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If the Universe entirely resides in the Mind of the Creator then I only have one question...
Originally posted by Fenix777
reply to post by Dr Cosma
Nonono, the hugging thing was purely an example. The OP wants to know our thoughts, what do we think the aliens could find as a big universal taboo, that we would NOT be prepared to give up, in other words, think outside the box and stop trying to think of them in human terms. And yes, exactly, if the aliens want us to give up something like hugging then they're not our friends, which means we don't want them here.
Here's a hug for you .. as requestededit on 27-11-2010 by Fenix777 because: ETA he is looking for us to give other "examples" like the hugging one he/she gave
Originally posted by Fenix777
reply to post by Dr Cosma
IF they were to expect us to give up something that is vital to us, like hugs, then yes, they would be the bad guys. But what if they want us to change something that TPTB don't WANT to change, that is in fact bad for us, like my example of us ripping the earth apart to indulge in greed? What does it make them then? Good or bad? For some they would be the bad guys and for others they would be the good guys, depending on your beliefs. If they are the bad guys to TPTB then TPTB also will naturally have the resources to poison us against them, by spreading lies, and scaring the people half to death, funding new movies depicting the aliens as a predatory race come to eat us (War of Worlds) (errr ... just an example I'm not saying that's what War of Worlds is about, ). The sheeple would eat that up, and their first instinct if and when the aliens to come, would be, they're bad... and go running down the street naked shouting at the top of their lungs "it's the end of the world!" *sigh*
I'm also saying that TPTB might be telling the truth, they might not be, it would help if they're just honest about everything, and then we would know and understand what's going on and what to believe. Unfortunately, telling lies upon lies, only makes it possible for people to distrust everything that comes out of your mouth, hence if for once, which is highly unlikely, they are telling the truth and the aliens coming ARE in fact bad, we wouldn't believe them, simply because they've lied to us so many times in the past, and thereby, putting us right in the line of fire. I can't stand liars.
Your logic tells you that if they're good guys then they would have stepped in already, that is a natural reaction, to expect them to step in. But in all honesty, would you? Would you step in in a complete stranger's life, if you could, and fix it? Why should you, what made it your responsibility to do so? If you did step in, and only managed to make things worse because you completely misunderstood the person, who takes the responsibility then? Is it right for you to meddle in in a stranger's life, when you actually don't know enough about his/her life and circumstances, or about him/her. What makes it right? Shouldn't we as a species take responsibility for our own actions and fix our own mess? Wouldn't doing that alone, evolve us to a much more mature species, if we could? Don't we teach our children from small to take responsibility for their own actions, and then what, they grow up and suddenly it becomes the good aliens' job to fix our mess? Where/when do those lines get blurred and is accepted? Is it right for me to come and tell you how to live your life? And then, would you listen to me and do what I tell you? Of course not, you going to send me in my *&&^$ you in very quickly, you'll even give my the directions to there. Knowing myself, I KNOW, I'm going to tell you (direct translation) tell you where David buried the roots. (hmmm ...that doesn't quite work, ok, try, I'll very definitely tell you to go fly straight into hell) I don't take very kindly to strangers telling me how to live my life. So then, how can you expect the good aliens to to step in?
Thinking along the lines of they are an evolved lot, with powers and all this amazing technology, and they should help us, is a natural reaction, but not very practical. Therefore you can't really judge them according to that rule.
ETA: Ok, where is the fail button for those that don't read OPs? You at least got something, and the adjustment was small, but these that the message just went right over their heads, I'm looking for a fail button I'd like to hear other people's thoughts on this, not whatever this is coming out of their mouths, so to speak.edit on 27-11-2010 by Fenix777 because: ETA
I don't think that our behavior is the same as that of any other species, plant, animal or microbe, if that were true then that would give us the permission to randomly do really stupid things without regard of any consequences.
I believe we can find a new way of doing things, if we put our minds together.
If we were like you state "our behavior is the same as that of any other species, plant, animal or microbe". If that were true, then we would be completely un-aware, and oblivious to the the wrongs being committed against us and our earth.
Originally posted by Astyanax
reply to post by SaturnFX
Amazing how many people have mistaken your meaning. Or it would be, if I didn't know, from a quarter-century in the communications business, just how mentally challenged the general population is.