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Which whistleblower you consider the most important of UFO disclosure??

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posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 04:38 PM
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Me and millions of others who have come to tell our stories and share our piece of the puzzle. If the others mentioned here did not have people like myself and the others to get them interested in the first place there would not have been a popular opinion on the subject and most of the big shots listed would have gone in another direction.


The individual is the strongest part of disclosure and the most underestimated. We are the ones who have had contact, from children to adults for generations we have been the keepers of the real secrets, the real truth.

We are not top military or scientists, we are not authors and group leaders, we are not public speakers nor do we share the respectability of the politicians and world leaders who know less than us yet hold the longest secrets discovered by those who walked before them rather than personal experience.

Although it has been perfectly acceptable for adults to come forward and enlighten the interested with contracts for movies and books to tell of their lifelong contact with Et's and sightings of space craft far beyond anything man is capable of, it is apparent humanity has steered this non disclosure by thwarting the tales and dreams of the children who are the heart of disclosure.

Until we accept as a possibility rather than a fanciful notion or cover up what has been and still continues to happen to the children for generations in connection to the Et phenomena, we are not yet ready for disclosure.

When a child talks about a mysterious friend it is dismissed as fantasy, a childhood imagination. When a child draws pictures of these beings they are treated for fear based psychosis and grilled for things instead which may have happened to them by some molesting or cruel individual.

It is the individual.




posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 04:47 PM
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This is a great thread S&F! It should be a news article and not a thread IMO. However I have a hard time thinking only one race, the Greys are the only ET's capable of visiting Earth? I would think there would be more species.



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 05:00 PM
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You forgot all the famous ones


Richard Hoagland



Dr Steven Greer



Jamie Maussen



Billy Meier




posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 05:04 PM
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Nassim Harameinn


Google Video Link


Bill Ryan from Project Camelot



Dan Burisch



Dan's PDF file on S-4 at Area 51
http://(nolink)/pdf/PROJECT_AQUARIUS_DOCUMENT.pdf

And the most famous of them all

Colleen Thomas

Colleen Thomas on Alien and Spiritual War



oppsy you have to rent that one my bad...

Here is one about the Pleiadians shooting down that Missile launched secretly off California last week. Enjoy


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posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 05:30 PM
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I like Alex Collier, and Dr. Reed, Phil Schnider is my number one though but you have already named him
I think they all contribute and are the leaders in this movement, they will be known as the fore fathers...



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by game over man
This is a great thread S&F! It should be a news article and not a thread IMO. However I have a hard time thinking only one race, the Greys are the only ET's capable of visiting Earth? I would think there would be more species.


The Greys are not aliens!! More and more UFO researchers are coming to conclude that they are some sort of bio-androids working for some other ancient alien species, or maybe for the earthling Reptilians. A chapter of the Sumerian Enuma Elish, named "The descent of Inanna into the underworld", there's a mention to some type of robotic asexual humanoids, created by ENKI to help Inanna in some task, that fits on Grey's characteristics. You can read details in Zecharia Sitchin's "Divine Encounters". It's interesting how the simple mention of his name, is like a curse in threads often assaulted by disinfo shills...



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon
Nassim Harameinn


Google Video Link


Bill Ryan from Project Camelot



Dan Burisch



Dan's PDF file on S-4 at Area 51
http://(nolink)/pdf/PROJECT_AQUARIUS_DOCUMENT.pdf

And the most famous of them all

Colleen Thomas

Colleen Thomas on Alien and Spiritual War



oppsy you have to rent that one my bad...

Here is one about the Pleiadians shooting down that Missile launched secretly off California last week. Enjoy


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This is not a thread about "contactees", "channelers" or any researcher connected to these people. It's about people that were inside the government or military.



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 05:49 PM
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Originally posted by 1AnunnakiBastard
The Greys are not aliens!! More and more UFO researchers are coming to conclude that they are some sort of bio-androids working for some other ancient alien species, or maybe for the earthling Reptilians.


How many of these UFO researchers have examines a gray to be able to make these conclusions?




A chapter of the Sumerian Enuma Elish, named "The descent of Inanna into the underworld", there's a mention to some type of robotic asexual humanoids, created by ENKI to help Inanna in some task, that fits on Grey's characteristics.


They look more like owls to me. Inanna is not a bad looker though, if you don't mind the feet. The wings are kinda kewl though







You can read details in Zecharia Sitchin's "Divine Encounters". It's interesting how the simple mention of his name, is like a curse in threads often assaulted by disinfo shills...



“Nibiru settled into a clockwise orbit (equal to 3,600 orbits of Earth around the Sun). Nibiru stabilized into a clockwise orbit, equal to 3,600 orbits of Earth around the Sun until 10, 900 B.C.E., when Nibiru arrived earlier, due to increasing drift from Solaris of Uranus. Uranus' gravity sped Nibiru's orbit. As a result of this close encounter between Nibiru and Uranus, one of Nibiru's moons, Miranda, was captured by and became a moon of Uranus as Nibiru and Uranus pulled at each other. From 10,000B.C.E. on, Nibiru's revolution sped to 3.450 Earth years; which makes Nibiru's next return 2900A.D. rather than 2012 as predicated on the earlier 3600- year orbit”

Sitchin, Z., 2007, The End of Days, pages 315 - 317


2900 AD not 2012 In Sitchin's own words... that is 892 years away...

I guess we will have to wait a few generations to see these Annunaki



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posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by 1AnunnakiBastard
This is not a thread about "contactees", "channelers" or any researcher connected to these people. It's about people that were inside the government or military.


Ah well you were not clear on limitations, but Dan Burirsch is still on the list then
You can't believe in John and Bob and not believe Dan..

What about Ed Fouche? The TR3-B? He has TONS of documents about his military career on line right now



www.alienscientist.com...

And Sgt Karl Wolf.(Airman 2nd class with a top secret crypto clearance).. who told us that he worked at Langley and saw edited Lunar Orbiter photos that showed the Moon Base on farside. ?




OH BTW just ignore the fact that Lunar Orbiter flew in late 1966-1967, just a minor detail



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posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 06:45 PM
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The government. Because the more they don't address the matter, the more we realize they're covering it up. Silence speaks volumes at times.

They never did explain the 1952 UFO fleet over the White House did they? I didn't think so......




posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by SaturnFX
Blossom Goodchild hands down.


She singlehandedly turned a multitude of religious nutcase new age twits from the UFO community and pushed them out of the field, allowing it once again to be a semi-serious investigation into the phenomona.

Now don't get me wrong...there are still plenty of fruits and nuts in the movement, but her contribution allowed for soo many of them to become upset that this wasn't a religion that they went off and found some new nonsense to put all their hopes and dreams into.

So, heres to you Blossom...thank you for bringing to light the absolute nonsense thinking the window licking mad have been bringing to the study of UFOs and Extraterrestrials..



I can say I never followed or even heard of Blossom, but what a great video clip! I actually believe that she believed they were going to come and that's good enough for me to check out what she believed would happen in back in October.



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien
The government. Because the more they don't address the matter, the more we realize they're covering it up. Silence speaks volumes at times.

They never did explain the 1952 UFO fleet over the White House did they? I didn't think so......



The Ancient Alien Series "The Return" episode has some good info on this case, and there is supposedly a documentary coming out about the incident. I had looked up on wiki info regarding the case because it was difficult to find a conclusion.


The July 29 Air Force press conference and Air Force’s explanation
In response to the INS "shoot-down" stories, to calm rising public anxiety [5] and answer the news media's questions about the sightings — and, hopefully, to slow down the numbers of UFO reports being sent to Blue Book, which were clogging normal intelligence channels — Air Force Major Generals John Samford, USAF Director of Intelligence, and Roger Ramey, USAF Director of Operations, held a well-attended press conference at the Pentagon on July 29, 1952. It was the largest Pentagon press conference since World War II (Peebles, 80). Press stories called Samford and Ramey the Air Force's two top UFO experts.[6]

Samford was heavily influenced by Capt. James, who had discussed the sightings with him earlier in the day and who also spoke at the conference. Samford declared that the visual sightings over Washington could be explained as misidentified aerial phenomena (such as stars or meteors). Samford also stated that the unknown radar targets could be explained by temperature inversion, which was present in the air over Washington on both nights the radar returns were reported.

In addition, Samford also argued that the radar contacts were not caused by solid material targets, and therefore posed no threat to national security. In response to a question as to whether the Air Force had recorded similar UFO radar contacts prior to the Washington incident, Samford admitted that there had been "hundreds" of such contacts where Air Force fighter interceptions had taken place, but stated they were all "fruitless".

The conference proved to be successful in "getting the press off our backs", Ruppelt later wrote (Ruppelt, 169).




Criticisms of the Air Force explanation
Almost from the moment of General Samford's press conference, eyewitnesses, UFO researchers, and Air Force personnel came forward to criticize the temperature inversion/mirage explanation. Captain Ruppelt noted that Major Fournet and Lt. Holcomb, who disagreed with the Air Force's explanation, were not in attendance at Samford's press conference. Ruppelt himself discovered that "hardly a night passed in June, July, and August in 1952 that there wasn't a [temperature] inversion in Washington, yet the slow-moving, solid radar targets appeared on only a few nights" (Ruppelt, 170).

According to a story printed by INS, the United States Weather Bureau also disagreed with the temperature inversion hypothesis, one official stating that "such an inversion ordinarily would appear on a radar screen as a steady line, rather than as single objects as were sighted on the airport radarscope."[7]

Also, according to Ruppelt, when he was able to interview the radar and control tower personnel at Washington National Airport, not a single person agreed with the Air Force explanation. Michael Wertheimer, a researcher for the government-funded Condon Report, investigated the case in 1966. He found that the radar witnesses still disputed the Air Force explanation, but that did not stop the report from agreeing with the temperature inversion/mirage explanation (Clark, 660). Ruppelt related that on July 27 the control tower at Washington National had called the control tower at Andrews AFB and notified them that their radar had an unknown object just south of the Andrews control tower, directly over the Andrews AFB radio range station. According to Ruppelt, when the Andrews control tower personnel looked they all saw "a huge fiery-orange sphere" hovering over the range station (Ruppelt, 160). When Ruppelt interviewed the tower personnel several days later, they insisted that they had been mistaken and had merely seen a bright star. However, when Ruppelt checked an astronomical chart he found that there were no bright stars over the station that night, and that he had "heard from a good source that the tower men had been 'persuaded' a bit" by superior officers to state that their sighting was merely a star (Ruppelt, 169).

There were also witnesses who claimed to see structured craft and not merely "glows" or bright lights. On July 19 an Army artillery officer, Joseph Gigandet, was sitting on the front porch of his home in Alexandria, Virginia, across the Potomac River from Washington. At 9:30 p.m. he claimed to see "a red cigar-shaped object" which sailed slowly over his house. Gigandet estimated the object's size as comparable to a DC-7 airplane and at about 10,000 feet altitude; he also claimed that the object had a "series of lights very closely set together" on its sides. The object eventually flew back over his house a second time, which led Gigandet to assume that it was circling the area (Clark, 657). When the object flew away a second time, it turned a deeper red color and moved over the city of Washington itself; this occurred less than two hours before Edward Nugent first spotted the unknown objects on his radar at Washington National. Gigandet claimed that his neighbor, an FBI agent, also saw the object (Clark, 657). Dr. James E. McDonald, a physicist at the University of Arizona and a prominent ufologist in the 1960s, did his own analysis of the Washington sightings. After interviewing four pilot eyewitnesses and five radar personnel, McDonald argued that the Air Force explanation was "physically impossible" (Clark, 661). Harry Barnes told McDonald that the radar targets "were not shapeless blobs such as one gets from ground returns under anomalous propagation", and that he was certain the unknown radar blips were solid targets; Howard Cocklin agreed with Barnes (Clark, 661).




Aftermath: The Robertson Panel
The extremely high numbers of UFO reports in 1952 disturbed both the Air Force and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). Both groups felt that an enemy nation could deliberately flood the U.S. with false UFO reports, causing mass panic and allowing them to launch a sneak attack. On September 24, 1952, the CIA's Office of Scientific Intelligence (OSI) issued a memorandum to Walter B. Smith, the CIA's director. The memo stated that "the flying saucer situation . . . have national security implications . . . [in] the public concern with the phenomena . . . lies the potential for the touching-off of mass hysteria and panic" (Clark, 514). The result of this memorandum was the creation in January 1953 of the Robertson Panel. Physicist Howard Percy Robertson chaired the panel, which consisted of prominent scientists and which spent four days examining the "best" UFO cases collected by Project Blue Book. The panel dismissed nearly all of the UFO cases it examined as not representing anything unusual or threatening to national security. In the panel's controversial estimate, the Air Force and Project Blue Book needed to spend less time analyzing and studying UFO reports and more time publicly debunking them. The panel recommended that the Air Force and Project Blue Book should take steps to "strip the Unidentified Flying Objects of the special status they have been given and the aura of mystery they have unfortunately acquired" (Peebles, 102). Following the Panel's report, Project Blue Book would rarely publicize any UFO case that it had not labeled as "solved"; unsolved cases were rarely mentioned by the Air Force.



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posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 08:13 PM
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Originally posted by game over man
The Ancient Alien Series "The Return" episode has some good info on this case, and there is supposedly a documentary coming out about the incident. I had looked up on wiki info regarding the case because it was difficult to find a conclusion.


You cannot reach a conclusion when you don't have any more evidence to examine. They did a fly over, stirred everyone up , and left.

Had one landed, or had we shot one down, then we could reach a conclusion.

Now here is a question...

Out of ALL the whistle blowers, disclosures , chanellers and other assorted talkers...


WHICH ONE of them has proven what they say is true with ONE hard piece of evidence that can be verified?

If the answer is NONE... then the story of Stanton Friedman is not different from the story of Blossom Goodchild... because in the end, while one opinion comes from a physicist, and another opinion comes from a chaneller...

The bottom line is we still have no truth... only endless arguments over which story is more believable

So while we are talking about stories... did I tell you the one where the US Army is using time reversal to calculate where a bullet is going to come from?




posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 08:37 PM
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Not sure if he's considered a whistle blower or not, but Ben Rich is a personal favorite. I've always been on the fence about UFOs, until I read these quotes. Someone of this caliber, that has seen so many things, been apart of some of the most top secret military organizations.. says a lot to me.

“We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity….. anything you can imagine we already know how to do.”
Ben Rich, former Head of the Lockheed Skunk Works

“We now have the technology to take ET home. No, it won’t take someone’s lifetime to do it. There is an error in the equations. We know what it is. We now have the capability to travel to the stars. First, you have to understand that we will not get to the stars using chemical propulsion. Second, we have to devise a new propulsion technology. What we have to do is find out where Einstein went wrong.”

When Rich was asked how UFO propulsion worked, he said, “Let me ask you. How does ESP work?” The questioner responded with, “All points in time and space are connected?” Rich then said, “That’s how it works!”


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posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 08:41 PM
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Phillip Klass, some of the inane drivel and outright lies, that bloke came up with told me all i need to know that there is something more to the phenomenon than many would have you believe.



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 08:43 PM
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S&F


Since the OP has posted such signifigant people "coughs" of the Disclosure movement is over run by the lunatic fringe i will nominate the following.

The Orb Queen of PA Alison kruse




Alison Kruse has "disclosed" the land of youtube with
night vision footage of Orbs and Blinkies she calls them, morphing orbs and aliens letting off shotguns in her near by woodland behind her home. Even almost downing air craft from the near by airports with lasers. Yes the Orb Queen herself has enlightened so many people with her iron fist of truth, dare not call them planes or helicopters or you will be censored swiftly by crazy Allie and her minions. The UFO community and MUFON wont touch the woman hmmm must mean cover up?

yeah that's the ticket , they must be disinfo agents .


Marshall Applewhite (heavens gate)



With his divine wisdom and insight Marshall Applewhite proved his immortality and his lemmings followed him in death. transcending the metaphysical existence to the 12th density to be picked up by a star ship in the hale bop comets tail. Boy were we wrong... he really shwed us.





Rael of the Reliens




The sci fi version of Hare Krishna's, not available at your local airport

Rael, who says he has personally met Muhammad in 1975 when he was transported to another planet by aliens, is encouraging everyone to make caricatures of all religious figures including himself.

Ahhh yes nothing proves UFO's are real like corny robe only Sarek from star trek would wear.

Need i say more


Disclosure is Imminent obviously

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posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 08:58 PM
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So let me check this then. A whistle-blower, is someone from within an organisation who chooses to reveal secret facts and agendas to the public at large? So the people you are talking about who were they working for, or are you party to some deeper knowledge about these folk? See, cos from where I'm standing the people you quote are lone nutters, which logically, automatically disqualifies them from being whistle-blowers.

Klass was quite obviously a stooge for some arm of the government, he became a whistle-blower by accident, by dint of him being such an utterly objectionable person, he lost the confidence of just about every expert he worked with and had to resort to outright lies and pure bs to keep his act going.



posted on Nov, 28 2010 @ 01:35 AM
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Originally posted by FireMoon
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So let me check this then. A whistle-blower, is someone from within an organisation who chooses to reveal secret facts and agendas to the public at large? So the people you are talking about who were they working for, or are you party to some deeper knowledge about these folk? See, cos from where I'm standing the people you quote are lone nutters, which logically, automatically disqualifies them from being whistle-blowers.

Klass was quite obviously a stooge for some arm of the government, he became a whistle-blower by accident, by dint of him being such an utterly objectionable person, he lost the confidence of just about every expert he worked with and had to resort to outright lies and pure bs to keep his act going.


The thread began like "yess" then "ooohhhh" with the usual. Stan is the man , one of the great ones but the others are no where near his caliber. It is all about relevance, Friedman, Mackabee , in the end Hyneck was the Malcom X of UFOligy he seen what was happening beneath the surface. There is lack of substitutes today to pick up where these guys left off and that is how i feel about it.

pardon my typos

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posted on Nov, 28 2010 @ 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by 1AnunnakiBastard
This is not a thread about "contactees", "channelers" or any researcher connected to these people. It's about people that were inside the government or military.


I didn't take it as such, I doubt if many that post here do either. These same members post this pissing match in so many threads of the Aliens & UFOs Forum, that when I see they are posting, I don't bother reading their hijacking BS. I'm just going to post anyway this time, ignore their BS, and hopefully the Admins of this board will make them either take it to the debate forum, or shut up once and for all. Isn't thread hijacking against the TOS? Star this post if you agree with me. Or report me to the Admins. I'm tired of it myself and it won't stop if we don't speak up.


Anyway, back on topic. I forgot about Gordon Creighton until a thread by Karl12 was bumped today. He is a former English Diplomat. This clip is from a 1977 BBC documentary titled "Out Of This World." Gordon Creighton's concepts were revolutionary back in the day. They seem quite topical for current UFO theories. Watch and see what I mean:



Not really a "whistle-blower" per se. His concepts and understanding of the phenomena puts him well before his time. Another "honorable mention."

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posted on Nov, 28 2010 @ 08:16 PM
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I'd say George counts.You can't really be much more establishment than ex diplomatic corp. In terms of *need to know*, diplomats are often party to secrets, if only on a surface level, that many, of a possibly much higher rank in the military or elected government might not be party to.



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