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Originally posted by game over man
This is a great thread S&F! It should be a news article and not a thread IMO. However I have a hard time thinking only one race, the Greys are the only ET's capable of visiting Earth? I would think there would be more species.
Originally posted by zorgon
Nassim Harameinn
Google Video Link
Bill Ryan from Project Camelot
Dan Burisch
Dan's PDF file on S-4 at Area 51
http://(nolink)/pdf/PROJECT_AQUARIUS_DOCUMENT.pdf
And the most famous of them all
Colleen Thomas
Colleen Thomas on Alien and Spiritual War
oppsy you have to rent that one my bad...
Here is one about the Pleiadians shooting down that Missile launched secretly off California last week. Enjoy
edit on 27-11-2010 by zorgon because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by 1AnunnakiBastard
The Greys are not aliens!! More and more UFO researchers are coming to conclude that they are some sort of bio-androids working for some other ancient alien species, or maybe for the earthling Reptilians.
A chapter of the Sumerian Enuma Elish, named "The descent of Inanna into the underworld", there's a mention to some type of robotic asexual humanoids, created by ENKI to help Inanna in some task, that fits on Grey's characteristics.
You can read details in Zecharia Sitchin's "Divine Encounters". It's interesting how the simple mention of his name, is like a curse in threads often assaulted by disinfo shills...
“Nibiru settled into a clockwise orbit (equal to 3,600 orbits of Earth around the Sun). Nibiru stabilized into a clockwise orbit, equal to 3,600 orbits of Earth around the Sun until 10, 900 B.C.E., when Nibiru arrived earlier, due to increasing drift from Solaris of Uranus. Uranus' gravity sped Nibiru's orbit. As a result of this close encounter between Nibiru and Uranus, one of Nibiru's moons, Miranda, was captured by and became a moon of Uranus as Nibiru and Uranus pulled at each other. From 10,000B.C.E. on, Nibiru's revolution sped to 3.450 Earth years; which makes Nibiru's next return 2900A.D. rather than 2012 as predicated on the earlier 3600- year orbit”
Sitchin, Z., 2007, The End of Days, pages 315 - 317
Originally posted by 1AnunnakiBastard
This is not a thread about "contactees", "channelers" or any researcher connected to these people. It's about people that were inside the government or military.
Originally posted by SaturnFX
Blossom Goodchild hands down.
She singlehandedly turned a multitude of religious nutcase new age twits from the UFO community and pushed them out of the field, allowing it once again to be a semi-serious investigation into the phenomona.
Now don't get me wrong...there are still plenty of fruits and nuts in the movement, but her contribution allowed for soo many of them to become upset that this wasn't a religion that they went off and found some new nonsense to put all their hopes and dreams into.
So, heres to you Blossom...thank you for bringing to light the absolute nonsense thinking the window licking mad have been bringing to the study of UFOs and Extraterrestrials..
Originally posted by Human_Alien
The government. Because the more they don't address the matter, the more we realize they're covering it up. Silence speaks volumes at times.
They never did explain the 1952 UFO fleet over the White House did they? I didn't think so......
The July 29 Air Force press conference and Air Force’s explanation
In response to the INS "shoot-down" stories, to calm rising public anxiety [5] and answer the news media's questions about the sightings — and, hopefully, to slow down the numbers of UFO reports being sent to Blue Book, which were clogging normal intelligence channels — Air Force Major Generals John Samford, USAF Director of Intelligence, and Roger Ramey, USAF Director of Operations, held a well-attended press conference at the Pentagon on July 29, 1952. It was the largest Pentagon press conference since World War II (Peebles, 80). Press stories called Samford and Ramey the Air Force's two top UFO experts.[6]
Samford was heavily influenced by Capt. James, who had discussed the sightings with him earlier in the day and who also spoke at the conference. Samford declared that the visual sightings over Washington could be explained as misidentified aerial phenomena (such as stars or meteors). Samford also stated that the unknown radar targets could be explained by temperature inversion, which was present in the air over Washington on both nights the radar returns were reported.
In addition, Samford also argued that the radar contacts were not caused by solid material targets, and therefore posed no threat to national security. In response to a question as to whether the Air Force had recorded similar UFO radar contacts prior to the Washington incident, Samford admitted that there had been "hundreds" of such contacts where Air Force fighter interceptions had taken place, but stated they were all "fruitless".
The conference proved to be successful in "getting the press off our backs", Ruppelt later wrote (Ruppelt, 169).
Criticisms of the Air Force explanation
Almost from the moment of General Samford's press conference, eyewitnesses, UFO researchers, and Air Force personnel came forward to criticize the temperature inversion/mirage explanation. Captain Ruppelt noted that Major Fournet and Lt. Holcomb, who disagreed with the Air Force's explanation, were not in attendance at Samford's press conference. Ruppelt himself discovered that "hardly a night passed in June, July, and August in 1952 that there wasn't a [temperature] inversion in Washington, yet the slow-moving, solid radar targets appeared on only a few nights" (Ruppelt, 170).
According to a story printed by INS, the United States Weather Bureau also disagreed with the temperature inversion hypothesis, one official stating that "such an inversion ordinarily would appear on a radar screen as a steady line, rather than as single objects as were sighted on the airport radarscope."[7]
Also, according to Ruppelt, when he was able to interview the radar and control tower personnel at Washington National Airport, not a single person agreed with the Air Force explanation. Michael Wertheimer, a researcher for the government-funded Condon Report, investigated the case in 1966. He found that the radar witnesses still disputed the Air Force explanation, but that did not stop the report from agreeing with the temperature inversion/mirage explanation (Clark, 660). Ruppelt related that on July 27 the control tower at Washington National had called the control tower at Andrews AFB and notified them that their radar had an unknown object just south of the Andrews control tower, directly over the Andrews AFB radio range station. According to Ruppelt, when the Andrews control tower personnel looked they all saw "a huge fiery-orange sphere" hovering over the range station (Ruppelt, 160). When Ruppelt interviewed the tower personnel several days later, they insisted that they had been mistaken and had merely seen a bright star. However, when Ruppelt checked an astronomical chart he found that there were no bright stars over the station that night, and that he had "heard from a good source that the tower men had been 'persuaded' a bit" by superior officers to state that their sighting was merely a star (Ruppelt, 169).
There were also witnesses who claimed to see structured craft and not merely "glows" or bright lights. On July 19 an Army artillery officer, Joseph Gigandet, was sitting on the front porch of his home in Alexandria, Virginia, across the Potomac River from Washington. At 9:30 p.m. he claimed to see "a red cigar-shaped object" which sailed slowly over his house. Gigandet estimated the object's size as comparable to a DC-7 airplane and at about 10,000 feet altitude; he also claimed that the object had a "series of lights very closely set together" on its sides. The object eventually flew back over his house a second time, which led Gigandet to assume that it was circling the area (Clark, 657). When the object flew away a second time, it turned a deeper red color and moved over the city of Washington itself; this occurred less than two hours before Edward Nugent first spotted the unknown objects on his radar at Washington National. Gigandet claimed that his neighbor, an FBI agent, also saw the object (Clark, 657). Dr. James E. McDonald, a physicist at the University of Arizona and a prominent ufologist in the 1960s, did his own analysis of the Washington sightings. After interviewing four pilot eyewitnesses and five radar personnel, McDonald argued that the Air Force explanation was "physically impossible" (Clark, 661). Harry Barnes told McDonald that the radar targets "were not shapeless blobs such as one gets from ground returns under anomalous propagation", and that he was certain the unknown radar blips were solid targets; Howard Cocklin agreed with Barnes (Clark, 661).
Aftermath: The Robertson Panel
The extremely high numbers of UFO reports in 1952 disturbed both the Air Force and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). Both groups felt that an enemy nation could deliberately flood the U.S. with false UFO reports, causing mass panic and allowing them to launch a sneak attack. On September 24, 1952, the CIA's Office of Scientific Intelligence (OSI) issued a memorandum to Walter B. Smith, the CIA's director. The memo stated that "the flying saucer situation . . . have national security implications . . . [in] the public concern with the phenomena . . . lies the potential for the touching-off of mass hysteria and panic" (Clark, 514). The result of this memorandum was the creation in January 1953 of the Robertson Panel. Physicist Howard Percy Robertson chaired the panel, which consisted of prominent scientists and which spent four days examining the "best" UFO cases collected by Project Blue Book. The panel dismissed nearly all of the UFO cases it examined as not representing anything unusual or threatening to national security. In the panel's controversial estimate, the Air Force and Project Blue Book needed to spend less time analyzing and studying UFO reports and more time publicly debunking them. The panel recommended that the Air Force and Project Blue Book should take steps to "strip the Unidentified Flying Objects of the special status they have been given and the aura of mystery they have unfortunately acquired" (Peebles, 102). Following the Panel's report, Project Blue Book would rarely publicize any UFO case that it had not labeled as "solved"; unsolved cases were rarely mentioned by the Air Force.
Originally posted by game over man
The Ancient Alien Series "The Return" episode has some good info on this case, and there is supposedly a documentary coming out about the incident. I had looked up on wiki info regarding the case because it was difficult to find a conclusion.
Originally posted by FireMoon
reply to post by Unknown Soldier
So let me check this then. A whistle-blower, is someone from within an organisation who chooses to reveal secret facts and agendas to the public at large? So the people you are talking about who were they working for, or are you party to some deeper knowledge about these folk? See, cos from where I'm standing the people you quote are lone nutters, which logically, automatically disqualifies them from being whistle-blowers.
Klass was quite obviously a stooge for some arm of the government, he became a whistle-blower by accident, by dint of him being such an utterly objectionable person, he lost the confidence of just about every expert he worked with and had to resort to outright lies and pure bs to keep his act going.
Originally posted by 1AnunnakiBastard
This is not a thread about "contactees", "channelers" or any researcher connected to these people. It's about people that were inside the government or military.