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posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 03:05 AM
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Originally posted by Immortalgemini527
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wow, that is a pretty interesting story... kudos for living to tell the tale... but this line-

"I cant really go into details for fear that your angels don’t really have the ..forget it."

What is *that* about? If you really wanted me to forget it, wouldn't you have simply deleted it?
Tell me...what's the point in adding to confusion? seriously, just spit it out. Isn't it much simpler that way? What do you have to fear? lack of understanding? Misplaced responsibility in sharing information? If you are just telling the truth as it has been relayed to you, how then do things things fall upon YOUR hands? If the truth causes negative things to happen, at least it happened because of the truth as you know it. Wouldn't it be worse to for something negative to happen because of a fear of clarifying what you know as the simple truth?

Whose angels? What the heck are you talking about?
I'm not going to get offended because someone is describing an experience to me. On the other hand I might if you insisted that your interpretation of it was negative towards me and you touted it as fact... but I don't see you doing that so...
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In a humans life he or she is dealt 13 angels some very good some very terrific and some that are more special then others.
When information is told to some humans ,there angels are not powerful enough to close the wave of information that transmits to the other side.
To make this short, information is dangerous to a human if his /hers angels are not strong enough to protect them from the other side.
Say for instance a person that only has 4 angels left is told a secret ,if there angels are not strong enough to protect them from that secret.. well, the secret dies with that person very quick.
The other side preys on the ‘weak force’ that surrounds humans.
Point blank…you just don’t ever want them to notice your on this earth unless you have all your angels behind you.


Ok...a person only has 4 angels left is told a secret... to the person or the angels? I'm assuming you mean to the angels.

If so, then are you talking to me or talking to my angels?... because if you are talking to me, won't the angels find out anyway? If you are talking to only the angels so that they might protect a secret from me, then maybe you should not even begin to type it here.


What I believe is nothing is stronger than the truth. It may be critical at a point in time to keep a secret and for those involved to be careful with that secret, but even a secret is a truth known but only to some. Telling a secret is a risk. Many things you do in life is a risk. Life is made of risks and secrets will ultimately be revealed... even if it takes a long long time... but not to all in many cases, but I believe even the most obscure secret lost in the depths of time can be found if the circumstances are right. It's circumstantial as to whether a truth NEEDS to be revealed as a secret...right now, maybe later or an attempt at never, or if it should be even if it doesn't need to be, such as if you just feel like sharing a secret... ie, assessing the risks.

The only ones who can do that are the ones who already know the secret, which is why it's pointless to ever ask a person if they can keep a secret. It makes more sense to ask them if they even want to know the secret and then tell them they had better keep it a secret and first judge for yourself as best you can if they are even capable.... or their angels.
... and you should never ever EVER allude to a secret to someone that you do not intend to tell.
If you do, you've already made your decision and might as well go ahead and tell the secret or if you have second thoughts and change your mind about telling a secret, said person might become reckless in trying to find the secret they now know exists.
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posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 03:12 AM
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I guess if it meant something to you and gave you a sense that there is a Godly entity, then it makes sense that it was making you aware and if your feelings have changed about a higher power, then perhaps this was the very purpose of the dream... to help guide you.



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 03:14 AM
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Pinhead is the hottest fictional demon ever. Just saying.
It's quite heavenly to hear him speak.



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 03:17 AM
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Originally posted by laiguana
Pinhead is the hottest fictional demon ever. Just saying.
It's quite heavenly to hear him speak.




I was watching a clip a while back and was noticing he does have a strange demonic allure, doesn't he?
He's a pretty snazzy dresser as well.



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 03:20 AM
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Originally posted by Wyn Hawks
...hell is burying your child... hell is delivering a grandchild that cant possibly survive... hell is telling your mother no when she asks for a pill that will make her go to sleep and never wake up...


...heaven is soft rain falling on a tin roof... the hoots of an owl in the middle of the night... driving nowhere in particular, just because i can... a tall handsome man that can play the mandolin... the smell of home made bread... the cackle of a happy baby... unlimited chocolate...

DANG!,thats awful,i hope none of what you said had to deal with you.



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 03:22 AM
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Ok...a person only has 4 angels left is told a secret... to the person or the angels? I'm assuming you mean to the angels.

If so, then are you talking to me or talking to my angels?... because if you are talking to me, won't the angels find out anyway? If you are talking to only the angels so that they might protect a secret from me, then maybe you should not even begin to type it here.

What I believe is nothing is stronger than the truth. It may be critical at a point in time to keep a secret and for those involved to be careful with that secret, but even a secret is a truth known but only to some. Telling a secret is a risk. Many things you do in life is a risk. Life is made of risks and secrets will ultimately be revealed... even if it takes a long long time... but not to all in many cases, but I believe even the most obscure secret lost in the depths of time can be found if the circumstances are right. It's circumstantial as to whether a truth NEEDS to be revealed as a secret...right now, maybe later or an attempt at never, or if it should be even if it doesn't need to be, such as if you just feel like sharing a secret... ie, assessing the risks.

The only ones who can do that are the ones who already know the secret, which is why it's pointless to ever ask a person if they can keep a secret. It makes more sense to ask them if they even want to know the secret and then tell them they had better keep it a secret and first judge for yourself as best you can if they are even capable.... or their angels.
... and you should never ever EVER allude to a secret to someone that you do not intend to tell.
If you do, you've already made your decision and might as well go ahead and tell the secret or if you have second thoughts and change your mind about telling a secret, said person might become reckless in trying to find the secret they now know exists.

Guess your right



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 03:26 AM
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Originally posted by Immortalgemini527
reply to post by ChaosMagician
 
Guess your right



Ok, so go ahead and cough up your secret.

just kidding.

Seriously? My angels already know.

haha, just kidding again.

ok, I'll stop.



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 03:28 AM
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Originally posted by amc621
reply to post by Immortalgemini527
 


heaven would be like all the BSers on this site coming clean, hell is having to read over and over again BS post about abdutions, empaths,


yea ,i wish i was one of the bs,it seems every thing i predicted is coming true.guess thats why im up at 4;27 in the morning..BOY!



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 03:29 AM
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Originally posted by ChaosMagician

Originally posted by Immortalgemini527
reply to post by ChaosMagician
 
Guess your right



Ok, so go ahead and cough up your secret.

just kidding.

Seriously? My angels already know.

haha, just kidding again.

ok, I'll stop.


No your not kidding, your angels do know you have alot of happy angels ...why?



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 03:30 AM
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reply to post by laiguana
 

I wonder what makes pinhead so cool?



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 04:18 AM
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Originally posted by Immortalgemini527

Originally posted by ChaosMagician

Originally posted by Immortalgemini527
reply to post by ChaosMagician
 
Guess your right



Ok, so go ahead and cough up your secret.

just kidding.

Seriously? My angels already know.

haha, just kidding again.

ok, I'll stop.


No your not kidding, your angels do know you have alot of happy angels ...why?



Why do I have happy angels?
... not too sure about that.

I can tell you in my life I have been miserable. Lately I have been much much happier. Even in the last 2 days of being a tad cranky, especially yesterday... I'm still happier than I usually am... not that I have always been depressed exactly or always hopeless feeling, "clinically" I guess... but I have been greatly confused, especially by the behavior of others... and that makes me angry and my anger makes me sad.

Lately I feel that a lot answers started coming back to me. Pieces of a strange puzzle started falling into place. I started sort of realizing things about myself and it made me feel sort of "centered" in a way that before were just fleeting moments despite self realizations, it's important to feel a sense of belonging in the world you happen to be attached to. This made me feel more calm than I can remember feeling in a long time. Not just a calm mood, because I still have gotten angry and upset since this all started happening, but a general underlying calm that keeps anger and being upset from lingering.
Perhaps I've fooled myself somehow, perhaps the old ego is playing tricks because it likes to do that sometimes with everyone I think, no matter how hard to try to keep clarity... but whatever the case may be, I'm very reluctant to let go of it. In the back of my mind there is a fear that I will never find all the answers and my desire to have those answers will be discarded and forgotten and I try to avoid that thought like a plague. I have a deep fear that those who have shown me things are not completely genuine in their intentions but I try to dispel the doubt because it is important to me. It seems to be one of the most important things I have ever known in my life... to be remembered, to be found and to be watched over.



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 04:23 AM
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Originally posted by Immortalgemini527
reply to post by laiguana
 

I wonder what makes pinhead so cool?



He makes a lot of good "points"....kidding


He seems to be very sharp?


No, actually...his appearance is pretty striking from what I've seen. I've never had the opportunity to watch all those movies.



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 04:29 AM
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Originally posted by ChaosMagician

Originally posted by Immortalgemini527

Originally posted by ChaosMagician

Originally posted by Immortalgemini527
reply to post by ChaosMagician
 
Guess your right



Ok, so go ahead and cough up your secret.

just kidding.

Seriously? My angels already know.

haha, just kidding again.

ok, I'll stop.


No your not kidding, your angels do know you have alot of happy angels ...why?



Why do I have happy angels?
... not too sure about that.

I can tell you in my life I have been miserable. Lately I have been much much happier. Even in the last 2 days of being a tad cranky, especially yesterday... I'm still happier than I usually am... not that I have always been depressed exactly or always hopeless feeling, "clinically" I guess... but I have been greatly confused, especially by the behavior of others... and that makes me angry and my anger makes me sad.

Lately I feel that a lot answers started coming back to me. Pieces of a strange puzzle started falling into place. I started sort of realizing things about myself and it made me feel sort of "centered" in a way that before were just fleeting moments despite self realizations, it's important to feel a sense of belonging in the world you happen to be attached to. This made me feel more calm than I can remember feeling in a long time. Not just a calm mood, because I still have gotten angry and upset since this all started happening, but a general underlying calm that keeps anger and being upset from lingering.
Perhaps I've fooled myself somehow, perhaps the old ego is playing tricks because it likes to do that sometimes with everyone I think, no matter how hard to try to keep clarity... but whatever the case may be, I'm very reluctant to let go of it. In the back of my mind there is a fear that I will never find all the answers and my desire to have those answers will be discarded and forgotten and I try to avoid that thought like a plague. I have a deep fear that those who have shown me things are not completely genuine in their intentions but I try to dispel the doubt because it is important to me. It seems to be one of the most important things I have ever known in my life... to be remembered, to be found and to be watched over.



Lately I feel that a lot answers started coming back to me > like what?

Pieces of a strange puzzle started falling into place.> interesting?

I'm still happier than I usually am> lol,because your angels are happy ,do you have a birth day coming up soon ?

because I still have gotten angry and upset since this all started happening> huh,explain?

I have a deep fear that those who have shown me things are not completely genuine >
whats going on..really?





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posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 05:38 AM
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Here is heaven


Here is hell



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 05:58 AM
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Originally posted by Immortalgemini527

Originally posted by ChaosMagician

Originally posted by Immortalgemini527

Originally posted by ChaosMagician

Originally posted by Immortalgemini527
reply to post by ChaosMagician
 
Guess your right



Ok, so go ahead and cough up your secret.

just kidding.

Seriously? My angels already know.

haha, just kidding again.

ok, I'll stop.


No your not kidding, your angels do know you have alot of happy angels ...why?



Why do I have happy angels?
... not too sure about that.

I can tell you in my life I have been miserable. Lately I have been much much happier. Even in the last 2 days of being a tad cranky, especially yesterday... I'm still happier than I usually am... not that I have always been depressed exactly or always hopeless feeling, "clinically" I guess... but I have been greatly confused, especially by the behavior of others... and that makes me angry and my anger makes me sad.

Lately I feel that a lot answers started coming back to me. Pieces of a strange puzzle started falling into place. I started sort of realizing things about myself and it made me feel sort of "centered" in a way that before were just fleeting moments despite self realizations, it's important to feel a sense of belonging in the world you happen to be attached to. This made me feel more calm than I can remember feeling in a long time. Not just a calm mood, because I still have gotten angry and upset since this all started happening, but a general underlying calm that keeps anger and being upset from lingering.
Perhaps I've fooled myself somehow, perhaps the old ego is playing tricks because it likes to do that sometimes with everyone I think, no matter how hard to try to keep clarity... but whatever the case may be, I'm very reluctant to let go of it. In the back of my mind there is a fear that I will never find all the answers and my desire to have those answers will be discarded and forgotten and I try to avoid that thought like a plague. I have a deep fear that those who have shown me things are not completely genuine in their intentions but I try to dispel the doubt because it is important to me. It seems to be one of the most important things I have ever known in my life... to be remembered, to be found and to be watched over.



Lately I feel that a lot answers started coming back to me > like what?

Pieces of a strange puzzle started falling into place.> interesting?

I'm still happier than I usually am> lol,because your angels are happy ,do you have a birth day coming up soon ?

because I still have gotten angry and upset since this all started happening> huh,explain?

I have a deep fear that those who have shown me things are not completely genuine >
whats going on..really?





edit on 27-11-2010 by Immortalgemini527 because: (no reason given)


well, the easiest thing among those questions to explain is the the cranky part, things in life annoy me, people annoy me. I have a short fuse and little patience despite that I consider myself primarily very thoughtful, polite, considerate and ultimately very hopeful. I just don't have a lot of patience for certain annoyance that could easily be filtered by the character of others...and this adds to my irritation. there is plenty of real BS to deal with, no need to add to the pile.
When i'm sad, I tend to get very sad if I'm not careful. When I lose a little bit of general hope, sometimes it all seems to start crashing down... a domino affect and rather than cauterize it and numb it, I tend to just watch it all fall. Not that the foundation of everything I believe is built on frivolous things but that in my mind sometimes it becomes open to the possibility that the foundation itself, everything... never really existed in the first place and my perception is just a fool hanging by a thread... a deluded self in an empty dark world that just became aware of this.
I have had a few tragic things happen in my life but nothing to explain these sensations that have come over me. I no longer try to because there are a lot of things I can't explain. I know there are others out there who suffer greatly. Maybe in some way, I choose to feel these things at times... but it's really not helping anyone, especially not me... or maybe it has in some weird obscure way, set an example of something for others to witness and try to understand. It doesn't help me be productive... but it has happened and I can't deny that I have struggled with such things. I can't explain many of the things I've experienced and to be confused about so much is not good.

I can actually handle some pretty trying issues. I can accept some harsh realities. I can deal with negative things concerning myself. what I have a hard time dealing with is *other people*... not all other people, just many. I have been at my wits end trying to understand the self appointed importance that some see themselves with.
It has made me feel as though i'm literally about to burst out my skin gazing into the eyes of other people at times trying to figure out what the hell is going through tee-ninsy brains. It has put me into hysterics... just little things in heated conversation that make me aware that I'm being controlled and it has flown all over me like a wave of belligerent nonsense. I have gotten better with that. I have learned that it's something about false energy and I need to get away from it. This world is pretty full of nonsense. I know that despite my own impulses it's important to work around for the sake of those who uphold loftier concepts.

to explain answers that have come back to me would require me describing a lot of events that have taken place in my life and many of them are personal and I would just rather not go into all those things right now. I tend to talk about them here and there... around.

I can't tell you about the bigger picture either because even though pieces started coming together, I'm not completely finished putting it together... and honestly, I can't. That is something I have to have assistance with and I am trying to be as patient as I can be with that because I know that I DON'T know all the circumstances that could be a factor...and I certainly don't see myself as the most important thing in the world but a lack of getting answers sometimes wants to dance a little carelessly on my faith and pick and poke at my hope.

no, I do not have a birthday and don't like birthdays anyway.

Birthdays are good for those who like getting older.

As far as my fears are concerned... I know people aren't perfect, Their intentions are not always pure as the driven snow. There is a dark side to life. Part of the dark side of life is to be embraced by one's own dark side... and we all have them. It's a mistake to try to completely suppress that. It's unhealthy. The point is to not get too carried away with the dark side of life. Some things are forgivable, some things are not. it's all very circumstantial. Despite me wanting to put faith into certain ideas, I still want the truth about things that have happened to me and the chance to process it on my own... I believe none of my equals should even consider trying to shape what I will accept in life. How do others gauge such a things and not expect error after error?

Would you want a housemate to bury garbage in your yard? No, because not only do you still have to get rid of it because you can still smell it, but now you have to dig it out. I get the impression a lot of things lately are being buried... and things will never go anywhere like that. "It IS what it IS" No point in trying to say it's anything else. One thing I hate doing is trying to dig the truth out of a reluctant person but have done it till I'm blue in the face and will probably do so again.
I do have fears... there *are* limits, but what I'm able to accept for myself, only I can be the judge of that. it's pointless for anyone else to try to predict.. and the truth can't be hid forever. As a matter of fact, the more it's hidden the worse it seems in the end. I know I'm not the only one with fears... I can clearly tell, but I can't tell you who else has fears and for exactly what reasons or what they think they are wagering over... there are certain filters I simply can't see through and this only drags it out... despite I'm in no place to be demanding... and I'm not. Just pointing a few things I see as fact about the old "covering your ass" routine. It's important for people to recognize when they are just running in circles.

It's hard to get answers sometimes, it's a process and in waiting... for what could be forever, it can make you think all sorts of things... good things, bad things. What's real, what's not?...it's best sometimes to cut to the chase and let it be good or let it be bad... just let it be what it is. It's important to know your area of control and when it comes to how others process the truth, people often have very little control. You can't shape a truth into something else. If we could, nothing bad would ever be.

What I fear is the truth... and it's also what I seek the most and that's not going to change. Ever.
I chose to have faith that regardless of what I find, it will not break my spirit. Regardless of the issue.
We live in a world that tries to hide and shape the truth. How can you believe in a anything if you let that get inside of you? If you let that make you stop looking for the truth or make you so afraid of the truth you are scared to face it or let yourself become like the world, the absence of truth?
I believe that if you don't stop fighting for the truth in a world of lies, regardless of what happens, regardless of who you are or what you have been through or what you have done in your life, you can rise above it.

Often our greatest fears are centered around what we love, what we find most important and most critical.

I feel that in myself. I've seen it in others.
As for my personal experiences, I cannot paint the big picture for you... it's actually not my place to do so at this point. I wish it were and I wish I could. I sit here waiting patiently for the day that I will see the rest of the pieces. until then, it's out of my hands and there is no clear picture.

All I can tell you is what I've already said. Sometimes you just can't put how you feel into words, but I sense it and to me it is important and personally, it means a lot.



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 06:01 AM
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Originally posted by FIFIGI
Here is heaven




Jesus christ I need to go to bed and stop goofing off online.
Too funny though.



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 06:13 AM
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Putting religion aside for a second, my Heaven would be die Happy. My Hell would be to die alone. Right now, I'm somewhere in-between, and am actively trying to find ways to correct it.



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 07:52 AM
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I like this thread. So, here it goes.

I do not believe in a heaven or hell like most religious people do. I feel as humans with a spirit we create our own hell and heaven......or good and bad situations and consequences. I believe in a spiritual realm, but that is about as far as it goes on a spiritual level. And good and evil.

The worse case scenario is someone who is stuck in the sinful ways and keeps having karma bite them in the butt. One who does not learn from doing harmful things will have it come back on them sometime. And the same goes for good things. If you treat people right, karma will pay you back in a good way.

As for passing to the spiritual world. Of course there are good and bad there as well. I may be a bit of a crazy dude. But I do treat people well. And I hope that holds back my encounters with the darker side after we pass and start the REAL world!

A very good topic. And I look forward to other peoples answers on this.



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 08:28 AM
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if their is a heaven and hell, i feel the reality that where living right now on this planet is without a shadow of a doubt hell.



posted on Nov, 27 2010 @ 08:33 AM
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Remember we live in hell, staring towards heaven....kx




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