will the real power mongers please stand up.

so, which group is the most powerful concerning the planet we live on?
obviously many here believe it is the jews.
anyone want to put in a vote for the vatican, maybe the jesuits?
how about the u.n. or possibly the bildeburgers.
seriously, who is the cause of most of the woes in the world?
maybe it's just the u.s. government due to the fact that many believe this is the most powerful nation on earth.
also, what is it that gives said group their power, money, influence, sheer brutality or?

Originally posted by rubbertramp
so, which group is the most powerful concerning the planet we live on?
obviously many here believe it is the jews.
anyone want to put in a vote for the vatican, maybe the jesuits?
how about the u.n. or possibly the bildeburgers.
seriously, who is the cause of most of the woes in the world?
maybe it's just the u.s. government due to the fact that many believe this is the most powerful nation on earth.
also, what is it that gives said group their power, money, influence, sheer brutality or?

Good question, I've often wondered WHO are the main players in this puzzle.

Without doubt all this s**t that is going down both financially and militarly is being brought on by someone or a group of people. The world is going down a road that has been prepared by TPTB or the NWO to name two of the accused.

Possibly Kissinger, and his cronies, it seems that anything underhanded has his name all over it.

Anybody else got some names to add..............

I was told that there are six factions that own the world. I don't know if it's true or not, but you said two of the names of the factions.

Originally posted by bdb818888
I was told that there are six factions that own the world. I don't know if it's true or not, but you said two of the names of the factions.

I agree, I've heard that there are six "families or groups" that control just about everything, including money.

All this crap just doesn't happen it is 'engineered".

For anyone interested in the "players" in this world game, read Jim Marrs "Rule by Secrecy", it has some real
"BELLRINGERS' in it that really make a lot of sense.

reply to post by rubbertramp

so, which group is the most powerful concerning the planet we live on?

This one is kind of tough because I am considering wealth, power and control over our lives.
I am going to say the Vatican because they have just as much wealth and power as any of them, but their control over the minds of people(although dwindling) coupled with their priceless collection of art and antiquities AND their possession of hidden knowledge or history contained within their artifact collection, puts them ahead of everyone else, imo.

Peace,
spec

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I personally think the media has handed each and every one of us all these names people commonly use to describe/identify the secret elite of this world.

I think having us endlessly regurgitate these "invented monikers" slanders us all and makes our concerns a joke easy to pass off as stupidity or paranoia.

I think it would do all people "a credit" to stop investing energy into "naming unproven cults, alien races, secret guilds, etc" and start demanding "real freedom" of our entire species.

They have all these "conspiracy theorists" yackling on about "this church" and "that secret cult" and "that damn alien race"...and what do we have? Millions of voices conflicting and sounding divided and "crazy".

If we just stopped saying that crap, and started saying "I don't care WHO controls this, I CONTROL THIS NOW, and I wan't this BS to change NOW", we would be a lot farther in our adventure to save the world (or change it).

You say Illuminati? I say you have been fed that term by various sources in hopes to sell a product or cause fear.

You say Reptiles...I say you have been conditioned by a small group of people with an agenda to make money and make you sound silly.

You say Bilderberg...I say you think way too small.

When someone says who is the real elite of this planet, your conflicting ideas limit your combined strength.

The real answer to such a question SHOULD BE "we the people are the elite of this world". Until we can unite on that simple principle- whatever ghost you want to invent or worship will be controlling you mentally, spiritually and financially for the rest of your short stay in this three-dimensional, hostile, void we call "the universe".

MM

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None of the above, satanists i reckon.

There is an energy these people tap into. There is no such thing as karma, as these people are pure evil.

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i do agree with your sentiments to a point, yet i also believe there are power mongers that we discuss often, yet don't give them credit for the power they yeild.
for instance, if i said a simple statement like,
he who controls the seed controls the population, who would come to mind?

That's an easy one. Foundation-X.

Bow down to your overlords!

This is the real question that only can lead down one path. A luciferic consciousness of some kind, alien to us. Because there is no ordinary way conflicting groups could be cohesive for so long.

Originally posted by rubbertramp
who is the cause of most of the woes in the world?

Satan
2nd

reply to post by Majestic23


Yep, the only question i have is this an entity that runs earth, or are they taping into some sort of energy?

i know i shouldn't be, but i'm a bit surprised by the 'satan' and 'luciferic' replies.
i blame evil on the humans themselves, not a possible cause for their evil.

for instance, i asked this question to a friend, his answer,
the muslim brotherhood and other organized muslims, dus to the fact that never in history has a group been the perfect excuse for our government to clamp down on our freedoms.

reply to post by rubbertramp


Na humans are way to stup1d to have run this world. If you have seen what the ptb did to my life, and how rubbish they really are you could tell no humans are smart enough to run society. Also why would a conspiracy run all this time, and across oceans? I can really tell you that the ptb are pretty rubbish overall, in regard of being right. No way on earth do they run planet earth, they would never get things right.

This is why you always hear about the people running society called the illuminati, and the light.

What is the light and how come the powers that be thing they are special, for recieving it?

They call everyone profane, just like cattle. Useless eaters.

Why do they think they are special?

good question
fands
because the rabbit hole goes up as well as down...
gotta think about who IS the power behind the throne and the visible.
We see the zionists for example but we KNOW they are agents for what is above them
the rothschilds started out as bankers to the duke of savoy ( have to dble check the name)
so they are after all agents
Looking forward to reading the answers on this thread.

reply to post by andy1033


i still disagree. i think people are just bright enough to set up this economy to fail.
i think it's far to easy to just say, the devil did it.
i think in the long run good is more powerful than evil, but it is human nature to control humans. we allowed the powerful go gain their power through manipulation, and of course now that they gained this power they will undoubtedly use it against us.
some humans are evil, if you want to give them an excuse for why they are evil, that is your choice. i tend to look at them as individuals who are evil by nature and want to control every aspect of our lives.

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hey dan, i'm not sure what this means?

fands

flag and star
dble compliment
one for thread one for post
the flag helps get you on the front page if you get enough of them
honesty I am so tired of picking on Zionists
I think the question you have asked is right at the heart of the matter
and I can't believe it hasn't been front and center all along

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ah, now i get it, and thanx for the compliment.

sometimes this site bothers me.
if i titled this thread, 'the zionazis are the cause of all the evil in the world'.
and then asked inside if there was anyone else to blame, we'd probably be on the 10th page by now.

Now I have two names from someones in the know.
"the Pindar", which I believe is a title, and another name which is, I am told is a family ABOVE the banking families:
GALEN
As in the name of the man who ran the eastern front intelligence ops for the nazis,
his network was lifted wholesale by the Americans after WW2, - operation paperclip...
I think we, or I, will have to investigate or examine along these lines.
This is going to be a challenge because it will lead to an entity which,
while it may not EXACTLY be the Christian "SATAN", it will be just like it.