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Jaw Dropping Ultra Real CGI

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posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 06:57 AM
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Hi all,

While doing some research on how real CGI can get for a 911 post, I discovered the following jaw dropping film by Alex Roman a CGI specialist... Learn more about Alex Here.

The Third & The Seventh by Alex Roman HD

Please view in HD and full screen.




Just breath-taking, and I must say that as a musician the audio track off sets the imagery perfect to create an emotional response that can only be explained as brain and heart in perfect harmony.

There is a short sequence of compositing here for those that don't believe it's CGI.

The Third & The Seventh - Making of by Alex Roman HD.



This is another short film by Alex that is just breath-taking... again all CGI

Above Everything Else - Mind exploding realistic CGI by Alex Roman



More than breath-taking.... don't believe anything you see in the media anymore, nothing is as it may appear to be, second guess everything!!

Korg.

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posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 07:10 AM
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what makes you think it totally cgi? it very well could be real life shot in hd then copied over a cgi frame



posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 07:12 AM
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ATS really need to fix their youtube embedding script (maybe there is an updated one?) Most of the embeds here do not have the full-screen button.



posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 07:14 AM
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This is awesome to watch. Makes the possibilities endless doesn't it?



posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 07:17 AM
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Unbelievable.

Being a network techie and a life-long computer user I can usually pick out what is real and what's fake.

Not so here.

Imagine what can be done with an unlimited budget and a (series of) Cray Red Storm (aka Cray XT3) supercomputer(s) (officially the US work-horse machines).

Beautiful and scary at the same time.

ETA...

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The limiting factors are time and of course, money.

Watch Avatar (again?).

I don't see many six legged, four eyed, hammerhead rhinos walking around in real life.


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posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 07:29 AM
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Originally posted by [davinci]
Unbelievable.

Being a network techie and a life-long computer user I can usually pick out what is real and what's fake.

Not so here.

Imagine what can be done with an unlimited budget and a (series) of Cray Red Storm (aka Cray XT3) supercomputers (officially the US work-horse machines).

Beautiful and scary at the same time.


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I too have been involved in IT since the late 70's so to stand here now and look back and see the dizzying heights we have climbed, it's just so awe inspiring.

The thing I noticed most about the development of CGI is the way light can accurately be modelled. For it is light that is reality and to create a virtual version of reality one must be able to accurately model light correctly.

What I have taken from Alex's films is the virtual spaces he has created are so realistic yet fun to the extent that I want to actually walk there, like it's almost a shame that no one is there to actually be in those spaces.

Computational power and rendering capabilities are increasing exponentially, it won't be too long before this kind of imagery can be rendered in real time.

Where do I see this technology going??

I think once we can accurately model reality in 3D in real time the next step would be to create an interactive version that we could actually walk through, maybe virtual spaces hosted in empty real work spaces in a kind of augmented reality??

One thing is for sure this is just the best CGI I have ever seen....

Korg.


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posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 07:32 AM
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Originally posted by pcrobotwolf
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what makes you think it totally cgi? it very well could be real life shot in hd then copied over a cgi frame


The quote from the website and comments from Alex on the film.

It's unbelievable I know but it is Genuine full CGI.

Korg.



posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 07:41 AM
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its amazing then and nice find



posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 07:43 AM
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Dead on.

That's how I can tell when virtual sets are being used in tv and less-than-state-of-the-art movies...the lighting on the real portions doesn't match the artificial portions.

I saw a demo movie sometime last year made on IBM's prototype 80 Core processor (at the time the market date was 2014). If I hadn't been told that it was a CGI clip I would not have known that it wasn't real.

(I can't find the clip...it was on Discovery's Daily Planet...the clip was of a flock of birds flying over a mountain valley lake. Again, it was the reflections on the rippling water that carried it from being high quality CGI to something that was possiblly an actual video clip)



posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 07:51 AM
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Originally posted by [davinci]
reply to post by Korg Trinity
 


Dead on.

That's how I can tell when virtual sets are being used in tv and less-than-state-of-the-art movies...the lighting on the real portions doesn't match the artificial portions.

I saw a demo movie sometime last year made on IBM's prototype 80 Core processor (at the time the market date was 2014). If I hadn't been told that it was a CGI clip I would not have known that it wasn't real.


Yep it's incredible, The latest tech stacks the cores on top of each other in a kind of cube so the data can be processed in 3D so to speak. as in cores will be directly linked to each other and liquid cooled throughout the interior of the chip. Geez forget hyper threading can you image the speed??

In fact there was an article on bbc news not so long ago about it.

Supercomputers 'will fit in a sugar cube', IBM says



Think a few people would have to upgrade thier 133 motherboards though ey?


Korg.


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posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 08:14 AM
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star and flag for interests sake...
Did anyone see the thread about the pencil artist that did drawings that looked like photos?
with all the machinery there is still an artist behind the curtain...
hopefully there always is.
I really enjoyed the other parts too ( i double clicked to bounce my self over to utube for full screen and related vids menu) etc


The human brain and its perception is the other thing that gets teaked, the subconcioius believes everything.

Hey Korg
I luv korgs.
the digital versions I run with asio drivers for no latency are among my favourite toys
people can't tell it isn't live or memorex



posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 08:25 AM
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This video was discussed a while ago in another thread. The director of the video says it's totally cgi apart from a couple of things.
The clouds in some scenes are real and so is the photographer he was filmed on a green screen and pasted in



posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 08:31 AM
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To give an idea of how far we have come, here is a vid from 1972 of a huge achievement using huge rendering times to achieve.



We have gone from that to this from Nvidia back in 2007 rendered in realtime.






Originally posted by Danbones
Hey Korg
I luv korgs.
the digital versions I run with asio drivers for no latency are among my favourite toys
people can't tell it isn't live or memorex


Cool yeah I often use the wave station vsti quite a bit for atmospheric pads and Asio2 drivers rock!! I love softsynths though I would be nowhere if it wasn't for my trusty hardware trinity.

Hardware synths do tend to sound much fatter and richer in sound I do own quite a bit of hardware... but hey I don't have bottomless pits of money so use Reason 4 and a plethora of VSTis.

What DAW are you using? I'm on Cubase 5 at the minute.

And for those that think this is off topic… accurately modelling reality is what this thread is all about and what we are discussing above is the accurate modelling of a hardware synth … kind of the same subject applied to a different object

Korg.


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posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 08:39 AM
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This is very well done, high production value. This guy definitely has an eye for cinematography.

I am a 3D artist myself so it can generally be fairly easy for me to pick out reality from digital but this is very good...

Really it is not necessarily the power to compute such an image but really its how skilled the artist is to trick you. A common misconception is that the better an image looks the longer it takes to render... depending on the complexity of a scene and the technique used; most 3D images take about 3-10 minutes per frame. When I was in school you could tell who was actually having a harder time because they always took longer to render their projects.

Oh and making something like simulating a plane running into a building is incredibly easy



posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 08:44 AM
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you HAD to go there, didnt you



posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 08:46 AM
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That is probably the most impressive CGI I have seen to date. However, there are still tells that blatantly scream CGI. The over use of Film Grain effect. The crazy amount of ray tracing HDR. The constant focus shift. The models are fantastic but the effects laid over them are what gives it away for me.



posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 09:16 AM
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having done some more research I uncover this... OMG!!

Check this out...



It's CGI, by Liam Kemp

Though this has to be using tech such as Pendulum...



Korg.
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posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 09:38 AM
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Originally posted by pcrobotwolf
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what makes you think it totally cgi? it very well could be real life shot in hd then copied over a cgi frame

This is a well known ultra detailed animation created and rendered in 3D Max Vray environment. I also used to work in that environment and I can tell you, this is CGI and what Alex did here is one of the best.
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posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 09:38 AM
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what i mentioned is this cool thing
not just the art is virtual THE EQUIPEMENT IS i think that is pertinent
you can build the deadliest recording studio free and makke it work in a quiet environment
it is totally empowering

the reason I brought up the sound aspect is because it is really important for tricking the brain into accepting the images
TOGETHER they provide the immersion experience...
I use sonar and cubase with vst(i) and DX sockets
but for live or mix to DVD I use vst sockets that allow for up sampling and so the out put is better than tape
24 bit and what ever sampling rate the sound card will out put...gets it up to the hardware guality
there are some deadly FREE vst colletions
I can do it all in the machine with -104 db noise floor....!!!! an SM 57 is deaf beloe -80 db!
I don't use a rack any more, I use multible card and asio drivers!
gives me inserts and mains

U2U me if there's something interesting I might share, so we don't bore the readers.

What is out there for free is just unbelievable and I am NOT talking ripped here

I have a FREE university modelled marshall head that just drops my jaw....
and let me tell you guitar is the most difficult to model accurately...
asio allows for multiple cards like SB lives so instant multi track machine for 5 bucks a card!
mike a drum kit with old head phones for mikes and use them to trigger samples!

point of my post is to say what has been brought into the reach of starving artists
makes me glad to be alive now.
you can tell where my heart is so
Ill just shut up now
heh heh
Ps im in ONT
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posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 01:15 AM
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Wow those where some sick scenes. I have to say some of the best ive seen.

Here's also a great video:
www.youtube.com...

Its a musics video for Nine Inch Nails Only. I had no idea it was CGI until an interview came out.

So ya, its pretty nuts.

Kinda sad though, because anything can be CGI now that means even if you saw a "real" ghost or UFO or whatever it could always be CGI in todays world.



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