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Originally posted by truthiron
Would God punish one for just a few years of sin for eternity? The answer is an emphatic no and His Word proves it. I've known so many that accuse God of unjust punishment that I wanted to make this clear.
Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
( That eternal fire is Yahweh, and He is a “consuming fire” and keep in mind consuming! )
Heb 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.
Re 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Strong's Greek Dictionary, meaning of ever and ever
Search for G5550 in KJVSL
cronoV chronos khron'-os
of uncertain derivation; a space of time (in general, and thus properly distinguished from 2540, which designates a fixed or special occasion; and from 165, which denotes a particular period) or interval; by extension, an individual opportunity; by implication, delay:--+ years old, season, space, (X often-)time(-s), (a) while. See Greek 2540
(I submit it is the amount of time allotted each for the damage they’ve done, cause of lost soles etc., Satan being the greatest destroyer.)
Re 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
( this is the end of death and hell, they are no more, they are consumed!)
(Here now is Satan’s end)
Eze 28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
If Satan is reduced to ashes, how about the rest, the same for sure.
Mal 4:1 ¶ For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
Mal 4:2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
Mal 4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.
Mt 3:12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.
Heb 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.
(He is the eternal fire that consumes, devours the wicked but is a shelter for the righteous)
Ps 21:9 Thou shalt make them as a fiery oven in the time of thine anger: the LORD shall swallow them up in his wrath, and the fire shall devour them.
Na 1:9 What do ye imagine against the LORD? he will make an utter end: affliction shall not rise up the second time
Evil and righteousness connot dwell together is why He must make an end.
2Co 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
Heaven cannot be a mix of those.
There is no God, there are however millions of people who believe in a creator without any reason to apart from having "faith"
I once had faith that the Force was real, Until I found out it was a product of another man's imagination...funny how similar that is to organised religion.
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by truthiron
Interesting, I wasn't aware Jesus was lying. He taught more about a literal, eternal, painful damnation in literal flames more than any person in scripture.
Jesus being the "Word" those statements, "verses" actually came forth from Him to the prophets. Were you referring to verses He stated like the following?
Lu 12:49 I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?
Joh 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
Satan started the thing of disobedience which originated "hell" grave, death and it looks like Jesus is still saying "Burned", Past tense in verse above. Yes Jesus made cutting statements and for good reason in each case. He who is the Truth is not lying.
Could you ever confess God is righteous if He tortured one for eternity for a few years of disobedience? Compared to eternity our few years are not even a breath in comparison. Solidly I refute eternal hell fire.