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Hillary Clinton Embraces Communism

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posted on Jul, 1 2004 @ 07:01 PM
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Hillary Clinton said it. : "We're going to take things away from you to support the common good". Speech San Francisco 6/27/04.

Now you're taking more than 50% of my income ? Taking my home and property to share with those who didn't earn it? Be prepared to give your life for your belief as I am for mine Mrs. Clinton. Maybe a another good civil war between bed wetting libs and American's who love their country would be healthy and set a healthier course for America.

A country foolish enough to elect Bill Clinton is also naieve enough to elect his wife. Take a good look at this statement. Even better, assuming she is an intelligent woman, why is she saying this ? Why would she hold out her ID card as a communist ? Does she say that to identify with her audience in a liberal socialist state? Slip of the tongue? No. She means it.

Does it bother anyone that she has just announced she would increase taxes and very possibly confiscate personal real property to be sold "for the common good"? Not my property sweetie.

This back biting hypocrite living in Chapaqua, New York who has made millions with back door book deals in this country gave her wealth. She denies that right to all others? Will she be first to withdraw her money and start passing it on the streets? Yeah, when pigs fly.

These enemies of America are either so stupid that they underestimate the mindset of people who want freedom more than failed Marxist ideology or they simply enjoy a spoken emulation of anti- american thoughts.

One can only hope that 40 years of dumbing down this country in public schools and television has not paid off enough to enbolden our communist enemies within.




posted on Jul, 1 2004 @ 07:12 PM
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Raising taxes = communism.

Brilliant argument.



posted on Jul, 1 2004 @ 07:14 PM
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And as we all know,

Communism = Murder

hometown.aol.com...

Therefore, ...

[edit on 1-7-2004 by BOHICA]


df1

posted on Jul, 1 2004 @ 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by dynamoalf
Hillary Clinton said it. : "We're going to take things away from you to support the common good". Speech San Francisco 6/27/04.


By no means am I a fan of Hillary, however I am always suspicious when someone quotes only a single a sentence. Without any context for the sentence I feel that I am being deceived in some manner.
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posted on Jul, 1 2004 @ 07:36 PM
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Raising taxes = communism.
Brilliant argument.


Thats not the argument.
THis is the argument :

"We're going to take things away from you to support the common good".

A "Marxian slip"?



posted on Jul, 1 2004 @ 07:52 PM
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So, should we not be trying to lower our current deficit?

I mean, we can cut taxes all we like, but that doesn't mean the deficit will get any smaller you know. She clearly used this sentence with another one, that said raising taxes. I mean what else do you expect from democrats.

Yea, it's kind of like the Patriot Act. We're gonna take away your freedoms to support the common good. So maybe we should start calling Ashcroft and Bush communists as well.


df1

posted on Jul, 1 2004 @ 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by spacedoubt


Raising taxes = communism.
Brilliant argument.


Thats not the argument.
THis is the argument :

"We're going to take things away from you to support the common good".

A "Marxian slip"?



You have provided no better context for the sentence than the other guy. Neither of you have provided a link. I don't even know to which Marx you refer, but judging from the comedic lack of logic in both posts I must assume it is Groucho.
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posted on Jul, 1 2004 @ 07:55 PM
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Maybe a another good civil war between bed wetting libs and American's who love their country would be healthy and set a healthier course for America.



I think the people of the US of A against the Republican/Democratic who are controled by the Military Industrial Complex will be a more likely scenario for a next civil war.



posted on Jul, 1 2004 @ 08:00 PM
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"We're going to take things away from you to support the common good".

A "Marxian slip"?


As I understand it, Communism is "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs." This is a direct redistribution of resources. So how does that differ from Hillary's statement? Wait for it . . .

Now let's assume you are a capitalist. Simply put, capitalism says society is made up of individuals, and these individuals must be free to pursue their own interests, and individuals pursuing their own interests will guarantee the interests of society as a whole.

However, this unregulated free market system has six identified failures.

In our regulated market system, the governments role is to intervene when a market failure occurs. One type of market failure is failure to provide for the public good. This includes defense, sidewalks, streetlights, etc. A public good can be used by one individual without precluding another individual from using it later, and there is no additional cost for an additional individual to use the good.

Now, does Hillary mean common good as in defense spending, highway projects, or does she mean taking X% (you pick a percentage) of my paycheck and handing it to somebody else?

One is regulated markets, the other is communism.



posted on Jul, 1 2004 @ 08:02 PM
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Yes, we should try to lower our deficit.

I think the argument would be, "where do we start?"

Slice up the military again?
Better control over Social programs?
It's a toughie.

And with the US in a literal "civil war-of-words"
Things will get done, then undone, and so-on.



posted on Jul, 1 2004 @ 08:18 PM
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BOHICA,

I see your point, but it's not just this recent quote of Hillary Clintons.
It seems to be here whole life's work, to socialize the country.
Here is some history. Yes it's from a point of view closer to mine.
But it does show her in the same light as this thread.

First lady of the left

Df1, your link my friend


[edit on 1-7-2004 by spacedoubt]



posted on Jul, 1 2004 @ 08:27 PM
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" Headlining an appearance with other Democratic women senators on behalf of Sen. Barbara Boxer, who is up for re-election this year, Hillary Clinton told several hundred supporters some of whom had ponied up as much as $10,000 to attend to expect to lose some of the tax cuts passed by President Bush if Democrats win the White House and control of Congress.

"Many of you are well enough off that ... the tax cuts may have helped you," Sen. Clinton said. "We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." "

Excerpted from.
cbs2.com...

This is not the only time that either of the Clinton's, democrats in general, seem to be trying to sell us communism.

Anyone remembers Clinton's speech on what he calls "radical Constinution" and "radical Bill of Rights"? Or that he wanted all guns banned and that only police and military should have them? Stop being lazy, do a search on google if you don't believe it.



posted on Jul, 1 2004 @ 08:38 PM
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Originally posted by Muaddib
" Headlining an appearance with other Democratic women senators on behalf of Sen. Barbara Boxer, who is up for re-election this year, Hillary Clinton told several hundred supporters some of whom had ponied up as much as $10,000 to attend to expect to lose some of the tax cuts passed by President Bush if Democrats win the White House and control of Congress.

"Many of you are well enough off that ... the tax cuts may have helped you," Sen. Clinton said. "We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." "

Excerpted from.
cbs2.com...

This is not the only time that either of the Clinton's, democrats in general, seem to be trying to sell us communism.

Anyone remembers Clinton's speech on what he calls "radical Constinution" and "radical Bill of Rights"? Or that he wanted all guns banned and that only police and military should have them? Stop being lazy, do a search on google if you don't believe it.



Now we got it more in context!!

Hilary Clinton tells RICH PEOPLE that are able to pay 10000$ to go watch her talk, that the democrats will take away some of the tax cuts Bush put in place FOR THOSE RICH PEOPLE THAT CAN AFFORD TO PAY 10000$ TO WATCH SOMEONE TALK(the audience she was talking to).

If I remember correctly, alot of the tax cuts Bush pushed trough were focused on high incomes instead of low incomes and Hilary just sais that she'll moderate that.

I don't see anything communisme in there, sorry, but you guys are just ripping this way out of context and crying wolf (again).



posted on Jul, 1 2004 @ 08:46 PM
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I say, repeal the tax cuts and pay for the invasion of Iraq.



posted on Jul, 1 2004 @ 09:08 PM
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LOL,

Ping-pong.
These types of threads never seem to go anywhere.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the trip.
But in the end We're a bunch of swine, rooting around in each others pearls,
tossing them back at each other.

oink..


df1

posted on Jul, 1 2004 @ 09:10 PM
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Nevermind, this is not worth the time to continue. Believe what you folks wish, I am abandoning discussion on this thread.

[edit on 1-7-2004 by df1]



posted on Jul, 1 2004 @ 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by df1

Thank you for a more complete quote.

However you still make me feel like reagan.

"There you go again", trying feebly to make a point and expecting others to do the searching to validate your point. Why should everybody that reads your posts do seperate research when you can do it once. You are the one being lazy.

Perhaps you come from a wealthy family making it to your advantage, perhaps you have been brainwashed by some false religious ideas or maybe you just lack the intellect perceive reality. I have not seen enough substance in your posts to even wager a guess. Go look up whatever it is you need to lookup to support your illusion.
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You think I should take your remark on "any lack of intelligence" serious when you can't even complete a sentence properly?


My previous response was simple, let me spell it out for you again so that you can understand it. If people present information and you do not believe it, you can search for the same information and find out by whatever links you might trust whether is true or not.



posted on Jul, 1 2004 @ 09:37 PM
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you just bring this topic up now? im suprised you didnt sooner, shes married to one of the bigest commies ever. this is a no duh



posted on Jul, 1 2004 @ 09:41 PM
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Originally posted by KrazyIvan
you just bring this topic up now? im suprised you didnt sooner, shes married to one of the bigest commies ever. this is a no duh


I agree completly with KrazyIvan.

The Clinton's, and democrats in general, seem to be leaning to communism more often these days.



posted on Jul, 1 2004 @ 09:42 PM
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im pretty sure that if she gets her way we'll be seeing these pop up al over the country



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