation is quite promising and our Partys cause will be carried on. In answering the question, “Will you shoot at women, children and prisoners of war,” more than 80 per cent of the respondents answered in the affirmative, exceeding by far our expectations.”
“The central issue of this survey appears to be whether one should shoot at women, children and prisoners of war, but its real significance goes far beyond that. Ostensibly, our intention is mainly to figure out what the Chinese peoples attitude towards war is: If these future soldiers do not hesitate to kill even noncombatants, theyll naturally be doubly ready and ruthless in killing combatants.
Therefore, the responses to the survey questions may reflect the general attitude people have towards war……..We wanted to know: If Chinas global development will necessitate massive deaths in enemy countries, will our people endorse that scenario? Will they be for or against it?”...
Originally posted by SaturnFX
Originally posted by Gliese581
a question should be asked by the American people: "are we ready for a nuclear war that will see our country devastated, because 4 people or more died?"
Tough decision...if we cannot stand up to a rogue state, then gloves are off...suddenly every tiny state will quest for nukes and start bombing any nation that actually values life.
the answer...I don't know...perhaps this is one of those principle moments of civilization that you have to choose...will you live in a world where the crazy rule, or make a stand and say order, even if it means death for all.
Should we survive this general timeframe of our existance, then we may be mature to spread out amongst the stars, to become a species immortal in the pages of the universe...however, if we do not survive this time, then clearly, our species is not prepared for such survival and maybe needs to simply end before we bring our destruction outside of this one planet.
Its almost spiritual in a way...on the cusp of space exploration, we must make decisions that will either kill us out completely, or shrug off the concept of such destruction...nearly planned as some sort of epic test. I reckon its coincidence, yet I can't help but feel this is not just a simple accident such a test comes at such a time in our collective civilization.
How will we move...what is wisest.