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Originally posted by unknown32
God is a loving GOD. He will not do anything to harm us, its our choices in our own free will that harm us.
Originally posted by JR MacBeth
reply to post by autowrench
Great post, oh how nice it might be if Christians, or Jews, or Muslims actually read their scriptures!
Makes me think of John Lennon, "Imagine"...Sadly, that's all we can do, because billions of people on this planet
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace
I don't think Lennon was asking them to read their scriptures in 'Imagine'. In fact he was dreaming of a world devoid of religion.
But the fear is almost universally denied by
Christians. They cannot admit this fear to themselves for to admit it is to
be unsure of one's salvation, a sin. If it weren't for biblical fear the
fantastic and unreal hope would soon loose its ability to create an emotional
fix. Like any addiction, it's not so much that one feels better with the drug
than that one feels terrible without it.
Sadly, I have yet to meet a practising Christian who has done this, and it makes me wonder.....is this why I was told as a child never to question the Word of God?
Well, I did question, in fact, I question everything.
Originally posted by Arrowmancer
I'd like to take a moment to address both the posters in this thread and the OP.
Firstly, OP, you're coming off as a lunatic one way or the other. Either you're insane and have had an 'episode', or your are COMPLETELY LEGIT, a messenger of God, and have decided to post your knowledge in a world wide forum of the hardest critics on Earth with the expectation that we'd take your information to heart immediately.
I know that some of the posts in your thread have been hard-hammering and there have been a few issues where the decorum requirements have been violated, but you can't take it personally. Everyone here has their own knowledge to share. Not every one is going to fall in line and attempt to grasp your ideas.
I appreciate the original post greatly, as this thread has been entertaining. Some of us have been accused of judging you, and that is an accurate accusation. We all judge others in one form or another. I couldn't make a lot of sense out of what you originally wrote and you've done little to clarify it. You didn't want us thinking you were mad, but haven't exactly gone out of your way to sway us to the contrary. I was very much hoping you would do exactly that. If you were an angel, or messenger of God, or wired differently than the rest of us, it's a pretty logical assumption that you aren't going to make much sense. So to some degree, I take what you have said as a want-to-be believer.
To the responders in this thread. Don't call someone nuts if you don't have a legitimate reason to do so, and if you DO call them nuts, at least be polite about it. For those of you calling for the thread to be locked.... Why? This site is for entertainment. If this thread has risen to the top of the board, killing it would kind of defy the function of the site. We're interested. We're posting. And I've seen a few folks I respect from OTHER fields in this one. This gives us a place to cross over into common territory and discuss things we wouldn't normally weigh in on. And to those of you judging the rest of us for being, ironically, judgmental... WHY?! It is the nature of Man to judge. We weigh ourselves against the words, actions, and ideas of others. We find commonalities and differences in everything about ourselves and either rebuke each other for them, or celebrate each other for them. Either way, if we didn't judge each other and judge ourselves against others, what would we be? Trees with legs and opposable thumbs.
I can understand provoking the Original Poster. If we don't challenge the ideas he puts forth, there's really no point of calling this a Conspiracy forum. Even religion can be neatly tucked under the umbrella of Conspiracy. I've actually seen some incredibly insightful posts both for and against the original post and have starred them. I've also flagged this thread because I'd like other people to weigh in on it. Given the number of responses, I'm shocked at the appalling lack of flags and stars. If the thread interests you enough to post 11 pages worth of responses, wouldn't it be a good idea to bring other's attention here to enjoy what you have?
OP: Good on you for posting up. I'm sorry your second post didn't get as much attention and I'd look forward to hearing more from you. Your posts are consistent with other posts in different threads, and consistency is lacking on ATS at times. I had hoped you would post more details about your situation and ours and the yummy goodness that is the FRESH and NEW. Yes, we get a lot of would-be prophets here, but rarely do we get anyone this far 'out-there'. People are correcting your spelling (which even I am wont to do...), they are correcting your Biblical knowledge, and challenging your stances. Is it possible that those who are challenging your Biblical knowledge have faults in their own information? Are we misinformed? Your response somewhere around page 9 says basically "Well, I've said what I'm gonna... good luck to you all." Perhaps you can explain that? Why are you bailing on this thread without rising to the the occassion? You posted in good faith. A great number of people here did as well. Don't let the naysayers turn you off. Star the posts you like, respond to them. Also, you said we'd be seeing massive changes in the Earth as if we weren't already seeing them. Are you expecting something more drastic?
POSTERS: Thanks for joining us! I've really enjoyed this thread. If you don't like it, don't read it, don't subscribe to it and certainly don't post in it. If you DO, remain with the OP and debate as ATSers are expected to.