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U.S. seizes sites linked to copyright infringement

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posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 11:25 PM
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U.S. seizes sites linked to copyright infringement


news.cnet.com

The U.S. government has launched a major crackdown on online copyright infringement, seizing dozens of sites linked to illegal file sharing and counterfeit goods.

Torrent sites that link to illegal copies of music and movie files and sites that sell counterfeit goods were seized this week by the Immigration and Customs Enforcement division of the Department of Homeland Security. Visitors to such sites as Torrent-finder.com, 2009jerseys.com, and Dvdcollects.com found that their usual sites had been replaced by a message that said, "This domain name has been seized by ICE--Homeland Security
(visit the link for the full news article)


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posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 11:25 PM
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Well here we go! To stop the free flow of info on the web the Department of Homeland Security can now shut down web sights;All in the name of preventing illegal downloading.I see through this excuse and I'm sure most folks on here will as well.Think about it we provide snippets and links to copy righted news stories. So copyright infringement or not? Well just up to DHS decide this. No judge jury just them!

news.cnet.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
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posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 11:41 PM
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Nothing unexpected there..
But the can't shut down all sites unless they shut down the whole internet..
I don't think they would risk the wrath of the people that would create..



posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 11:46 PM
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Well remember earlier on here there was a post concerning giving Obama the authority to shut down the entire net in case of cyber attacks. Face it the ptb ain't scared



posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 11:53 PM
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the hacker crowd might have ways of fighting back
there is a certain morality within the hacker community if pushed
who knows what kind of mischief they might get up to...
if for no other reason then because they can



posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 11:59 PM
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This happened a couple of months ago as well. I don't remember where I read it, but I visited a link in the story which I did read and it lead me to the same "Seized" graphic.

If they're just cracking down on illegal warez sites, great. But it'll snowball I'm sure. First it's the illegal music business and then all of a sudden, they're going after "extremist" view points, i.e. ATS.



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 12:01 AM
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What am I missing here? They can seize the domain and direct it to their own (government) page, but the sites themselves are still intact and running, yes? You can still get to them by their IP address?

Will this extend to shutting down Web sites due to plagiarism? Hot linking to images? Just plain don't like you? Guess we better stick to the "no more than 3 paragraphs in a quote" rule here on ATS, eh? [/hyperbole]

Move over China, the US is challenging you in Web Censorship.



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 12:04 AM
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It's bad when they can shut down sites at will. It's getting harder for me to watch movies online. The US shut down 10 movie sites last month.

Pirate Bay is slapped by Sweden, but still operationally "teetering"
This is a huge fine with jail time!.

STOCKHOLM – A Swedish appeals court on Friday upheld the copyright convictions of three men behind The Pirate Bay, a popular file-sharing site that remains in operation despite attempts by authorities to shut it down. The Svea Appeals Court agreed with a lower court ruling that found Fredrik Neij, Peter Sunde and Carl Lundstrom guilty of helping users of the site to break Sweden's copyright law. However, the appeals court reduced their prison sentences from one year each to between four and 10 months and raised the amount they have to pay in damages to the entertainment industry to 46 million kronor ($6.5 million).

news.yahoo.com...



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 12:07 AM
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Can they claim property rights on leaked documents, a la, Wikileaks?



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 12:11 AM
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Can they claim property rights on leaked documents, a la, Wikileaks?


Was thinking along the same line, the leaks are government docs, will they consider them copyrighted material, and any site hosting them subject to copyright infringement? Can we expect Wikileaks' domain to be seized for this reason? Of course they'll seize a bunch of other "copyright infringing" sites first so it won't look like Wikileaks is being specifically targeted...



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 12:33 AM
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As I recall from reading this they don't even have to give any warning or notice. They can simply seize the site. I hope that SO has some backup plan in place for ATS. This place could be shut down on a moments notice with no warning and SO would be told it was due to copyright infringment and lose his shirt trying to prove otherwise.


I hope he can weigh in on this thread regarding the possibility of such a thing happening.



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 12:49 AM
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This is going to far, bring back the old america


copyright infringement laws are gone way to far.



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 01:02 AM
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Well isn't it about time. I am a proponent of Intellectual Property Rights. The Laws,Statutes,and Regulations
pertaining to such matters included.

I am ALL for protecting the inventor,creator,producer, performer,artist,performing artist,writer,lyricist,poet,
journalist,sculptor,welder,machinist,director,grower,singer,musician,novelist,clothing designer,Web Designer,
ad infinity,
to be hereby understood as "Resource Provider".

This is your one life, if you create something uniquely yours, then value should be placed to it accordingly.
YOU ARE PROVIDING A RESOURCE. We live in a resource backed monetary system.

You as an individual should have Every Right to Trade,Enforcement of Value,and Recourse of The Law to Protect the Natural and Respected Laws upholding your resource as valid.

Furthermore, This concept should be respected not only on a local,County,State,Regional, or Country Level,
but Globally.In other words, Intellectual Property Rights Protect you Internationally.

If you as the "Resource Provider" decide to "share" or "give away" your resource(s) without monetary compensation,no strings attached so to speak, That is YOUR RIGHT AND WILL. No fines ,penalties,
or legal adjuncts will be levied or permissible in any court of law in this case.

Theft of Creativity is unacceptable. Would you like to experience our different forms of enforcement?
We provide TOURS OF DUTY SEVEN DAYS A WEEK 365+ DAYS A YEAR. Regards,,,Wildmanimal

P.S. This applies to both International and Domestic Corporations as well.
Make a note of it, and forward the memo. THX,,,,
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posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 02:03 AM
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Originally posted by Wildmanimal
reply to post by buddybaney
 

Well isn't it about time. I am a proponent of Intellectual Property Rights. The Laws,Statutes,and Regulations
pertaining to such matters included.

I am ALL for protecting the inventor,creator,producer, performer,artist,performing artist,writer,lyricist,poet,
journalist,sculptor,welder,machinist,director,grower,singer,musician,novelist,clothing designer,Web Designer,
ad infinity,
to be hereby understood as "Resource Provider".

This is your one life, if you create something uniquely yours, then value should be placed to it accordingly.
YOU ARE PROVIDING A RESOURCE. We live in a resource backed monetary system.

You as an individual should have Every Right to Trade,Enforcement of Value,and Recourse of The Law to Protect the Natural and Respected Laws upholding your resource as valid.

Furthermore, This concept should be respected not only on a local,County,State,Regional, or Country Level,
but Globally.In other words, Intellectual Property Rights Protect you Internationally.

If you as the "Resource Provider" decide to "share" or "give away" your resource(s) without monetary compensation,no strings attached so to speak, That is YOUR RIGHT AND WILL. No fines ,penalties,
or legal adjuncts will be levied or permissible in any court of law in this case.

Theft of Creativity is unacceptable. Would you like to experience our different forms of enforcement?
We provide TOURS OF DUTY SEVEN DAYS A WEEK 365+ DAYS A YEAR. Regards,,,Wildmanimal

P.S. This applies to both International and Domestic Corporations as well.
Make a note of it, and forward the memo. THX,,,,
edit on 27-11-2010 by Wildmanimal because: Add in Sentence


Sorry i view it differently




This is your one life, if you create something uniquely yours, then value should be placed to it accordingly. YOU ARE PROVIDING A RESOURCE. We live in a resource backed monetary system.



Alot of people now and before didn't and don't have the money to buy something they wouldn't or would like and why should waste my on it?




This is your one life, if you create something uniquely yours, then value should be placed to it accordingly


That's the problem if you make create or make something you don't keep the profit the publishers do, you only get the half of the share and sometimes that doesn't help out the creator, after all its the creator that made it he or she have all of the profits not the publishers,publishers can keep there half share.


Another problem my friend is accessibility alot of new and yesterday mangas, comics movies and are hard to find in eupore and barely people even what mangas are or comics, and in eupore mangas are expense as the movies.

Thats why people in eupore want to watch TV,Movies,Mangas for Free

They cant have it both ways, so what do you will rather have on your plate for dinner? a Manga or some yummy tasty European food?



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 02:43 AM
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Now if they would just seize all the sites selling fake/counterfeit Viagra would be happy not to get all the email spam linking me to these sites.

Or all the Canadian pharmacy sites out of china or other Asian countries.



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 04:06 AM
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maybe if they would price stuff reasonably people would not lose respect for the artist / product etc. I mean look at linux. Most of it is free. Most of it has a mass following. And yet people spend their unpaid free time getting stuff to work and it now has more features than windows/mac and is more secure.

Another example is phone roms or free apps. Many people donate to the developers ...just for putting it for free!!! And moving back to priced right, look at the apple itunes store. Its priced right. Even blu-rays and digital streaming is priced better than cable. So more people are moving over to that. Now if cable offered a consumer friendly solution such as AL A CART then more people would move over to that. But because of greed and hard times people are moving away from such options. Most people appreciate what they "pirate" but have no way of givign back at this time.

So IP owner as you may be, think about that next time you price a cd for 18 bucks and only get 45 cents from it. I would be happy to support an IP as I usually do, but i refuse to pay 18 bucks for an album that has 1 good song. So are you going to comp me the other 17 songs I thought sucked?



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 05:14 AM
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WOW I was shocked I went to Torrent-Finder.com this morning and this came up "this domain name has been seized by ICE - Homeland Security Investigations". I have done some searching and its not a hoax and even the owner of the site had no clue what happened. The thing is this site wasn't like piratebay it's just links to other torrent sites. People have done research into the ip now existing and what rights have been taken away, but im not go over all that again. If your interested look here.

yro.slashdot.org...
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posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 07:47 AM
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I agree with your position. Copyright infringement is a crime. It's theft.

I am. in no way, supportive of the seizure of websites, especially without a warrant or judgment of some kind, and especially since I'm pretty sure this is just a step toward seizure of other sites like WikiLeaks and even ATS, that the government finds 'problematic', but I totally support the copyright infringement laws.


Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
Alot of people now and before didn't and don't have the money to buy something they wouldn't or would like and why should waste my on it?


If I can't afford something, I DON'T GET IT! What makes you think people have the right to steal things that they can't afford?



That's the problem if you make create or make something you don't keep the profit the publishers do...


The arrangement between the creator and the publisher is NONE of our business. If the creator agrees to give ALL the profits to a duck in South Asia, that's their privilege and not our concern.




Another problem my friend is accessibility


Hey, I'd like to have a brand new 1972 Volkswagen Bug, but accessibility is a problem. That doesn't mean it's OK to steal it.




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posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 01:22 PM
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This has nothing to do with Copyright Protection. The sites that are being talked about.. the ones being taken down... They are search engines! They are NOT hosting the content, they are linking to the hoted content. So the question that has already been asked needs to be asked again... when is google going to be seized for linking to illegal content?

Doesn't matter what side of the file sharing aisle you are on, when a person or company is now banned from even even *saying* hey there's something over there that you might like... well, we have entered a dangerous era.



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 01:49 PM
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Most torrent search sites rely on P2P tools (utorrent, bittorrent, etc) to find and return search results for torrents. In other words the torrents they find are the results of private individuals placing them (seeding) online. They don't host or have any control over what the legality of these torrents are, which is really the same status as Rapidshare has when it comes to control over files.

Rapidshare is one of the top targets for COICA.

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