What date would actually be today without those calendar mistakes?

I'm very curious to know what date should be the - actual - date of our calendar, if we take off all mistakes from our calendar...

Once I read that the year would be 2016 and the date has to be shifted 13 days, like November 28 should be December 11.
I would like a confirmation from someone who actually knows it.

reply to post by Zagari


What calendar mistakes are you referring to? Can you post a link to the information you appear to be sourcing? Are you referring to the Gregorian Calendar as a mistake? Explain further!

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Originally posted by Zagari

I would like a confirmation from someone who actually knows it.

Nobody knows it. That was the plan of those pulling the strings of Pope Gregory.

As a people we have no clue what time it actually is.

That is why we are lost.

Pretty sad right?

11 days were lost when Europe moved from the Gregorian calendar to the Julian which is the one we use now in the West.

Moslems and Hindus, and I am sure a few other cultures, have their own calendars and their own dating systems.
If you look through the stories in different histories of different cultures you will find that similar stories crop up in the different histories with different dates. The way to work out what the real year is, is to figure out a common timeline with all the different cultures where all the stories coincide with each other,

reply to post by Zagari


There is no such thing as the "actual date" since the concept is arbitrarily based upon some event in history. Our current (western) calendar is based upon the (approximate) birth of a guy who (allegedly) lived & died a long time ago. We could easily be numbering our days from when the last Roman emperor sneezed or something like that. So, errors or no errors, there is no absolute date.

Except that it's Saturday night right now : )

reply to post by nolabel


This may confirm what I did say, because we did lose 11 days, but time passed and we now have lost 13 days and we will lose one day more next 100 years...
Anyway, I don't remember where I read that...

6,589,348,305,001 and 340 days

is this the answer you are looking for?

Which mistakes and starting from when? Although I do trust Christ is the firstborn (first free) of the spiritually free, his physical birth should have no bearing on a calendar. So then, do you start "0" at the first written document? How do you prove when that was? What if you find an older document?

Dates are just numbers and it is idolaters who give them false power. Spans and cycles have more "power" than numbers alone (if the differentiation is clear enough for anyone to understand), but that power is more connected to correlation than to the specific numbers themselves.

My suggestion would be for men to use a very distant future event as a 0 and count down to it. Even if it has no particular significance, it would be a better way of setting a "universal" constant for dates. It could even be formatted for ease of reference using some kind of shorthand.

But, allowing numbers to frighten the sheep is a tool used by false shepherds and I don't see them conducting themselves in such a way that would bring life/strength to the weak, so I doubt we'll do anything so stable.
Any thoughts on this OP or others?

reply to post by InfaRedMan


Yes, the Gregorian...Difference between Julian and Gregorian calendar...
By 1582, the cumulative effect of 11 minutes error has shifted the dates of the seasons by 13 days from Caesar's time. Pope Gregory XIII's reform reclaimed only 11 of the lost 13 days so that the date of the vernal equinox was restored to March 21, the date it had at the time of the Council of Nicaea, 325 A.D. With this reform we have fewer leap years too. In general, as before, every fourth year is leap except for those that are divisible by 100 but not by 400. So, for example, 1996 and 2000 are leap whereas 1900 and 2100 are not.

Originally posted by Myendica
6,589,348,305,001 and 340 days

is this the answer you are looking for?

You forgot to say that it is Wednesday! lol

reply to post by zroth


Don't know about you but it's currently 28/11/2010, 12:22 pm where i live. I'm pretty sure everyone on my block no, everyone in my state doesn't even know nor care about calender mistakes.

It seems to me like the only use a calender really has in our society is for record keeping, marking special occasions and for scheduling. The only sad thing about this is that as people we depend on the calender instead of the calender depending on us.

Does anybody really know what time it is?
Does anybody really care? (about tiiiiime)

If so I cant imagine why....
We've all got time enough to cry!

The following were changed:and are no longer representative of their names:

September = 7
October = 8
November = 9
December = 10

Also:
360 was changed to 365

30 day month was changed

"Happy calculating"

Originally posted by Siren


The following were changed:and are no longer representative of their names:

September = 7
October = 8
November = 9
December = 10

Also:
360 was changed to 365

30 day month was changed

"Happy calculating"

I am not going to calculate here but if I look at this logically (oh no!)
It appears that if we are to believe that our calendar as it is today at 365 and about 1/4 days being in a year, and the old calendar only had 360 days, we were actually behind where we should have been by 5 days every year. 2 months every 5 years, 10 months every 50....how long did this go on for?

And if there were only 10 months at 30 days apiece, that makes 300 days, where were the other 60?

Stardate 201011.28

I found out that actually November 28 2010 would be November 15...So, not December 11...

Sunday (Sun)
Monday (Moon)
Tuesday (Mars)
Wednesday (Mercury)
Thursday (Jupiter)
Friday (Venus)
Saturday (Saturn)

So, Neptune, Uranus, wee Pluto and of course the asteroid belt and all the dwarf planets and there moons are all left out. Maybe they were taken out?

All I know for sure is, we have been lied to from the very beginning and Ceaser did not help at all raping the calender. Our Moon also was a calender itself alone.

Its all lies, your born, your lied to, then you die and god knows what else after that. Maybe when you die there is a TV presenter with a microphone and a glittery suit that grabs your hand and puts you on your feet and asks you how was it like, then the audience laughs and your left bewildered. Yeah....it all makes sense now

Hell, maybe even God rested on a Saturday night since Sunday was his day and apparently busy on that day, then again is Monday the start of the week or Sunday, why would god rest on his birthday or is it his work day?

Well, you know, I use to believe in Santa and all that when I was a kid. Now I am accustomed to eating BS. Sad isn't it. Well, not really, its shoved down my neck :-/

EDIT: It's probably 800,012 AAI.

AAI meaning After Artificial Insemination.

Meaning we are all labs experiments from some alien social and technological evolutionary experiment.
Yes, we are here to invent entertainment for really whacked out aliens high on meth, then again those guys give their masters a bone. I wouldn't like to see the alien master's face when they told him we invented Ogrish and enjoy it.

(Disclaimer: I do not enjoy Ogrish)

this would all depend on novelty events and who you accept dominion of/from.

if you used a date based on your ancestors that your descendants would follow you would have to start at some novelty event in your own life.if you are following "time" as a descendant of an ancestor an event which corroborates a universary would be a marker.

if you use an even older social construct like "math" or "astronomy" there are certain markers that are corroborated by physical features that tells the time by means of a story associated with events.

in other words whose time are you keeping.

for example if i have a child and me becoming ordained is an event i will recognize as unity; each displacement from that unity is the extension of time. if my child becomes ordained for the sake of example then it will be 2 expressions of unity.if another person were to observe and attempt to exist within this "time" their perception of time by my observation will be moving into my "past" as my descendants continue becoming ordained increasing in unities, moving into an observers "future"; even if i by their perception is growing older.

In Norwegian:
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English - Norwegian [Old Norse] - meaning

Sunday - Søndag [sunnudagr] - Sun's day
Monday - Mandag [mánadagr] - Moon's day
Tuesday - Tirsdag [Tysdagr] - Tyr or Ty's day
Wednesday - Onsdag [óðinsdagr] - Odin's day
Thursday - Torsdag [þórsdagr] - Thor's day
Friday - Fredag [frjádagr] - Frey's day
Saturday - Lørdag [laugardagr] - washing/bath day

Hey, I'm not sure of what calendar mistakes you are exactly referring to, but your thread reminds me of a question I was asking myself the other day. Would Dec. 21, 2012, or any other somewhat important date in the near future, fall on a different day that actually isn't Dec. 21, 2012. I ask this because I was thinking about how long ago 2012 predictions were made (ancient maya, etc.), and thought about how today's calendar has changed. I don't know much about calendars, but the only factor I could think of was daylight savings time, and the extra day added every 4 years, I think? Im not sure when daylight savings time actually began but, say if it was in 1972, then 2012 would be 40 years away, and Dec 21, would be like 10 days later?

But then again, I personally don't think that something being predicted thousands of years in the past as big as 2012, would be off by a few days. If someone had the knowledge or power to make such a prediction, I don't think they would be slightly off.

Anyways, if anyone has some ideas I'd like to hear em'.

-Otamad