Originally posted by madmanacrosswater
Apparently, you have fallen into the trap that is being preached by such "religious" people as Pat Robertson, et al.
It's not a trap btw, but thats what they would want you to think... Once you start learning on your own without having outside influence, you might
understand, but until then, I doubt you ever will.
You say there is nothing wrong with government except the politicians? That is an oxymoron. Government is politicians.
Actually that's not an oxymoron, government is made up of politicians, your right, and politicians these days are sleeze bags and will side with and
promote any idea if they get a few bucks in their pockets.
Smart enought to read behind the lines? What lines? What is between those lines?
Apparantly you missed it... I just told you what was between the lines, and it totally blew over your head.
Apparently, you are of the belief if you don't believe in "my God" you don't believe in God. We all have the same God, the allknowing
Exactly, there is no "my god" God is everyone's God, whether people want to pay attention to him or not is their choice, however there will
reparations, and thats not something I just pulled out of my ass, it's something I learned on my own while reading and studying.. I'm not an expert
but I get the basic ideology and message that everyone's "god" has put out for us to understand... It's not "my " god.. If you look it in the
bible, it clearly states that if you are a jw, or a king henry follower type you are in an occult, and not listening to the message of "god". People
wil make up their own god, but scripture is the oldest message, new age and jw are recent religions, they picked and chose which messages to take take
out of the bible, paraphrase it, and to mold it into whatever they want "their" message to be.
So yes, there is an all knowing creator, and if you truly believed in that like I do then you would be doing more research on that, and trust me,
it's far from boring...
The only places the ACLU wants crosses, and mangers taken down is on government property. Again, I don't want my child to eventually having the
government tell him or her what religion to follow.
The government NEVER EVER told children what religion to believe, however, the secularists are telling the children there is no god and to follow
their beliefs, and that is occult. Sorry to say it but it's godless, and you just contradicted yourself, read your above statements.
Tell me who exactly is trying to shut down the "Christian foundation"?
Many secularist groups... Including the ACLU.
You claim these people are "Creating their own religion and people are swallowing it". You claim that religion has made its way into
politics. This I cannot disagree on. Pat Robertson's show is a perfect example. He is hardly being the true Christian that he claims he is.
I don't even know who pat robertson is... And if you knew anything about the word... Secularists have """" A cause, principle, or activity
pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion"""". That is one definition of religion out of 4.
I'm sorry but politicians are now falling into secularist ideologies.. Mainly liberals. And I haven't seen any discredit secularist ideologies, but
I have seen many discredit "everybody's god". And if you think it hasn't been brough into politics your sorely mistaken my friend. There are
many shyster's out there in all religions including secularism, pat robertson maybe one, I don't know never seen his show. But you can't discredit
god or jesus christ because there are many ninnies out there... Well you can, freewill, my bad.
It says in the Bible that we must have government does it not? Government is politicians.
There is a difference between corrupt government and a government under god, there was 12 commandments put out out by god so that people could govern
themselves accordingly and thus have a utopian life to live ... There would be lies, rape, murder, coveting, ect ect, a people's government is full
of corruption, control problems, personality problems, ect, ect, it says in the bible also that people should never follow people for these exact
reasons which is why said under god, because he says he is the truth, and doesn't lie, ect. .. That's the difference.
Are you being a true Christian in judging others for what they believe.
I just started my christian life, and it is said to not judge people, and it also says to help those who are godless, so i am. I'm not FORCING any
belief system just educating you on what I know, unlike secularists who actually are trying to push their beliefs on the mases by descrediting God as
a made up thing... And yes they are really trying to get the Country to believe that.
And they are the ones who are judging, and full of hate speech, and full of shanannigan's for that matter... The bible also states that anyone who is
like that is part of satan's work, he is a master manipulator, ect... He is tricky, and has many people working for him without them even knowing
So it is said to help those who don't know, not force anything, just show them the way, it's their choice... Nobody gets raped or murdered if they
don't believe like Islam/taliban...
There are extremists in every religion, but that shouldn't discredit the man upstairs.
Do you not believe that evolution and creation work hand in hand? The universe is still evolving and creating everyday as it continues it's
I just want to know, who created the universe? who made evolution ? The answer is found in Gensis, not in some secularist organizations mind, not in
some scientist who way back when created a formula from his own mind.
It's your choice if you want to think big or small.. But the answer is found in the o.t...
Do you not realize this is all an illusion? The keyboard you type on, yourself, everything around you is an illusion held together by the
power and energy of God?
Explain that to me so I understand what exactly your saying...
Jesus said to go with him into the kingdom of God. He never preached hate. Do you not realize reading the words of Christ that he was
probably the biggest "liberal" around. That we should all work together, take care of each other, and pass God's love on?
I don't think Jesus was a liberal, liberals don't know right from wrong, Jesus had an ethical base, you know, do unto other as you would like have
done unto you, treat people the way you would like to be treated, don't judge people because you are not perfect yourself, believe in those sort of
things because he is the truth.. I don't think liberals and Jesus have much in common, liberals have double standards and contradict themselves time
and time again without even knowing it, and if they get busted they try and do the little tap dance and back peddling performance that they think
If Jesus was to return today he would be appalled at what has happened to his teachings.
He is coming, and I think he would be appalled at many people who haven't even listened to his teachings after he put them out there to help people
understand the first time... History does repeat itself.. However I think God's had enough of people's shananigan's, and will take only those who
have plugged into him the way it says to in the bible... Not in some new age ideology that picks and chooses what gods beliefs and expectations of us
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