As promised, i wanted to talk about the flight AF3532 from Nice (South France) to London (UK)...
The Facts :
For those who don't understand french, the blue line is the radar trace of the french Airbus, the red line is the radar trace of the UFO.
The encounter happened near Paris, and there was an OTAN radar next to this area.
As for every unusual observations, french pilotes must fill a form. here is the form they filled at their arrival :
For the PILOT
For the CO-PILOT
Once again, the interessant part is the description of the UFO. It is written in french and both testimony are 90% the same :
SHAPE : Disc
COLOR : Dark/ Red Dark / Translucid
Dimension : 300 meters (!!!)
Distance from the plane : 25 miles
The pilot said that the object was not moving and slowly disappear while the co-pilote stated that the object was changing form.
So we got two pilots who not only said but REPORTED officialy a HUGE UFO. 300 meters is not something you can miss in the sky
The plane was at 10500m high.
Naturally, they alerted the closest navigation Control Center, at Reims (150 km from Paris). Their radar show nothing, but as the procedure asked,
Reims warned the CODA (Centre d'opérations de la défense aérienne, the equivalent of USA's NORAD). The CODA's radar, for 50 seconds, showed a trace
near the plane at the exact moment and place the pilotes said it happens. This is the red trace on the first picture of this thread. The radar trace
disappears exactly when the pilots said it vanished...
So according to an official report, an official radar gave credit to the pilots sayings and reports.
Here is an english interview of the pilot... i also include next to this interview videos of french news (yes, here it hits the main media, i remember
it i was a young adult at this time)...
TERMS YOU NEED TO KNOW BEFORE READING THIS INTERVIEW :
English version of the COMETA report
There was an ATS THREAD
on cometa report : but it was not really taken in account
it s a semi-official disclosure as the document has been un-officialy asked by our president and PM and officialy written by active militaries and
THE INTERVIEW : (SOURCE
-You were a flight commanding officer at AIR France and on January 28, 1994, you have encountered an unusual phenomenon as you were doing the Nice to
London flight 3532. Could you tell what you witnessed?
-I was indeed commander of flight AF-3532 of January 28, 1994, with copilot Valerie Chauffour, and 24 passengers on board. I have kept a copy of the
"OCTAVE", which is the data-processing follow-up of the flight and I can specify that above the Paris area at the altitude of 11700 meters (FL 390),
the outside temperature was of minus 59 Celsius degrees, and with a wind from the North-West had a speed of1 80 km/h (311°/101 kts). The visibility
was of more than 300 km (150 Nm) and the cloud cover consisted of altocumulus. The flight encountered no airshakes. The navigation was under excellent
weather conditions, in spite of the facing wind of almost 130 km/h (70 kts). That gave us a ground speed of 650 km/h (350 kts). The takeoff hour in
Nice was 00h56pm UT and the arrival hour in London 02:13pm UT. It was a particularly calm flight, without particular problem. We arrived above
Coulommiers when a steward who was in the cockpit noticed an object which he thought could be a weather balloon. This object was then seen by the
copilot and myself a few moment afterwards. According to their description it seemed to have a variable form and to come very quickly across our road.
I first identified it like an aircraft facing us, at approximately 45 km (25 Nm), at an altitude of approximately 10500 meters (25 Nm) and at an angle
close to 45°. I found this slope absolutely abnormal because aircraft are not inclined at this altitude beyond 30 degrees without risking to fall
down. This object seemed to us then absolutely abnormal by its size which seemed immense, its dark red color and of the fuzzy edges. I had the
impression to observe a gigantic lens in evolution. It did not resemble anything we had seen in our flying careers. This object, this phenomenon,
remained motionless while we left it on our left side, still at an aproximate distance of 45 km. We observed it during a good minute, conscious that
we were seing something utterly anomalous. We continued to observe it when it gradually merged with the environment. We saw it becoming translucid,
transparent, diluted in space. That was absolutely amazing. After some interrogations we contacted the control center of Rheims to announce this
unidentified object to them, as we are required by air transportation regulation.
-Was this "object" tracked by your instruments? What about he black box of flight 3532? Were the communications between your aircraft and the control
center in Rheims recorded?
-Our ON BOARD instruments are not intended to locate other aircraft. The airborne radar is only intended to locate storms in order to be able to avoid
the air movements ascending and descebding, associated with them, characteristic of these clouds, the cumulonimbi. During this event the radar was not
in operation, as it is only necessary in instrument flying (IFR). In the same way, the black box cannot in any case detect aircraft or phenomena far
away from the plane. On the Airbus 320 there is a first recorder which is the Quick Access Recorder (QAR). It records only flight parameters, speed,
altitude, mechanics, engines, electric, etc. It is analyzed by the maintenance service. The second recorder, the DFDR, has the same recordings but
must support the constraints of an accident. This recorder is analysed only if a crash occurs or on request of the crew. As no parameter of our flight
has been modified, the tapes were not analyzed because it would have been pointless. The UFO was at nearly 45 km of our aircraft, and there has been
no electric or magnetic disturbances. On the other hand this UFO was approximately 10 km above Paris, and the Parisian people, under layer of clouds,
were much closer to the UFO than we were. If there had been electromagnetic disturbances, a few million people would have noticed it. The
communications were always preserved, and it is the same for the main TV and radio shows!
-Which were the continuations of this affair, at a professional and personal level? Have you been interviewd by the civilian or military authorities?
-In the immediate, the continuations were non-existent, because I did not submit a written report to avoid being ridiculed. It was three years later,
as I read an article from Paris Match, which described how a UFO has been detected above Paris, that I made the connection between this UFO and that
what I had seen. I then submitted a report to the Gendarmerie Nationale (French police, having an SOP for collection of UFO reports).
-Was your testimony transmitted to the SEPRA? Which were the continuations brought by this branch of the CNES?
-My report was transmitted by the Gendarmerie to the SEPRA, and the UFO Committee, was created within the framework of the Association of the Former
Auditors of the Institute fot the High Studies of National Defense (IHEDN). I was heard during nearly one hour and half by the group chaired by
General Denis Letty. After discussing about the observation, we concluded that the object was approximately 300 meters in diameter. I took note of the
radar recordings by the CODED (Operational Center of Air Defense). There is a very curious characteristic for the trajectory of the UFO, as it shows
that it would have almost collidedus. The minimal distance on the recording is less than 1 Nm, that is to say 10 seconds of flight. This kind of
observation is traditional in electronic war. The modern military aircraft are furtive, and at the same time able to synthesize a virtual image of
themselves by delaying the radar echo. If a missile had been drawn on this UFO, which was above Paris, it would be our A320 which would probably have
been hit by the missile. I think that it is not desirable to shoot fire at this kind of phenomenon.
-Did you speak again of your observation with your colleagues of flight 3532? Which is, now, their feeling about this affair?
-I never found the steward who was in the cockpit. My various requests to find the list of the crew fot this flight were left unanswered by the of the
commercial flight crew personal management (PNC). I had indeed four crew in two days, and I did not keep the lists of the members with me, because
they are on the on board documentation. On the other hand I have reexamined the case several times with the copilot who has a very precise memory of
the event, and who wrote a report for the gendarmerie (police) of the Charles De Gaulle Airport. I can only suggest you asking them about their
-During your pilot career, have you heard from collegues or other air personal, of similar phenomena?
-I barely speak about this encounter, and I had the surprise to note that about one out of ten pilot had observed a unidentified flying phenomenon.
-Your testimony appears in the COMETA Report, page 11, which has been publisehd in a special edition of the VSD magazine, this summer 1999. Were you
interviewed by this association? What do you think of this report, from a general point of view?
-As I said, I was actually auditioned by the above mentionned UFO Committee, which took shape in an association named COMETA. I have recently met Mr.
Denis Letty along with a friend who is flight commander on the Concorde, responsible for the training of pilots at the General Management of Civil
Aviation (DGAC), in order to study a regulatory possibility to have a reports form for UFO observations on the board of all French airliners. Their
report seemed to me extremely well conceived, written by high level personalities, and constitutes a reference for UFO question. It still has some
restricted diffusion because this subject is still one of the three great taboos of aeronautics. The first taboo is the cosmic radiation on aircraft.
From May 2000 on, the flying personal will have to carry a dosemeter and the amount of radiation received each year will be measured and calculated
according to the recommendations of the project SIEVERT which is developed by the General Management of Civil Aviation, the Institute of Protection
and Nuclear Safety (IPSN), the Office of Protection against radiation Ionizing (OPRI), and the Observatory of Paris-Meudon. Flight crew of
aeronautics, as well as astronauts will be soon classified among the people who receive amounts of radiations on their workplace. The amount of cosmic
radiation received by passengers or members of flight crew during a Europe to US trip and return trip is similar to a lung radioscopy, and this fact
is carefully hidden to the crews and the passengers since nearly 35 years. Indeed, a recommendation of the International Civil Aviation Organization
(ICAO), back in 1964, requested that the airlines take measurements of on board radiations on airliners. A modification of the European regulation in
May 2000, European directive 96/29 of May 13, 1996, divided by five the maximum amount of radiation applicable to the public, which will be able to
take only 1 millisievert per year, instead of five. The airline pilots, hostesses, steward receive between two and five mSv per year, which is more
than the majority of the workers in nuclear powerplants. This taboo will disapear when the information circulates in the general public. The second
taboo is the suicide of the airline pilots as they fly, and it will be shattered by the accident of the EGYPTAIR 990 flight, if the assumption of the
suicide of the copilot is to be confirmed. The third taboo is the UFO phenomenon UFO, and in particular the 220 visual observations confirmed by
radar, among them is mine. We can thank the COMETA team which, by the quality of its members, its knowledge, its overview, its hypothesis, makes it
possible to start to discuss seriously about the sightings from all points of the planet.
-On December 7, 1999, TV viewers have an occasion to see you in the "Why? How?" show, animated by Sylvain Augier and Julie Bhaud, for the France3
-As I took part myself in the recording of this show, I had the pleasant impression that the questions were not "oriented." The "And CO" team
(producing the show) seemed opened, although skeptic, and very sympathetic. If the editing does not suppress it, do you think that this kind of show
can have some utility for general public? What do you think about the attitude of the medias, in general, as for their editing of UFO related
information? As I wrote above, there are several taboos in aeronautics, and the reporters who dare to face these interdicts risk to be ridiculed, but
also to have trouble finding a job. This type of show require curiosity and courage, and the journalists know that they risk negative reactions, or
aggressive reactions, and derision. This type of emission is very important for it makes it possible to give previously confidential information to
the public. Information must pass gradually, whereas we must know that there will be all sorts of reactions. The bottomline of this problem is the
maturity of the public. Is the public ready to receive the information? The social psychologists can consider the consequences which an official
meeting with an extraterrestrial civilization would have, if they have several million years of technological advance. Which upheavals would be
induced? Will there be panic in the population? Which disappointed hopes? Will we find the best, the worst, or both? Which information should be given
to the public?
-Today, do you think that the origin of the UFO phenomenon is not our planet?
-The imensity of the universe, its beauty, its unknown features, the current technological progress, the space travels, the orbiting stations, and
what I saw, can only convince me that we are not alone in the universe and that we will take part, if we do not destroy ourselves, in the community of
the species which travel across the galaxy. The true current problem of our planet is not the existence, or not, of extraterrestrial civilizations but
all the problems caused by pollution, the accumulation of the weapons of destruction, fanaticism, totalitarianism, the overcrowding of our planet. If
we have something to fear maybe it is not the others, but our own kind.
-To conclude this interview that you so nicely granted us, do you have a particular message, a comment to be transmitted to our readers?
-I bought myself a 14 inches telescope, and I had a small astronomical observatory with a cupola of 3,50 meters constructed. Astronomy will be one of
my occupations in retirement, and if I must leave a message to your readers it is: take the time to look at the moon, the sun, the planets, the stars,
the galaxies, in the astronomical reviews, a club, or at home. I hope that one day each French village will have a small astronomical observatory so
that the children, and the teenagers, but also the adults, can satisfy their curiosity and become open to the mysteries of the universe.
FRENCH NEWS :
French News talkin about this incident
French News again
In this case, the pilots got the support of the CERN (the French NASA) and especially it's SERPA's bureau. One of the head of the CERN even wrote a
book about this subject.
An english article on the subject : click me
FRENCH SOURCE 1
FRENCH SOURCE 2
Some militaries officials, after seeing all the debates, tried to debunk this case saying that the witnesses saw the UFO coming to the left when the
radar showed a trace coming from the right... The answer of the pilot about this radar "bug" is :
"There is a very curious characteristic for the trajectory of the UFO, as it shows that it would have almost collidedus. The minimal distance on the
recording is less than 1 Nm, that is to say 10 seconds of flight. This kind of observation is traditional in electronic war. The modern military
aircraft are furtive, and at the same time able to synthesize a virtual image of themselves by delaying the radar echo. If a missile had been drawn on
this UFO, which was above Paris, it would be our A320 which would probably have been hit by the missile. "
My opinion is that a military radar is controlled only by the military and they can easily change something to avoid an official disclosure. And guess
what, no proper explanation was given for a radar trace maybe coming from the left or the right, but still not corresponding to any plane which was
supposed to flight this day... and a trace who appears and disappears in the middle of the air
Your thoughts guys ?
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