posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 08:31 PM
Originally posted by babybunnies
Originally posted by Lil Drummerboy
I will place my bets on nothing happening
Particularly when it is one of the largest shopping seasons of the year.
Then you're a moron. If you're buying ANYTHING this holiday season without paying CASH you're an idiot.
Don't go into debt for Christmas shopping for stuff that most people can do without. All the smart money is saying that in 2010-2011 you should do
everything you can to make sure you don't have any debt.
After all, it's not like most people who celebrate Christmas are actually Christians or celebrate it for what it originally stood for. I would
estimate that in well over 90% of American homes, even in those who claim to be Christian, the baby Jesus is hardly mentioned on Christmas Day.
I'm atheist, and I don't celebrate Christmas. To call it a "celebration of family" is hypocritical, especially if you're non Christian.
It amuses me the number of people who claim to be atheist, but then jump all over the Christmas holidays every year.
I'm not really saying Bah Humbug, I'm just saying that if you're a true atheist, then the most hypocritical thing you can do all year is celebrate
Christmas, the celebration of the Birth of the Son of God.
I'm also not African-American, but to me, Kwanza makes so much more sense as a celebration of family and friends.
First, what does any of this have to do with the video, Second, Jesus, whether you believe in him or not was not. born on Christmas. Its original
meaning was to celebrate Satunalia.
Saturnalia became one of the most popular Roman festivals. It was marked by tomfoolery and reversal of social roles, in which slaves and masters
ostensibly switched places, with humorous results.
Saturnalia was introduced around 217 BC to raise citizen morale after a crushing military defeat. Originally celebrated for a day, on December 17,
its popularity saw it grow until it became a week long extravaganza, ending on the 23rd. Efforts to shorten the celebration were unsuccessful.
Augustus tried to reduce it to three days, and Caligula to five. These attempts caused for uproars and revolts among the Roman citizens.
Saturnalia involved the conventional sacrifices, a couch (lectisternium) set out in front of the temple of Saturn and the untying of the ropes that
bound the statue of Saturn during the rest of the year. A Saturnalicius princeps was elected master of ceremonies for the proceedings. Besides the
public rites there were a series of holidays and customs celebrated privately. The celebrations included a school holiday, the making and giving of
small presents (saturnalia et sigillaricia) and a special market (sigillaria). Gambling was allowed for all, even slaves; however, although it was
officially condoned only during this period, one should not assume that it was rare or much remarked upon during the rest of the year. It was a time
to eat, drink, and be merry. The toga was not worn, but rather the synthesis, i.e. colorful, informal "dinner clothes"; and the pileus (freedman's
hat) was worn by everyone. Slaves were exempt from punishment, and treated their masters with (a pretense of) disrespect. The slaves celebrated a
banquet: before, with, or served by the masters. Yet the reversal of the social order was mostly superficial; the banquet, for example, would often be
prepared by the slaves, and they would prepare their masters' dinner as well. It was license within careful boundaries; it reversed the social order
without subverting it.