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reply posted on 27-11-2010 @ 04:09 PM by mike184ever
reply to post by sonofliberty1776



you may reconsider your position after finding out China has a very nice Navy.And also Russia expanding its Navy now with China a very close ally. Remember never say never


reply posted on 27-11-2010 @ 04:16 PM by Judge_Holden
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They do NOT have a "very nice" navy.

At all.

It is actually the weakest, most laughable naval fleet in the advanced world. They have about ten ships (give or take), the majority of which being de-commissioned American ships that were sold to Taiwan in the mid to late 90's. I would actually ask you to reconsider your position.

China poses no immediate threat to our physical safety. None.


reply posted on 27-11-2010 @ 10:57 PM by saltdog
reply to post by Vandalour



You should continue to live your life and go to work, have birthday parties and everything your doing now....we have been in several wars and you just live your life.......why would you stop everything go to survival mode???? We are at war now...why haven't you done it already....wake up...grow up...better yet go live in the woods...the bears need to eat to...LOL


reply posted on 28-11-2010 @ 09:09 AM by sonofliberty1776
reply to post by mike184ever

My friend, I beg to differ. According to global security.org, they have 50 amphibious warfare ships(some are actually hospital ships or whatever). Let's assume, for the sake of argument that they are all able to make the trip to San Diego or wherever. Their largest, most modern vessels are capable or carrying 800 troops and up to 15 tanks each.(see link). They all cannot carry that many but again, for the sake of argument, let's assume they can. That would be a grand total of 40,000 troops. That is the limit of their sealift capacity. Even if they had enough ships to keep those troops in supply, which they don't, they are physically incapable of mounting an invasion of the US. They really cannot even invade Taiwan with what they have. Note that I also assumed no resistance from the USN, or the USAF. Seriously, at the present time, it is impossible.

www.globalsecurity.org...



reply posted on 28-11-2010 @ 09:12 AM by Fiberx
reply to post by Vandalour



Probably get recalled to service.

If it happens, it happens.


reply posted on 28-11-2010 @ 10:17 PM by redoubt
reply to post by Vandalour




What would you do if war breaks out?


I guess that would depend on whom we were at war with and why. Wars are a dime-a-dozen right now and with the country (US) so very politically polarized, your closest enemy could be the guy next door who voted differently than you in the last election..

The world is in chaos. Even in the depths of the Cold War, we all understood what Mutual Assured Destruction meant. That bit of wisdom is now neglected... using the bomb is no longer verboten. Insanity is the new policy. Ignorance the new standard. Political division the new patriotism.

I dunno exactly what i would do but... I am happy to report that at my age, I probably won't live long enough to see how bad it will eventually get.


reply posted on 28-11-2010 @ 10:23 PM by BigTimeCheater
Originally posted by Judge_Holden
reply to
post by ziggy1706



Yeah, it sure is fun watching fellow Americans get massacred, huh?


Nothing wrong with a little housecleaning taking place in DC.

It would most likely improve things.


reply posted on 28-11-2010 @ 10:35 PM by ANNED
Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
reply to
post by mike184ever

My friend, I beg to differ. According to global security.org, they have 50 amphibious warfare ships(some are actually hospital ships or whatever). Let's assume, for the sake of argument that they are all able to make the trip to San Diego or wherever. Their largest, most modern vessels are capable or carrying 800 troops and up to 15 tanks each.(see link). They all cannot carry that many but again, for the sake of argument, let's assume they can. That would be a grand total of 40,000 troops. That is the limit of their sealift capacity. Even if they had enough ships to keep those troops in supply, which they don't, they are physically incapable of mounting an invasion of the US. They really cannot even invade Taiwan with what they have. Note that I also assumed no resistance from the USN, or the USAF. Seriously, at the present time, it is impossible.

www.globalsecurity.org...



China has a very large merchant fleet with a large number of the ships owned by the PLA
They have 130 vessels with a capacity of 320,000 Twenty-foot equivalent units (TEU) in just the COSCO Group ships

A 20 foot equivalent shipping container could hold 10 troops with gear.
That means they could move 64,000,000 troops using there COSCO Group merchant fleet if they had to.
en.wikipedia.org...

And they have other shipping companies.

Many of these ships are manned by reserve military officers. meaning with there time at sea they are very experienced.

Anti air weapon and some vehicle launched weapons systems could be put on top of the containers to give then Anti air and some standoff surface to surface capabilities.
And china has been working on a vertical takeoff and landing aircraft like the AV-8A Harrier

edit on 28-11-2010 by ANNED because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 29-11-2010 @ 07:51 AM by sonofliberty1776
reply to post by ANNED

I can only LOL. Merchant ships cannot force a landing against hostile forces. So you must plan for these merchant ships to tie up at port los angeles and unload armed troops in an orderly fashion? Seriously? Come on dude, just a little common sense please. We still haven't factored in the USN into the mix yet. So just for sh*ts and giggles, let's throw a few missiles into the mix. How is your container launched aa going to stand up to air launched or submarine launched anti ship missiles? The launch platforms would likely never even enter detection range, while your ships would be detected hundreds of miles away. But, just for fun, let's assume that these 64,000,000 troops got here. How would China feed them? Most of them would die of starvation within a couple months.
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